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OhSoOrdinary

OhSoOrdinary

New York, NY
July 2006

OCT 25, 2008 01:03 PM

Apparently, there's some speculation within Republican circles.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue." A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off message several times, and they privately wonder if the incidents were deliberate.



I believe it's intentional.

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

OCT 25, 2008 01:05 PM

Rogue is the new Maverick.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

OCT 25, 2008 01:06 PM

Whether it's intentional or not, the answer is yes. The polling is undeniable. Moderates, Independents and women hate Sarah Palin and are flocking to the Democratic ticket as a result.

The failure on the part of the Republican base to understand what's going on here is what will (probably) be their undoing in the end.

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

OCT 25, 2008 01:10 PM

OhSoOrdinary said:
Apparently, there's some speculation within Republican circles.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue." A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off message several times, and they privately wonder if the incidents were deliberate.



I believe it's intentional.


So, you believe she's outmavericking the maverick?

Seriously, though ... I just think that she's in WAY over her head and can't handle the tasks that have been placed before her. The worst is that she seriously thinks that she IS ready, that she IS qualified, and that she's not the total laughingstock that she has become.

She doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer, don'tcha know.

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

OCT 25, 2008 01:13 PM

crispy said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
Apparently, there's some speculation within Republican circles.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue." A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off message several times, and they privately wonder if the incidents were deliberate.



I believe it's intentional.


So, you believe she's outmavericking the maverick?

Seriously, though ... I just think that she's in WAY over her head and can't handle the tasks that have been placed before her. The worst is that she seriously thinks that she IS ready, that she IS qualified, and that she's not the total laughingstock that she has become.

She doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer, don'tcha know.



I wonder how she'll handle the utter decimation on November 4th, 2008 and 2012.

OhSoOrdinary

OhSoOrdinary

New York, NY
July 2006

OCT 25, 2008 01:16 PM

It doesn't take a smart person to notice that she pulling in bigger crowd than McCain. Somethign like that can do a number on your ego.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

OCT 25, 2008 01:17 PM

crispy said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
Apparently, there's some speculation within Republican circles.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue." A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off message several times, and they privately wonder if the incidents were deliberate.



I believe it's intentional.


So, you believe she's outmavericking the maverick?

Seriously, though ... I just think that she's in WAY over her head and can't handle the tasks that have been placed before her. The worst is that she seriously thinks that she IS ready, that she IS qualified, and that she's not the total laughingstock that she has become.

She doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer, don'tcha know.



Denial, not just a river in Egypt, donchaknow.

Bill_the_Cat

Bill_the_Cat

Vanier, ON
May 2005

OCT 25, 2008 01:20 PM

OhSoOrdinary said:
It doesn't take a smart person to notice that she pulling in bigger crowd than McCain. Somethign like that can do a number on your ego.



It does take a smart person to realize that they're showing up just to see what garbage you spew next.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

OCT 25, 2008 01:20 PM

MisterInactive said:

crispy said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
Apparently, there's some speculation within Republican circles.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue." A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off message several times, and they privately wonder if the incidents were deliberate.



I believe it's intentional.


So, you believe she's outmavericking the maverick?

Seriously, though ... I just think that she's in WAY over her head and can't handle the tasks that have been placed before her. The worst is that she seriously thinks that she IS ready, that she IS qualified, and that she's not the total laughingstock that she has become.

She doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer, don'tcha know.



I wonder how she'll handle the utter decimation on November 4th, 2008 and 2012.



In her mind and the minds of the delusional base they will think it's not her fault. That the reason they get crushed (if/when it happens) will be because McCain is a phony conservative and that he didn't bring up Ayers and Wright (and Satan) enough. It will be because McCain didn't let Sarah do her barracuda routine enough.

Political reality means nothing to these people. The polls that say that people undoubtedly do not want to hear about Ayers and hate Palin just don't exist because THEY love her just SO MUCH that they cannot fathom why others don't. It's really amazing.

AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

OCT 25, 2008 01:21 PM

Subrosa said:
Whether it's intentional or not, the answer is yes. The polling is undeniable. Moderates, Independents and women hate Sarah Palin and are flocking to the Democratic ticket as a result.

The failure on the part of the Republican base to understand what's going on here is what will (probably) be their undoing in the end.


It's a gimmick that everyone saw as a gimmick and has backfired on the campaign so badly that it's cost them the election.

But would you expect any less from a pair of mavericks?

abbazappa

abbazappa

Sacramento, CA
June 2006

OCT 25, 2008 01:28 PM

OhSoOrdinary said:
Apparently, there's some speculation within Republican circles.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue." A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off message several times, and they privately wonder if the incidents were deliberate.



I believe it's intentional.


Well she is correct that the McCain campaign did mismanage her step to the national spot light and it has been damaging. So I can understand her deciding to try to salvage what she can since even the McCain campaign knows they have lost. And the McCain campaign lost because they themselves have been mismanaged and have no clear message or plan.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

OCT 25, 2008 01:32 PM

abbazappa said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
Apparently, there's some speculation within Republican circles.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue." A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off message several times, and they privately wonder if the incidents were deliberate.



I believe it's intentional.


Well she is correct that the McCain campaign did mismanage her step to the national spot light and it has been damaging. So I can understand her deciding to try to salvage what she can since even the McCain campaign knows they have lost. And the McCain campaign lost because they themselves have been mismanaged and have no clear message or plan.


A huge, huge part of that mismanagement was picking Palin.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

OCT 25, 2008 01:37 PM

Palin is today in Iowa, campaigning. McCain is down double-digits in Iowa and has been virtually the entire year.

Think there's another reason why she's there? Maybe? Iowa?

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

OCT 25, 2008 01:52 PM

Well, she doesn't have anything to lose, does she? It's not as though McCain has any serious chance of winning.

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

OCT 25, 2008 02:08 PM

bald_eagle said:

abbazappa said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
Apparently, there's some speculation within Republican circles.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue." A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off message several times, and they privately wonder if the incidents were deliberate.



I believe it's intentional.


Well she is correct that the McCain campaign did mismanage her step to the national spot light and it has been damaging. So I can understand her deciding to try to salvage what she can since even the McCain campaign knows they have lost. And the McCain campaign lost because they themselves have been mismanaged and have no clear message or plan.


Bull. Her roll-out was extremely well handled. She was the darling of the campaign for a week or so, and McCain briefly took the lead in the polls.

Then two things happened. First and foremost, she started opening her mouth. It didn't take long for people to see how stupid she is, and how radical her right-wing views are.

The other thing is that the press began reporting various things. There was Troopergate, and the little problems with her tenure as Alaska's governor, and the outrageous expense of her clothes and makeup.

Other than the blunder of picking her in the first place, McCain isn't responsible for those things.


He is responsible for not properly vetting her, though.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

OCT 25, 2008 02:12 PM

crispy said:

bald_eagle said:

abbazappa said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
Apparently, there's some speculation within Republican circles.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue." A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off message several times, and they privately wonder if the incidents were deliberate.



I believe it's intentional.


Well she is correct that the McCain campaign did mismanage her step to the national spot light and it has been damaging. So I can understand her deciding to try to salvage what she can since even the McCain campaign knows they have lost. And the McCain campaign lost because they themselves have been mismanaged and have no clear message or plan.


Bull. Her roll-out was extremely well handled. She was the darling of the campaign for a week or so, and McCain briefly took the lead in the polls.

Then two things happened. First and foremost, she started opening her mouth. It didn't take long for people to see how stupid she is, and how radical her right-wing views are.

The other thing is that the press began reporting various things. There was Troopergate, and the little problems with her tenure as Alaska's governor, and the outrageous expense of her clothes and makeup.

Other than the blunder of picking her in the first place, McCain isn't responsible for those things.


He is responsible for not properly vetting her, though.



Indeed.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

OCT 25, 2008 02:15 PM

Yes. If AP journos can find it, political operators should be able to.

s5

s5

STAFF

San Francisco, CA

OCT 25, 2008 02:40 PM

Subrosa said:
Palin is today in Iowa, campaigning. McCain is down double-digits in Iowa and has been virtually the entire year.

Think there's another reason why she's there? Maybe? Iowa?



I hear they have some crazy "caucus" thing there every few years.

goatboy23

goatboy23

Vatican City
November 2003

OCT 25, 2008 03:16 PM

MisterInactive said:
Rogue is the new Maverick.



Wait. What?

zoom image

goatboy23

goatboy23

Vatican City
November 2003

OCT 25, 2008 03:18 PM

I would love it if she's the nominee in 2012, giving us a total cakewalk.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

OCT 25, 2008 03:18 PM

goatboy23 said:

MisterInactive said:
Rogue is the new Maverick.



Wait. What?

zoom image


man, the new Top Gun is gonna rock.

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

OCT 25, 2008 03:22 PM

goatboy23 said:
I would love it if she's the nominee in 2012, giving us a total cakewalk.




Don't be so sure. wink

sick

sick

Minneapolis, MN
June 2003

OCT 25, 2008 03:28 PM

Who needs sabotage, when you have photos like this?

Katieesq

Katieesq

USA
June 2008

OCT 25, 2008 03:36 PM

s5 said:

Subrosa said:
Palin is today in Iowa, campaigning. McCain is down double-digits in Iowa and has been virtually the entire year.

Think there's another reason why she's there? Maybe? Iowa?



I hear they have some crazy "caucus" thing there every few years.



Or that crazy Republican straw poll doohickey.

On another note, it will be interesting to see how Palin's premature exposure to the national stage will play out in future elections. It would take a lot to slough off her reputation as a joke, but it's not impossible. And though I think we can all see the potential for Obama's two-term presidency, who knows what the next 4 years will do to change the political milieu.

I am also somewhat concerned that Palin's rogue attitude might have its appeal to moderate and conservative voter in 4-8 years. If Obama is able to weather this economic crisis, plan withdrawal of Iraq, and begin to develop a national health care plan, which would subsequently stabilize our nation, secondary issues (eg, social issues like abortion and gay marriage) might play a more significant role in deciding the next president. Think about the political climate post-Clinton - the major issues were social security and education, and the American people (with a little help from the Supreme Court) thought George Bush would be best equipped to deal with these issues. If we return to a political climate in which we aren't mired in critical situations like war and economic crisis, will American voters again choose a conservative, populist president?

wenis

wenis

San Francisco, CA
July 2006

OCT 25, 2008 03:42 PM

sarah palin is the wild card....



I can't wait to see some kind of flow chart of mccains campaign covering everything from his high point to now. it must look loopy.

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