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Homme

Homme

Los Angeles, CA
January 2009

JAN 08, 2009 02:05 PM

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

JAN 08, 2009 02:50 PM

If you stop talking about someone, eventually they go away.

minimalism

minimalism

Argentina
OLD SKOOL

JAN 08, 2009 03:01 PM

I don't want her to go away. Democrats for Sarah Palin 2012!!!!

Homme

Homme

Los Angeles, CA
January 2009

JAN 08, 2009 03:17 PM

minimalism said:
I don't want her to go away. Democrats for Sarah Palin 2012!!!!



Exactly. This person is beautiful. biggrin

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

JAN 08, 2009 03:30 PM

Nine solid minutes of the softest of softball set-ups, and she still manages to reveal the depths of her ignorance and her utterly cracked perspective.

minimalism

minimalism

Argentina
OLD SKOOL

JAN 08, 2009 03:39 PM

Hey Sarah, Do you want some cheese with that whine?

GrayRains

GrayRains

Twin Lake, MI
January 2008

JAN 08, 2009 05:16 PM

I love how she talks about a double standard, it makes me giggle.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JAN 08, 2009 06:23 PM

minimalism said:
I don't want her to go away. Democrats for Sarah Palin 2012!!!!


i don't. Palin is quite popular with conservatives. don't mistake a badly-run campaign for a sea change.

GrayRains

GrayRains

Twin Lake, MI
January 2008

JAN 09, 2009 07:04 AM

motorfirebox said:

minimalism said:
I don't want her to go away. Democrats for Sarah Palin 2012!!!!


i don't. Palin is quite popular with conservatives. don't mistake a badly-run campaign for a sea change.



Yeah, she was obviously "experimenting" with how to run her own bid for the White House next time.

cpkz

cpkz

Portland, OR
September 2006

JAN 09, 2009 07:58 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28573074/?GT1=43001 has the story here.

When did we start accepting as hard news sources bloggers, anonymous bloggers especially? It's a sad state of affairs in the world of the media today, mainstream media especially, that they're going to rely on bloggers, anonymous bloggers, for their hard news information."



My first thing I think is...wasn't it the anonymous Bloggers that were giving huge smear campaigns to Obama for being a Muslim? Even up until election day I heard people saying Obama was a Muslim terrorist, citing Fox News Blogs as there evidence.

I also don't remember any of the attacks she's talking about being in the "Hard News" either. I remember her unmarried daughter's pregnancy being brought up in the news, but I feel that was kind of important. To me, it showed some hypocrisy in her stances. Maybe my memory is muddled after I tried to purge her from my thinking and my bias favoring Obama, but I don't remember any of the other BS she mentioned being on 6'o'clock news or whatever.

Accuser

Accuser

Scottsdale, AZ
October 2006

JAN 09, 2009 08:08 AM

Yeah, I stopped watching as soon as she said that people were accusing her of lying about her pregnancy with Trigg.

Uh, no. A couple of blogs said, "Alright, we found something that may or may not be true. Here's what it is. We're checking it out further to be absolutely certain before we really go off on it." And it turned out not to be true.

Y'know, that's okay. People are allowed to suspect things and then say, "I suspect this." And when the facts are revealed, they're supposed to say, "Oh, okay. I was wrong." That's what happened with that whole Trigg thing. It's also what happened with Obama's birth certificate. Except that the conservatives skipped that second step in admitting that they were wrong.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

JAN 09, 2009 08:16 AM

motorfirebox said:

minimalism said:
I don't want her to go away. Democrats for Sarah Palin 2012!!!!


i don't. Palin is quite popular with conservatives. don't mistake a badly-run campaign for a sea change.



For me it's not so much that I want Sarah "Punchline" Palin to run in 2012 as I want whoever the GOP candidate is to run on the same "The liberal media is all biased and voters are all stupid since that's why Barack Hussein Obama won in 2008" campaign strategy that failed so spectacularly.

I mean, John McCain used to be a media darling. He used to invite reporters over to his ranch for big ol' bar-b-q's and get the kind of kid glove treatment from "the liberal media" that Obama only received in the fever dreams of right-wing bloggers.

But then once his poll numbers dipped and he had to defend Palin's rank incompetence his campaign went into default conservative "That liberal media's out to get me!" shtick that dates back to fucking Nixon.

Adroitbeing

Adroitbeing

I'm lost
September 2003

JAN 09, 2009 08:59 AM

I'm sorry, but she accepts an interview with "blogger" John Ziegler who Fox describes as an "Internet reporter" whatever and uses the opportunity to dismiss the rest of the nation's press. Does she expect this behavior to translate into a supportive media community in the future?

Sad commentary that Palin's swan song takes place with a largely disregarded "internet reporter." Desperation is a foul perfume.


motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JAN 09, 2009 12:45 PM

Uncognitive said:
For me it's not so much that I want Sarah "Punchline" Palin to run in 2012 as I want whoever the GOP candidate is to run on the same "The liberal media is all biased and voters are all stupid since that's why Barack Hussein Obama won in 2008" campaign strategy that failed so spectacularly.

I mean, John McCain used to be a media darling. He used to invite reporters over to his ranch for big ol' bar-b-q's and get the kind of kid glove treatment from "the liberal media" that Obama only received in the fever dreams of right-wing bloggers.

But then once his poll numbers dipped and he had to defend Palin's rank incompetence his campaign went into default conservative "That liberal media's out to get me!" shtick that dates back to fucking Nixon.


well, again, that tactic made her very popular with a certain portion of the populace. not a big enough portion to carry the election, obviously, but it's not like she was at all universally condemned for it. it seems to me that she's got that portion of the vote pretty much in the bag, which means she's fairly free to put on a display of moderation that may very well pull in a large chunk of moderate-conservative voters. Sarah Palin and the far right are still a threat. it would not surprise me in the least to see her become the first female president.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

JAN 09, 2009 12:55 PM

motorfirebox said:
well, again, that tactic made her very popular with a certain portion of the populace. not a big enough portion to carry the election, obviously, but it's not like she was at all universally condemned for it. it seems to me that she's got that portion of the vote pretty much in the bag, which means she's fairly free to put on a display of moderation that may very well pull in a large chunk of moderate-conservative voters. Sarah Palin and the far right are still a threat. it would not surprise me in the least to see her become the first female president.



That "display of moderation" would be seen as a betrayal by the same hardcore conservatives who rallied behind her while disdaining John McCain.

She's painted herself into the same corner that the GOP in general faces. The Republican coalition has fractured to the point where appealing to one group of Republicans means alienating the others.

Homme

Homme

Los Angeles, CA
January 2009

JAN 09, 2009 01:24 PM

She has "Limbaugh-ed" herself: She is extremely popular with her supporters, but she's become such a polarizing figure she has little chance at winning any sort of national campaign.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JAN 09, 2009 02:05 PM

Uncognitive said:
That "display of moderation" would be seen as a betrayal by the same hardcore conservatives who rallied behind her while disdaining John McCain.

She's painted herself into the same corner that the GOP in general faces. The Republican coalition has fractured to the point where appealing to one group of Republicans means alienating the others.


maybe, maybe not. bridging the gap in the GOP is definitely a challenge. but it may or may not be a game-ender. and there are other factors in play besides Palin's own political connections and abilities, after all.

Gigondas

Gigondas

Charlotte, NC
January 2003

JAN 09, 2009 02:57 PM

There's no way she could be elected. She's a terrible liar.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JAN 09, 2009 03:08 PM

theDrunkMonk said:
There's no way she could be elected. She's a terrible liar.


yeah, but hardcore conservatives are great believers.

*ba-dump tshhh*

Gigondas

Gigondas

Charlotte, NC
January 2003

JAN 09, 2009 03:20 PM

motorfirebox said:

theDrunkMonk said:
There's no way she could be elected. She's a terrible liar.


yeah, but hardcore conservatives are great believers.

*ba-dump tshhh*



Praise the Lord and pass the ballot box?

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JAN 09, 2009 06:38 PM

motorfirebox said:

Uncognitive said:
That "display of moderation" would be seen as a betrayal by the same hardcore conservatives who rallied behind her while disdaining John McCain.

She's painted herself into the same corner that the GOP in general faces. The Republican coalition has fractured to the point where appealing to one group of Republicans means alienating the others.


maybe, maybe not. bridging the gap in the GOP is definitely a challenge. but it may or may not be a game-ender. and there are other factors in play besides Palin's own political connections and abilities, after all.



The post-election approval ratings on Palin were very clear. Everyone who wasn't the religious right thought she was totally unqualified. Her unfavorables were off the charts. She completely sunk McCain's candidacy. This is not a situation where people were ambivalent towards her. They hated the idea of her being in the White House. Her numbers among women were worse than they were among men, and it should have been exactly the opposite. There was no virtually no silver lining for her there for a general election contest. none.

Now, that's not to say that it's impossible for her to turn that around, but it's going to take more than I think she is reasobaly capable of delivering. If the Republicans are at all serious about winning in 2012, they will run from Palin as fast as they can. As a Democrat, I'd love to see her run. Love it.

Melicious

Melicious

Dallas, TX
July 2006

JAN 09, 2009 10:36 PM

mydogfarted said:
If you stop talking about someone, eventually they go away.



Agreed. It honestly pisses my fiance off b/c he wishes that were the case. Though, I am ok with her killing her political future.

Accuser

Accuser

Scottsdale, AZ
October 2006

JAN 10, 2009 12:35 AM

I still think we're better off with a strong, intelligent Republican Party than one that hands elections to Democrats. Palin's everything that's wrong with them. I don't want her running. It lowers the standards all around.