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TheInsomniac

TheInsomniac

Washington, DC
October 2003

DEC 01, 2003 08:27 AM

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman," the new California governor said.





Discuss.

purephase

purephase

Canada
November 2002

DEC 01, 2003 08:28 AM

Maybe he meant happy?

Boy, do I feel for Californians. Well, intelligent Californians. Somebody had to elect this moron.

Evildoc

Evildoc

Zimbabwe
November 2003

DEC 01, 2003 08:55 AM

Speaking as a Californian -- this whole recall was just mindblowing. Arnold made a point of never answering questions. In the one and only debate, he was declared winner even though his answers were all factually incorrect. When I confronted people about Arnold's past deads and his serial sexual harrassment of his female employees, I was given answers like, "I don't care."

This was all about Republicans grabbing power so that they can take more graft. Bush is praying he can make California a battleground state in 2004.

Al

Al

SUICIDEGIRL

Christmas Island

DEC 01, 2003 09:40 AM

That's so awesome. Well, he's got my vote.

Oninotaki

oninotaki

Ypsilanti, MI
March 2003

DEC 01, 2003 09:46 AM

Dont know how to take that one. I think its funny but not really how a governor should be talking about things. Oh well not like its my statebiggrin

marley386

marley386

Arcata, CA
October 2003

DEC 01, 2003 09:46 AM

It's miserable... I just wish I had the scratch to get the heck out of here!

papawheelie

papawheelie

Fisty, KY
February 2003

DEC 01, 2003 09:56 AM

maybe he has hired dub-ya's writers

marley386

marley386

Arcata, CA
October 2003

DEC 01, 2003 09:57 AM

Maybe he and dub-ya share a brain... or half of one...

MisterJesus

MisterJesus

United Kingdom
November 2002

DEC 01, 2003 10:18 AM

Boy howdy I'd love to be in cali and get me one of those gay marriages to my best girl littleloco

bcnelson

bcnelson

Pasadena, CA
September 2002

DEC 01, 2003 10:24 AM

Or maybe he just misspoke, happens to the best of us.

I'd like to see your source for that quote by the way. A lot of these "famous" statements, like Al Gore claiming he invented the internet, or Dan Quayle wanting to learn Latin, are really urban legends. It's possible Arnold, who speaks English as a second language, said such a thing because he speaks off the top of his head more than a seasoned politician would. On the other hand, I am always curious to see where people get these quotes, because often their source is "well someone told me he said it".

I eagerly await the day we all have a little camera shoved in our face every time someone asks us a question, so we can see how stupid we can sound on the spur of the moment. I did it for a living, so believe me, i have shot and edited miles of tape where reporters who were very smart people sounded like complete dumbasses. Or where their subject, who misspoke, then corrected themselves, were made to look like dumbasses. And I've seen enough lawyers misspeak in front of judges to know that smart, educated people periodically sound like retards even on their best days.

I think you need to chill with the witchhunt and see what the guy actually does before crucifying him. The voters have heard all your previous arguments and apparently disagreed, so until you have some new material keep it to yourself.

Always interesting how the Democrats in this state conveniently ignore Davis's record of throwing things and hitting staff members while in state office when they bring up these groping allegations. Hear much about how Davis shook one female staff member until she broke down in tears? Nah, the LA Times won't cover that one. Unlike the allegations against Swartzenegger, however, each and every one of these incidents are well documented by multiple witnesses.

I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat, I'm an independant. But I gotta say, there's not a thing Arnold is proposing that is going to screw this state up worse than the situation that Davis and the current legislature have created. Arnold may not be great in 4 years, I may vote for someone else if the Democrats are capable of producing a candidate who is fiscally conservative and not beholden to the unions and special interests. On the other hand, he deserves more than a month in office to develop his policies. And he deserves for people to shut the hell up with petty garbage like this post and grade him on his success or failure as a governor based on results.

mathmaddicts

mathmaddicts

Solana Beach, CA
October 2003

DEC 01, 2003 10:41 AM

hey man petty garbage or not this man who you're endorsing comes from the same party that attempted to crucify clinton (several times I might add) for his sex scandals. Now I'm not a big clinton fan and I know that you claim to be an independent (just like good old Bill O'Rielly) but I've got to say there is a time and a place for fiscal conservatism and it is a thousand years from now in another dimension. Hey just kiddin, you're alright. But seriously fiscal conservatism is not what we need right now. Corporate corruption is out of control, economic stratification is widening (execs have gone from making 40 times what employees make [80's] to 400 times [90's]), it was the fact that davis was a political hack and tied to corporate interests that led to his failure to deal with the energy crisis. Sorry man I just have to say that you are wrong and you have mispelled the word independent and therefore your post should be recalled.

TheInsomniac

TheInsomniac

Washington, DC
October 2003

DEC 01, 2003 10:58 AM

bcnelson said:
I'd like to see your source for that quote by the way.




Here you go. It's called CNN. Maybe you've heard of it?

By the way, anybody else got any good Governor Schwarzenegger quotes?

[Edited on Dec 01, 2003 by SaintAshlar]

[Edited on Dec 01, 2003 by SaintAshlar]

mathmaddicts

mathmaddicts

Solana Beach, CA
October 2003

DEC 01, 2003 11:27 AM

"talk to the hand"

corinthian

corinthian

Chicago, IL
June 2003

DEC 01, 2003 11:48 AM

My dream is to one day set foot in the Schwarzenneger Presidential library as the Demolition Man prophecies foretell. And to be fair the media puts there own spin on everything that comes out of peoples mouths. I think its funny in a sad way that he got elected now all anyone can do is hope he’s not as dumb as he sounds.

marley386

marley386

Arcata, CA
October 2003

DEC 01, 2003 12:07 PM

bcnelson said:
Or maybe he just misspoke, happens to the best of us.

I'd like to see your source for that quote by the way. A lot of these "famous" statements, like Al Gore claiming he invented the internet, or Dan Quayle wanting to learn Latin, are really urban legends. It's possible Arnold, who speaks English as a second language, said such a thing because he speaks off the top of his head more than a seasoned politician would. On the other hand, I am always curious to see where people get these quotes, because often their source is "well someone told me he said it".

I eagerly await the day we all have a little camera shoved in our face every time someone asks us a question, so we can see how stupid we can sound on the spur of the moment. I did it for a living, so believe me, i have shot and edited miles of tape where reporters who were very smart people sounded like complete dumbasses. Or where their subject, who misspoke, then corrected themselves, were made to look like dumbasses. And I've seen enough lawyers misspeak in front of judges to know that smart, educated people periodically sound like retards even on their best days.

I think you need to chill with the witchhunt and see what the guy actually does before crucifying him. The voters have heard all your previous arguments and apparently disagreed, so until you have some new material keep it to yourself.

Always interesting how the Democrats in this state conveniently ignore Davis's record of throwing things and hitting staff members while in state office when they bring up these groping allegations. Hear much about how Davis shook one female staff member until she broke down in tears? Nah, the LA Times won't cover that one. Unlike the allegations against Swartzenegger, however, each and every one of these incidents are well documented by multiple witnesses.

I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat, I'm an independant. But I gotta say, there's not a thing Arnold is proposing that is going to screw this state up worse than the situation that Davis and the current legislature have created. Arnold may not be great in 4 years, I may vote for someone else if the Democrats are capable of producing a candidate who is fiscally conservative and not beholden to the unions and special interests. On the other hand, he deserves more than a month in office to develop his policies. And he deserves for people to shut the hell up with petty garbage like this post and grade him on his success or failure as a governor based on results.



Ahh - give him a chance - well, lets see, one of the things he said he wouldn't do is take his budget cuts to the education system - whoops, he did that. Oh - and his commitment to children lasted all the way untill he cut funding for "special needs" kids - but he isn't in there with special interests... oh wait! That's right - he did take special interest contributions, just not from the ones he had no intention of backing. Top that off with the fact that his plan to get us out of debt by borrowing more money is the same plan Davis had - only he was a "fiscally irresponsible" governor while Ahhnulld is "not politics as usual."

I revel in this - just hoping I can get out of the state before it falls into the ocean. We got him in there - we deserve him - and we will blame him for all that he screws up when it is really the California voters who should be spanked for having fallen for such an old song and dance.

Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

DEC 01, 2003 12:09 PM

"You're luggage".





Discuss.

kingcrac

kingcrac

Chicago, IL
September 2002

DEC 01, 2003 01:01 PM

bcnelson

here's an article about the governator that might interest you

http://gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=282&row=1


as for what the voters agreed with or disagreed with, I suspect that most people voted for him because hes the fucking terminator, not because of his stand on policies. Though I'm not from California so I don't really know what the mood was, it's more of a guess.
But I do know, as does the Bush administration, that American voters have a short attention span and react more to celebrity and showmanship than they do to facts and reason. Just ask anyone from Minnesota.

kingcrac

kingcrac

Chicago, IL
September 2002

DEC 01, 2003 01:04 PM

and I know Palast's tone is condescending, whiney, self serving and annoying, but it's still interesting

RagleGumm

RagleGumm

Canada
September 2003

DEC 01, 2003 06:03 PM

"Nice shirt. It makes you look like a homosexual. (booo!) Perhaps you are all homosexuals!" (fires a machine gun into the audience)

[Edited on Dec 01, 2003 by RagleGumm]

troglodyte

troglodyte

Victoria, BC
May 2003

DEC 01, 2003 06:13 PM

Does he mean that gays and lesbians should get married to each other?

palindrome

palindrome

Portland, OR
February 2003

DEC 01, 2003 06:35 PM

We Californians sure have picked ourselves a winner, haven't we?
The whole recall left me feeling unsettled and disgusted as it was. Now it turns out he feels it necessary to actually voice an opinion as if he were a real politician.
This is like one long and drawn out (but not at all funny) joke that no one gets....
puke

[Edited on Dec 01, 2003 by LicktyStyx]

leavemehere

leavemehere

San Diego, CA
December 2002

DEC 01, 2003 06:54 PM

this is the reason i don't pay attention to politics
a waste of time

this is funny though tongue

Rocktopuss

Rocktopuss

Charlotte, NC
November 2003

DEC 01, 2003 07:26 PM

bcnelson said:
Or maybe he just misspoke, happens to the best of us.

I'd like to see your source for that quote by the way. A lot of these "famous" statements, like Al Gore claiming he invented the internet, or Dan Quayle wanting to learn Latin, are really urban legends. It's possible Arnold, who speaks English as a second language, said such a thing because he speaks off the top of his head more than a seasoned politician would. On the other hand, I am always curious to see where people get these quotes, because often their source is "well someone told me he said it".

I eagerly await the day we all have a little camera shoved in our face every time someone asks us a question, so we can see how stupid we can sound on the spur of the moment. I did it for a living, so believe me, i have shot and edited miles of tape where reporters who were very smart people sounded like complete dumbasses. Or where their subject, who misspoke, then corrected themselves, were made to look like dumbasses. And I've seen enough lawyers misspeak in front of judges to know that smart, educated people periodically sound like retards even on their best days.

I think you need to chill with the witchhunt and see what the guy actually does before crucifying him. The voters have heard all your previous arguments and apparently disagreed, so until you have some new material keep it to yourself.

Always interesting how the Democrats in this state conveniently ignore Davis's record of throwing things and hitting staff members while in state office when they bring up these groping allegations. Hear much about how Davis shook one female staff member until she broke down in tears? Nah, the LA Times won't cover that one. Unlike the allegations against Swartzenegger, however, each and every one of these incidents are well documented by multiple witnesses.

I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat, I'm an independant. But I gotta say, there's not a thing Arnold is proposing that is going to screw this state up worse than the situation that Davis and the current legislature have created. Arnold may not be great in 4 years, I may vote for someone else if the Democrats are capable of producing a candidate who is fiscally conservative and not beholden to the unions and special interests. On the other hand, he deserves more than a month in office to develop his policies. And he deserves for people to shut the hell up with petty garbage like this post and grade him on his success or failure as a governor based on results.



Well said... Davis seemed to have done a pretty crappy job by anyone's standards (except maybe party faithful). I'm just curious how the hell you recall an election. Arnold may wind up doing a bang up job, but Davis was voted in, and unless he commits an impeachable offense, I think he should stay in. On the other hand, I suppose the referendum on the recall more or less gave Davis a vote of 'No Confidence' so maybe it is fair to recall him. Anyway, Arnold should be given a bit more time than a month.

legionnaire

legionnaire

Belgium
November 2003

DEC 01, 2003 07:42 PM

Davis' two biggest problems were the lackluster economy of the state and the energy crisis. The energy crisis was primarily the result of legislation implemented by his predecessor, Pete Wilson (who was Republican, if you recall, no pun intended) and shenanigans from corporations like Enron that artificially inflated the cost of electricity beyond what it would have been had it actually been a free market situation. Davis can't really be blamed for either of those.

The California economy did tank - but so has the economy of the nation as a whole, and of many other states. California took it a little worse because it was coming off of an artificial high created during the internet bubble - it's the perceived difference that's the problem, budget projections were based on unrealistic expectations of a neverending continuation of the internet boom.

I'm not particularly a fan of Davis (his 2002 campaign was pretty repugnant) and I don't have any serious problems with Schwarzenegger yet, since he hasn't done much. I just don't think it's fair that Davis was pinned with all of these problems that were not necessarily his own doing.

Oh, and finally, I'm extremely happy to no longer be living in California.

Dante0

Dante0

Sandusky, OH
September 2003

DEC 01, 2003 08:04 PM

SpaceInvader said:
bcnelson

here's an article about the governator that might interest you

http://gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=282&row=1


as for what the voters agreed with or disagreed with, I suspect that most people voted for him because hes the fucking terminator, not because of his stand on policies. Though I'm not from California so I don't really know what the mood was, it's more of a guess.
But I do know, as does the Bush administration, that American voters have a short attention span and react more to celebrity and showmanship than they do to facts and reason. Just ask anyone from Minnesota.



This sounds to me like conspiracymongering at it's best. I find it rather convenient that these documents showed up just in time for the election. If these documents are authentic, why wasn't he implicated in the Enron trial? I find it rather dubious.

Here's a possible answer to my question: Cruz Bustamante. He is pretty much the hub of this whole article. This man is the biggest racist to enter the political arena since George Wallace. He "proudly" supports an Atzlan revival organization who's creedo is translated as: "For the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing". I say proudly, because any time he was asked about it, he made a big deal about not answering the question at all. If someone tried to wrongly associate me with the KKK because I'm white, I'd happily, eagerly, and viciously beat the shit out of them for it. As would anyone else who is as diametrically opposed to racism and racist organizations as I am.

A theory: this was more political dung flinging at a candidate who was obviously the forerunner. The fact that he was the forerunner because of his popularity as opposed to his experience/political stance is irrevelant. Politicians will do and say anything to get the seat they want.

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