Sometimes it is very difficult to oppose the death penalty

The asshole killed his 2-year-old his 2-year-old son in New Orleans over child support apparently owed his estranged wife $4,000

I am unable to even formulate the questions that need to be asked of society much less understand comprehend the thought process of this asshole. I need a drink or several

Not a gifted strategic thinker, he will spend a great deal of time in prison.

Next time, pay the $4000.00 asshat.

Child murders are not treated well in prison. I'm pretty sure killing your own child so you didn't have to pay child support is REALLY not going to go over well.

Is an inmate's crime always common knowledge throughout the prison?

How?

Do they google each other?

Eventually he confesses to another inmate, and then it spreads like wildfire, either because it is considered bad or considered badass.

Word gets around, but I suspect that guards usually tie a big pink bow on the worst offenders to let the other inmates know he should get "special" attention...

Seriously though, I think prison should be about incarceration without the violence of yard-rule "justice" from other prisoners. Unfortunately, short of isolating everyone, I don't know that that is entirely possible.

I can not fathom the capacity of inhuman behavior, how can someone kill their own child over palimony? It's beyond twisted.

There's more than one way. One of the prisons I knew "decorated" them by giving them a distinct haircut, or shaving off an eyebrow, for example. And then there's just casual conversation, as MisterEnrolled pointed out... In any case, it's very unlikely that he will have a good time in there, which is fitting.

Amen and thank you for saying so...

To the best of my knowledge, most criminals who have victimized children (for example) are kept in protective custody. As the name suggests, this is to protect them from beatings, etc from other prisoners. If the anecdotes are true, there is something seriously wrong with the system. But a lot of that might be prisoners trying to increase their cred. As far as guards, etc saying it, it might be an attempt to scare people out of prison.

Your knowledge is incorrect, the anecdotes are true, the system is beyond broken.

Or the offender makes international news for killing his child. They have TV in prison, you know.

I personally think prisoners get it way too easy, and a good ass kicking, or fudgepacking for killing your own child is the least they could do for him. We can talk about prisoners rights and all, but that childs right to live was taken away from him. And what, the father will get to sit in jail, watch tv all day, go to college, get any medical attention he needs. While I pay for it, struggle to pay my cable bill, get denied grants for college, and avoid seeing a doctor because I cant afford it. For assholes like that, you can tie stones to his feet and throw him in the river for all I care

Oh they don't, mostly they're like Mr. Adder, talking complete crap in an effort to claim some reflected machismo. Prison is not like it is on TV, and frankly, predators in society remain predators in prison and sexual predators in society are still sexual predators in prison.

Child molesters a are, in fact, reviled in prison culture, but, by nature are generally very adept at manipulation and social engineering. They don't make out much worse than any other random felon in all likelihood.

The simple fact is that prisons are an inherent culture of dominance and intimidation. People in prison are usually under educated and have massive emotional and psychological problems. It makes for a brutal, predatory culture.

As for stats, most of them are suspect, and my info is hard copy and largely out of date, but I was friends with the guy who started this,
and I studied under him. Trust me, the system as a whole is right properly fucked.

I doubt very many of us have done hard prison time. Anything outside of that would be purely anecdotal. However I do have friends who have done hard time and there is most definitely a pecking order.Child killers, child molestors, and rapists are at the bottom of the pile.

What thread are you even in, you halfwit? Nobodfy here has been talking about "prisoners' rights". It's been a total non-issue until you pretended otherwise.

Actually, even having done hard prison time only provides anecdotal evidence.

You're right. Constitution schmonstitution. Bring on the anal rape!

I was going to mention SPR and Donny the Punk here. I didn't realize SPR had changed its name to JDI until I clicked on your link. Thanks for the info.

Wow, prison sounds great. Meet you there!

justice, on a societal level, isn't always compatible with the concept of individual criminals 'getting what they deserve'. to some extent, the emotional satisfaction of seeing a criminal pay for his crimes in terms that are dear to him/her is important--it provides an incentive for promoting justice, and a disincentive for committing crimes (or at least for getting caught and convicted). overall, though, the point of the justice system should not be to punish, it should be to help maintain a well-ordered society. that means that the punishments meted out by the justice system must be well-ordered, or you end up with situations where the actual punishment doesn't fit the crime. for instance, in this case, maybe the guy is an nth-degree black belt who makes friends easily (i doubt it, but you never know). in that case, it's unlikely that he'll get his shit pushed in, because he stands a good chance of befriending anyone who might try, and fighting off anyone he can't befriend. meanwhile, someone who is less charismatic and less able to defend themselves--but guilty of a lesser crime--might be fish for his entire cellbock simply because he's easy.

prisoners' rights are not important for the sake of the prisoners themselves. they are important for the sake of the society that maintains the prison.

given the grossly imperfect state of our current prison system, though? yeah, i hope his ass gets more play than XBox.

Why do you think your tax dollars are doing anything?

The crime took place in New Orleans. It's going to be prosecuted on a state level. He didn't cross state lines, the crime didn't take place on federal property, it only took place in New Orleans. He didn't destroy a mailbox in the process of killing his children.

The stated defines murder as a crime, therefore he will be prosecuted on a state level, which means your tax dollars really aren't doing anything to prosecute him or punish him. It also means that your grants for college aren't being denied because someone in another state chose to do something appalling.

What this man did is disgusting. Killing him is entirely too quick and easy. He deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison, where he has nothing better to do that relive everything he did in his mind.

That's not the first time I've seen that mistake, either. I once told a guy that his story was anecdotal evidence, and he responded with "It's not anecdotal if you witness it first-hand." Actually, yes, that's pretty much the definition of anecdotal. People seem to be confusing second-hand with anecdotal.