NEWS: What The Fuck, Black People?

POLITICS: What The Fuck, Black People?

Yesterday was like getting a blowjob followed by a kick to the balls. First Obama won the presidency. Amazing historical moment. I kept looking at the faces of African Americans on television and feeling very happy for them, even though I have no idea how they feel. We actually elected a black president, though it had little to do with skin color and everything to do with the quality of the man. But the fact that he is black is amazingly important. Then, three hours later I learned Proposition 8 in California was going down in flames. Gay people had their right to marry taken away. On one hand, we made a choice that will have an incredible positive effect for minorities and then with the other hand, we punched gays in the face.

I was furious last night. “Fuck the Mormons,” I said. “Fuck the Christians,” too. I’m not really interested in your retarded books and backwards thinking ruling my life or my neighbor’s lives. And that is a literal statement. My next-door neighbors cannot get married today, like I am. Upon further exploration of the people who voted for Prop 8, I was disturbed to learn a massive amount of black people voted to strip the rights of another minority. Today I feel like I helped a black friend buy a new television and then he turned around and smashed it over the head of my gay friend.



Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? Oh, I get that there is a lot of anti-gay sentiment in the black community, or at least that’s what has been said for years. Now we get to see it in numbers. It is indeed true. Coming from a group of people who have been on the ass end of white America for so long, I find this incredibly fucked up.

Two days ago I was sitting in an airport in San Jose, watching people passing by, wearing Obama T-shirts. I saw several black people, in their 60s, with our soon to be new president’s name across their chest. It’s hard to describe the feeling I had. Pride in my country for overcoming years of hatred and prejudice to get to this point. Feeling incredibly happy that those older African Americans were about to experience something they probably never thought possible, knowing that future generations will never look at our country the same way again. And most importantly, that everything is possible for African Americans.

Now those feelings are gone. Dashed. Destroyed. Because we nominated Barack Obama, gays cannot get married in our state. The voting was close and the turnout amongst blacks was huge. They came to support Obama in huge numbers and by a three to one margin, blacks voted to strip the rights of other Americans away.

There is no reason why gay people shouldn’t be allowed to marry. None. Other than bigotry. It simply boils down to disgust at the thought of something that has nothing to do with you. You don’t have to like someone to do the right thing. In this case, we voted to do the wrong thing and people who say otherwise are lying to themselves. There is no reason for anyone to be involved in other people’s relationships. None.

I am very upset that what should be a happy time is not. I actually feel a deep disgust with my fellow Californians today. I am deeply disappointed by California African Americans. I feel nothing by hatred for the Mormons and Christians who poured money into our state to create commercials full of lies. Many of us will never forgive them for doing so. I will certainly be boycotting Mormon businesses from here on out. Marriott hotels can fuck off forever, as well as other LDS owned companies. There is no other way to fight them. You can’t educate fanatics.

Thanks for ruining a good time, you fucks.


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Those that voted yes did so for religious reasons, the black community in this country is very religious so this vote comes as no surprise. Rather than spewing hate because one minority group voted in a way that supressed the right of another minority group you should instead spew that hate at the assholes who people to get them to vote that way and not make it sould like it's a shame that black people exercised their rights to vote in a way that you dissagree with.

I'm going to agree with Colinism here and say that a large portion of the black community IS very religious and finds the idea of homosexuality morally reprehensible , more so the idea of gay people people getting married.

One may even be able to draw some corrollaries here to the fact that excluding gay men and I.V. drug users ..the highest incidence of new H.I.V. infections is in fact in black women.

And don't discount the Hispanic voters either..who i am going to assume would be predominantly Catholic and aren't down with it too much.

Right. Because racism magically disappeared on Tuesday night.

i realize you're upset but , I don't think that would necessarily be such a good idea.

You say that like it's a valid and rational reason. We are a secular country, and religious arguments should not be a basis for law. There is absolutely no valid non-religious reason why gays and lesbians should not be allowed to marry, and therefore it should be unconstitutional to deny them the right to do so, on First Amendment grounds. All arguments against homosexual marriage are grounded in religion. Therefore all arguments against homosexual marriage should have no legal force.

I don't think he's saying it's a valid reason, more like he's saying ---

it is what it is.

Wow I accidently deleted a few words from my original post when I was editing it this is what it was supposed to say originally. YIKES!!!

I bolded the accidently omitted words.

Dude, you should totally try that.


This is taken from
this thread:

While I agree with the sentiment that it's a horrible thing that there are segments of blacks who anti-progressive, as it relates to sexuality, it's a mistake to hold all blacks accountable. Because there are certainly black people who are on the front-lines of the gay rights movement.

It doesn't have so much to do with ethnicity as it has to do with religious orthodoxy.

If I remember correctly, religion was often cited as a reason to pass miscegenation laws and even to justify slavery. So much of the movement against gay marriage in California was couched in language used to deprive minorities and the black community especially of their rights, and later to justify "separate-but-equal" (you know, separate but equal businesses, separate but equal churches, separate but equal drinking fountains, separate but equal schools). I'm just sad that that flew right by so many people. And it's especially ironic that so many older members of the gay community have been part of the activist base that marched with the civil rights movement.

I knew that this would happen, but I hoped I was wrong. But then, California pretty much universally disappointed me on social propositions this year. At least 4 failed, I suppose.

By the way, I'm black and I've always staunchly supported the rights of the queer community. I can't fathom how/why the US courts have not made the rights of gays as unassailable as the right of every person to be free of slavery.

Interesting, most of my lesbian relationships have been with black dykes who were openly gay in their communities and families.

That's a positive note? Good luck with that.

I am obviously not black but if I had to take a guess I would say that its because slavery and segregation were based on skin color which is something you can not control. Now while you also can not control sexual orientation, there is a signifigant amount of people who believe being Gay is a choice so they do not see it as people being discriminated against.

If I am wrong I will be expecting a PM from Wildswan in a few minutes.

Well, that's an explanation I've heard from some people (black, white, and otherwise), but I find it incredibly specious and smacks of a kind of victim one-upism.


I think a lot of people erroneously think being gay is a "lifestyle," or "life-style choice." And yet, they never view being 'straight' in that same manner. It galls me that being heterosexual is viewed as a superior sexual default.

It feels so good to have you and your stunning insights back on the boards

Pretty much what I am saying just more eloquent.

Don't kid yourself - there are a lot of non religious homophobes, just like there are a lot of non religious bigots.

And I for one don't believe the statistic that blames blacks. I think their polling data is from a few specific areas.

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/props/map190000000008.html

Shasta County - 69.9% yes
Black persons - 1% (2006)

Tehama County - 72.7% yes
Black persons - 0.8% (2006)

Modoc County - 74.3% yes
Black persons - 0.8% (2006)

Were these heavily white areas that went heavily for prop 8 counted in the exit polls that are being used to blame the black man?

Contra Costa County - 55% no
Black persons - 9.5%

Alameda County - 61.9% no
Black persons - 13.7%

In case you are not aware - those two counties include Richmond, CA and Oakland, CA which have some of the bigger black communities in the state.

Those counties went against Prop 8 significantly.

Use your brain, stop blaming the black man.
It wasn't his fault.

Statistics are easy to abuse and apply in ways they should not be applied.

Honestly, I think this speaks more to the incompetence of the No on 8 campaign than anything else. They should have been pushing the "Obama opposes 8" message from the moment he said it. Instead, they let the Yes campaign use Obama's image in a mailer in the final weeks of the campaign and came out with the Samuel L. Jackson ad days before election day. No on 8 spent too much time reacting to Yes on 8's narrative instead of controlling it themselves.

Wow, such venom and hate from the tolerant left as usual. SO your only proud and happy with Black people as long as they vote your way? THAT's progressive?

Your liberal elitism and arrogance will be why the Democrats ultimately lose it all in 4 years, you can't tolerate the views of the little people too dumb to care for themselves so your Big Daddy Government will save us all. Pathetic.

Wait, wait, wasn't elitism and arrogance supposed to be the reasons why McCain was supposed to win the election?

What in the McShit are you talking about?

What I find odd is that in the state of California marriage between cousins is perfectly legal, yet same sex marriage is not! WTF?!

Hey now - my cousin is a hottie!

Yes - I'm joking

It is not a valid and rational reason for voting yes on Prop. 8, but it is a valid and rational explanation for why so may black voters did so.

Also, it's true in general. African Americans tend to philosophically align with the Republican party. They tend to vote Democrat for other reasons.