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Rocktopuss

Rocktopuss

Charlotte, NC
November 2003

DEC 03, 2003 06:07 PM

It seems like I've had to reply to four or five posts from people with an Anti-South bias on this site, and I know there's more of you jackasses out there, so come on, LET'S HAVE IT!!!

I was born in North Carolina, moved around for awhile when I was a kid, and went to middle and high school here. I've lived in plenty of other places for extended periods of time: Seattle, Ohio, Connecticut, Boston, and Cincinnati mostly. Let me tell you something... there are just as many bigoted, backwards, neanderthal, good 'ole boy thugs in any of those places as there are here, and you all know it. Maybe they hide it better, but they're there. And every single one of you making derogatory comments about the place that I call home are just as god-damned bad as they are. Every one of you living outside the south prove my point every time you open your yaps and spew some bile about Southerners: Every place has its fair share of prejudiced asswipes.

I'm tired of it, and I'd sure like to see how fast you'd be excommunicated from this fine website if you said the same sorts of things about Jews, or gays, or African-Americans. Go to Hell...

Al

Al

SUICIDEGIRL

Christmas Island

DEC 03, 2003 06:14 PM

Ouch.

Back in the day, when my brother lived in Seattle, no one ever threatened to beat him up because they thought he was gay. He's lived in NC for a few years now and has been threatened and hassled numerous times. He doesn't even look stereotypically gay. He just wears a lot of pink.

Max16Characters

Max16Characters

Korea, Republic Of
March 2003

DEC 03, 2003 06:18 PM

You're from the south and you can use the internet let alone a computer? Congrats!

Seriously though, i don't necessarily have anything against the South, i just never ever want to live there...too hot and something about people that use words/phrases like "kinfolk" or "War of Northern Aggression" that creap me out a bit.

I'm from Pittsburgh and i can tell you that it's probably every bit as bigoted and prejudiced as many places i've "heard" about in the South.

[Edited on Dec 03, 2003 by Max16Characters]

Allister

Allister

Chico, CA
September 2003

DEC 03, 2003 06:25 PM

Dude. Didn't you hear about the advisory?


For all Northerners
The South will rise again!

Issued by the Southern Tourism Bureau to ALL visiting Northerners And
Northeastern Urbanites:

1) Don't order filet mignon or pasta primavera at Waffle House. It's just a diner. They serve breakfast 24 hours a day. Let them cook something they know. If you confuse them, they'll kick your ass.

2) Don't laugh at our Southern names (Merleen, Bodie, Ovine, Luther Ray, Tammy Lynn, Darla Beth, Inez, Billy Joe, Sissy, Clovis, etc.). Or we will just HAVE to kick your ass.

3) Don't order a bottle of pop or a can of soda down here. Down here it's called Coke. Nobody gives a flying damn whether it's Pepsi, RC, Dr. Pepper, 7-Up or whatever -- it's still a Coke. Accept it. Doing otherwise can lead to an ass kicking.

4) We know our heritage. Most of us are more literate than you (e.g.,Welty, Williams, Faulkner). We are also better educated and generally a lot nicer. Don't refer to us as a bunch of hillbillies, or we'll kick your ass.

5) We have plenty of business sense (e.g., Fred Smith of Fed Ex, Ted Turner of Turner Broadcasting & Atlanta Braves, MCI WorldCom, MTV, Netscape, Weather Channel). Naturally, we do, sometimes, have small lapses in judgment (e.g., Edwards, Duke, Barnes, Clinton, Jesse Jackson). We don't care if you think we are dumb. We are not dumb enough to let someone move to our state in order to take a seat in the Senate. If she tried to do that, we would definitely have to kick her carpetbagging ass.

6) Don't laugh at our Civil War monuments. If Lee had listened to Longstreet and flanked Meade at Gettysburg instead of sending Pickett up the middle, you'd be paying taxes to Richmond instead of Washington. If you visit Stone Mountain and complain about the carving, we'll kick your ass.

7) We are fully aware of how high the humidity is, so shut the hell up. Just spend your money and get the hell out of here, or we'll kick your ass.

8) Don't order wheat toast at Cracker Barrel. Everyone will instantly know that you're a Yankee. Eat your biscuits like God intended -- with gravy. And don't put sugar on your grits, or we'll kick your ass.

9) Don't fake a Southern accent. This will incite a riot, and you will get your ass kicked.

10) Don't talk about how much better things are at home because we know better. Many of us have visited Northern shitholes like Detroit,
Chicago, and DC, and we have the scars to prove it. If you don't like it here, Delta is ready when you are. Move your ass on home before it gets kicked.

11) Yes, we know how to speak proper English. We talk this way because we don't want to sound like you. We don't care if you don't understand what we are saying. All other Southerners understand what we are saying, and that's all that matters. Now, go away and leave us alone, or we'll kick your ass.

12) Don't complain that the South is dirty and polluted. None of OUR lakes or rivers have caught fire recently. If you whine about OUR scenic beauty, we'll kick your ass all the way back to Boston Harbor.

13) Don't ridicule our Southern manners. We say sir and ma'am. We hold doors open for others. We offer our seats to old folks because such things are expected of civilized people. Behave yourselves around our sweet little grey-haired grandmothers or they'll kick some manners into your ass just like they did ours.

14) So you think we're quaint or losers because most of us live in the countryside? That's because we have enough sense to not live in filthy, smelly, crime-infested cesspools like New York or Baltimore. Make fun of our fresh air, and we'll kick your ass.

15) Last, but not least, DO NOT DARE to come down here and tell us how to cook barbecue. This will get your ass shot (right after it is
kicked). You're lucky we let you come down here at all & really lucky if we let you eat any of OUR barbecue. Criticize our barbeque, and you will go home in a pine box. Minus your ass.


*Edited to state that this 'advisory' is from a joke site; I don't have the link any more.*


[Edited on Dec 03, 2003 by Allister]

[Edited on Dec 03, 2003 by Allister]

Rocktopuss

Rocktopuss

Charlotte, NC
November 2003

DEC 03, 2003 06:31 PM

Ever been to Kent or Everett, or god forbid Tacoma? Wasn't there a gay guy tied to a fence and left for dead in Wyoming a few years ago? I'm just saying that it's just as prejudiced to generalize about a group of people because of where they're from as it is because of their skin color. Maybe the types of bigotry differ. Seattle can be pretty open-minded about homosexuality, but I also remember hearing more than my fill of off-color jokes and slurs about Asians.

I'm not saying that there is no hate in the South. We all know there's a long history of it here, and I wouldn't ignore the truth of that. Southerners are at least aware of it for the most part, which is more than I can say for other places. I'm just a little tired of hearing the jokes and slights towards my home. I guess my point is that people shouldn't tell me that my house is dirty, when theirs isn't really any better. How would you feel if your heritage was the butt of a continuous joke? I really started to be aware of it when CBS was going to do the reality-show version of the Beverly Hillbillies. They were going to take a poor Appalachian family and move them to BH and laugh as they spent all their money in poor taste.

There are plenty of things I don't like about being here. There are also plenty of things I don't like about Seattle or San Francisco or New York, but I try not to make snarky comments about those places.

Nixon

Nixon

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

DEC 03, 2003 06:31 PM

I grew up in the South. And this I know- there are a whole LOT more redneck assholes there. I haven't been home in a year, and in that whole time not one person has asked me if I'm a Satanist. Noone has given me directions by churches. Only a handful of people hafe asked me if I am saved. Noone has reached out to yank on my hair or piercings to figure out if they're real, crashed a car staring at me, thrust themselves between me and their children, or ripped the Darwin fish off my car. Go Northwest!

Rocktopuss

Rocktopuss

Charlotte, NC
November 2003

DEC 03, 2003 06:34 PM

Allister said:
Dude. Didn't you hear about the advisory?


For all Northerners
The South will rise again!

Issued by the Southern Tourism Bureau to ALL visiting Northerners And
Northeastern Urbanites:

1) Don't order filet mignon or pasta primavera at Waffle House. It's just a diner. They serve breakfast 24 hours a day. Let them cook something they know. If you confuse them, they'll kick your ass.

2) Don't laugh at our Southern names (Merleen, Bodie, Ovine, Luther Ray, Tammy Lynn, Darla Beth, Inez, Billy Joe, Sissy, Clovis, etc.). Or we will just HAVE to kick your ass.

3) Don't order a bottle of pop or a can of soda down here. Down here it's called Coke. Nobody gives a flying damn whether it's Pepsi, RC, Dr. Pepper, 7-Up or whatever -- it's still a Coke. Accept it. Doing otherwise can lead to an ass kicking.

4) We know our heritage. Most of us are more literate than you (e.g.,Welty, Williams, Faulkner). We are also better educated and generally a lot nicer. Don't refer to us as a bunch of hillbillies, or we'll kick your ass.

5) We have plenty of business sense (e.g., Fred Smith of Fed Ex, Ted Turner of Turner Broadcasting & Atlanta Braves, MCI WorldCom, MTV, Netscape, Weather Channel). Naturally, we do, sometimes, have small lapses in judgment (e.g., Edwards, Duke, Barnes, Clinton, Jesse Jackson). We don't care if you think we are dumb. We are not dumb enough to let someone move to our state in order to take a seat in the Senate. If she tried to do that, we would definitely have to kick her carpetbagging ass.

6) Don't laugh at our Civil War monuments. If Lee had listened to Longstreet and flanked Meade at Gettysburg instead of sending Pickett up the middle, you'd be paying taxes to Richmond instead of Washington. If you visit Stone Mountain and complain about the carving, we'll kick your ass.

7) We are fully aware of how high the humidity is, so shut the hell up. Just spend your money and get the hell out of here, or we'll kick your ass.

8) Don't order wheat toast at Cracker Barrel. Everyone will instantly know that you're a Yankee. Eat your biscuits like God intended -- with gravy. And don't put sugar on your grits, or we'll kick your ass.

9) Don't fake a Southern accent. This will incite a riot, and you will get your ass kicked.

10) Don't talk about how much better things are at home because we know better. Many of us have visited Northern shitholes like Detroit,
Chicago, and DC, and we have the scars to prove it. If you don't like it here, Delta is ready when you are. Move your ass on home before it gets kicked.

11) Yes, we know how to speak proper English. We talk this way because we don't want to sound like you. We don't care if you don't understand what we are saying. All other Southerners understand what we are saying, and that's all that matters. Now, go away and leave us alone, or we'll kick your ass.

12) Don't complain that the South is dirty and polluted. None of OUR lakes or rivers have caught fire recently. If you whine about OUR scenic beauty, we'll kick your ass all the way back to Boston Harbor.

13) Don't ridicule our Southern manners. We say sir and ma'am. We hold doors open for others. We offer our seats to old folks because such things are expected of civilized people. Behave yourselves around our sweet little grey-haired grandmothers or they'll kick some manners into your ass just like they did ours.

14) So you think we're quaint or losers because most of us live in the countryside? That's because we have enough sense to not live in filthy, smelly, crime-infested cesspools like New York or Baltimore. Make fun of our fresh air, and we'll kick your ass.

15) Last, but not least, DO NOT DARE to come down here and tell us how to cook barbecue. This will get your ass shot (right after it is
kicked). You're lucky we let you come down here at all & really lucky if we let you eat any of OUR barbecue. Criticize our barbeque, and you will go home in a pine box. Minus your ass.


*Edited to state that this 'advisory' is from a joke site; I don't have the link any more.*


[Edited on Dec 03, 2003 by Allister]

[Edited on Dec 03, 2003 by Allister]




That's great!, I just saved it to disk. Thank You, Sir.

Max16Characters

Max16Characters

Korea, Republic Of
March 2003

DEC 03, 2003 06:36 PM

Nixon said:
I grew up in the South. And this I know- there are a whole LOT more redneck assholes there. I haven't been home in a year, and in that whole time not one person has asked me if I'm a Satanist. Noone has given me directions by churches. Only a handful of people hafe asked me if I am saved. Noone has reached out to yank on my hair or piercings to figure out if they're real, crashed a car staring at me, thrust themselves between me and their children, or ripped the Darwin fish off my car. Go Northwest!



Ha...you should try visiting Central Pennsylvania sometime. At least in the South, they know they're in the South...not these dumb bastards in my state who fly the Confederate flag from anything that'll hold it up. Up here though it's relatively hard to hind behind the "heritage not hatred" thing as Keystone State has always been in the North and instrumental (Gettysburg) in securing the North's victory.

Rocktopuss

Rocktopuss

Charlotte, NC
November 2003

DEC 03, 2003 06:38 PM

Nixon said:
I grew up in the South. And this I know- there are a whole LOT more redneck assholes there. I haven't been home in a year, and in that whole time not one person has asked me if I'm a Satanist. Noone has given me directions by churches. Only a handful of people hafe asked me if I am saved. Noone has reached out to yank on my hair or piercings to figure out if they're real, crashed a car staring at me, thrust themselves between me and their children, or ripped the Darwin fish off my car. Go Northwest!



Just because people aren't saying those things to you there, doesn't mean they're not thinking it. Assuming to know what others are thinking is arrogant.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

DEC 03, 2003 06:41 PM

Yeah, but there's a big difference between saying something and thinking it.

Nixon

Nixon

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

DEC 03, 2003 06:42 PM

Rocktopuss said:


Just because people aren't saying those things to you there, doesn't mean they're not thinking it. Assuming to know what others are thinking is arrogant.



That's true. I don't assume to know (or care) what they are thinking. That's their business. I just know they act a lot nicer, and cause me a lot less difficulty.

Al

Al

SUICIDEGIRL

Christmas Island

DEC 03, 2003 06:42 PM

Rocktopuss said:

Nixon said:
I grew up in the South. And this I know- there are a whole LOT more redneck assholes there. I haven't been home in a year, and in that whole time not one person has asked me if I'm a Satanist. Noone has given me directions by churches. Only a handful of people hafe asked me if I am saved. Noone has reached out to yank on my hair or piercings to figure out if they're real, crashed a car staring at me, thrust themselves between me and their children, or ripped the Darwin fish off my car. Go Northwest!



Just because people aren't saying those things to you there, doesn't mean they're not thinking it. Assuming to know what others are thinking is arrogant.


You know, as long as they're just thinking it and not acting on it I don't fucking care.

But that fine lady said it first.

[Edited on Dec 03, 2003 by Al]

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

DEC 03, 2003 06:44 PM

Rocktopuss said:
I'm tired of it, and I'd sure like to see how fast you'd be excommunicated from this fine website if you said the same sorts of things about Jews, or gays, or African-Americans. Go to Hell...



as long as i can still make fun of canadians, fine.

purephase

purephase

Canada
November 2002

DEC 03, 2003 06:49 PM

jason said:
as long as i can still make fun of canadians, fine.


*nod*

Polar bear skin wearin' freaks. biggrin

Rocktopuss

Rocktopuss

Charlotte, NC
November 2003

DEC 03, 2003 06:50 PM

Yes, you're right. However, a bigot who keeps his mouth shut is still a bigot.
And someone else, who bashes groups of people because of where they're from, is also a bigot. I'm just calling these turds out for what they are.

PoopooHead

PoopooHead

Brooklyn, NY
September 2003

DEC 03, 2003 07:02 PM

Rocktopuss said:
ALL KINDS OF CRAZY SHIT, AND THEN:
...There are also plenty of things I don't like about Seattle or San Francisco or New York, but I try not to make snarky comments about those places.




Come on, let's hear some snarky comments about NYC, bub. I dare ya. I'll have to get all Sherman on your Southern ass.
ARRR!!!

Kosomot

kosomot

Pompano Beach, FL
November 2003

DEC 03, 2003 07:14 PM

All ya'll are bigotted bigots. Ya hear!

RubberSoul

RubberSoul

Los Angeles, CA
February 2003

DEC 03, 2003 07:19 PM

Rocktopuss said:
It seems like I've had to reply to four or five posts from people with an Anti-South bias on this site, and I know there's more of you jackasses out there, so come on, LET'S HAVE IT!!!

I was born in North Carolina, moved around for awhile when I was a kid, and went to middle and high school here. I've lived in plenty of other places for extended periods of time: Seattle, Ohio, Connecticut, Boston, and Cincinnati mostly. Let me tell you something... there are just as many bigoted, backwards, neanderthal, good 'ole boy thugs in any of those places as there are here, and you all know it. Maybe they hide it better, but they're there. And every single one of you making derogatory comments about the place that I call home are just as god-damned bad as they are. Every one of you living outside the south prove my point every time you open your yaps and spew some bile about Southerners: Every place has its fair share of prejudiced asswipes.

I'm tired of it, and I'd sure like to see how fast you'd be excommunicated from this fine website if you said the same sorts of things about Jews, or gays, or African-Americans. Go to Hell...



Dude, you sound SO-FIS-TEE-CATED!!! You've lived in all the garden spots...North Carolina...Cincinnati...shit, that's almost like Paris and Rome!!! How could anybody imply that you're a yokel!?!

hyparxis

hyparxis

Oakland, CA
January 2003

DEC 03, 2003 07:20 PM



rObo kitty luv teh souf!!1!

[Edited on Dec 03, 2003 by hyparxis]

Rocktopuss

Rocktopuss

Charlotte, NC
November 2003

DEC 03, 2003 07:29 PM

souljacker said:

Rocktopuss said:
It seems like I've had to reply to four or five posts from people with an Anti-South bias on this site, and I know there's more of you jackasses out there, so come on, LET'S HAVE IT!!!

I was born in North Carolina, moved around for awhile when I was a kid, and went to middle and high school here. I've lived in plenty of other places for extended periods of time: Seattle, Ohio, Connecticut, Boston, and Cincinnati mostly. Let me tell you something... there are just as many bigoted, backwards, neanderthal, good 'ole boy thugs in any of those places as there are here, and you all know it. Maybe they hide it better, but they're there. And every single one of you making derogatory comments about the place that I call home are just as god-damned bad as they are. Every one of you living outside the south prove my point every time you open your yaps and spew some bile about Southerners: Every place has its fair share of prejudiced asswipes.

I'm tired of it, and I'd sure like to see how fast you'd be excommunicated from this fine website if you said the same sorts of things about Jews, or gays, or African-Americans. Go to Hell...



Dude, you sound SO-FIS-TEE-CATED!!! You've lived in all the garden spots...North Carolina...Cincinnati...shit, that's almost like Paris and Rome!!! How could anybody imply that you're a yokel!?!



Not trying to sound sophisticated, It's not like I've been around the world. Either you missed the point or you're just trying to get me riled up.

nadir

nadir

Brooklyn, NY
OLD SKOOL

DEC 03, 2003 07:31 PM

Rocktopuss is right for the most part...

hey i grew up in texas, where many times someone threatened to kick my ass because i was "queer as fuck" etc...

but really, i probably would have been told the same thing in other places, people are going through the development thing etc, and are ass holes everywhere (including myself).

one night when i was out at a coffee shop/punk rock club (which lasted all of about 4 weeks) some neo nazi fuck threatened me as well, but the owner chased them out and the drive me to my car...

the south is not all that back woods that others make it out to be

many people say shit about the south without going there -- i myself do not find it appealing, but my big thing is public transportation.... -- but there is no more bigots there than anywhere else

and in fact in the early 90's there were more KKK members in oregon, no not portland or eugene, than anywhere else in the country

nobody likes to be associated with assholes, which are everywhere, but the south is over associated with them; therefore, they are a joke to the rest of the country. and over time it has become ok to bash them, which is completely prejudicial and ignorant.


[Edited on Dec 03, 2003 by nadir]

Pauillac

Pauillac

Canada
April 2003

DEC 03, 2003 07:32 PM

Jason said:
as long as i can still make fun of canadians, fine.



Don't be such a hoser, eh?

*Edited to include author of original quote*

[Edited on Dec 03, 2003 by Pauillac]

BudoViking

BudoViking

Washington, DC
October 2003

DEC 03, 2003 07:42 PM

Having been born and bred and lived most of my life in the south, and having travelled alot outside of it, I find this an amusing thread.

I've met narrow-minded, bigoted people the world over and I've had the pleasure of meeting warm-hearted, generous people the world over. Stereotypes are just that. Stereotypes. Judge people by their actions, not by what your preconceived notion of how they should act might be. Better yet, don't judge them at all. They are who they are. You can't change that. You can only change how you deal with it.

daem

daem

Ocean Springs, MS
January 2003

DEC 03, 2003 09:44 PM

I lived in the north east and hung out in boston enough. I now live in Biloxi. People back home are definatly smarter as a genral rule, but then again MS is the 48th stupidest state, so it's not all of the south. People down here are incredibly nice, or complete assholes, where as back home they tend to either ignore you or shit talk you. The racist fucks are everywhere. In my friends town in north bumfuck NH there is a white power militia, but one black family. Said militia is preparing for a race war. And there is a large Hammerskin population in the northwest, and they had their Hammerfest last year in portland.

What I think it boils down to, for me anyways, is that the south has much more religion beaten into them. In the local paper's "Sound Off" (a column where readers write their opinions on world matters) there have to be at least half written about liberals taking god out of everything. To me I think it might have to do witht he large poor population. They have no money and nothing to keep themselves going, so they go to church, but thats just what i think. The right wing nuts and gun toating crazies speak louder down here than elsewhere. Up north is more business oriented. It's a MUCH faster pace so people tend to care less than the south. I've gotten the same reactions to the way i looked both places. Parents pulling kids away, people touching my mohawk (when i had it) grimmacing at my tattoo, complimenting my tattoo, stares and shit like that.

But the south has the best fucking cooking in America.

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

DEC 03, 2003 09:59 PM

I have nothing against the south. I spent about three months total on a job in Charlotte and found friends and some of the sweetest people I've ever met.

However, I do recall having to drive a truck from Jacksonville, FL home to Philadelphia. We stopped at an all-night diner in Bumblefuck, SC for some grub and took careful note of a sticker on the door. No, it wasn't "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" ... it was "Please Leave All Handguns In Your Vehicle".

What the fuck is that?!?

That was also the night I was first introduced to grits. Thumbs down on the grits.
Oh, and I abhor the Atlanta Braves.

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