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petepolly

petepolly

Antarctica
August 2008

OCT 21, 2008 10:11 PM

reference

Real Clear Politics Shows a broad trend of Nader & Barr climbing in the polls



Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Nader (I) Barr (L) Spread

NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 10/17 - 10/20 1159 RV 50 39 3 2 Obama +11
CNN/Opinion Research 10/17 - 10/19 764 LV 49 43 3 2 Obama +6
Democracy Corps (D) 10/15 - 10/19 1000 LV 49 44 3 2 Obama +5
LA Times/Bloomberg 10/10 - 10/13 1030 LV 47 39 3 1 Obama +8
CBS News/NY Times 10/10 - 10/13 699 LV 51 39 3 1 Obama +12
Democracy Corps (D) 10/08 - 10/12 1000 LV 50 40 2 3 Obama +10
Gallup 10/03 - 10/05 926 RV 48 42 2 1 Obama +6
CNN 10/03 - 10/05 694 LV 53 42 2 2 Obama +11
Democracy Corps (D) 10/01 - 10/05 1000 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama +3
Associated Press-GfK 09/27 - 09/30 808 LV 48 41 2 1 Obama +7
Democracy Corps (D) 09/28 - 09/30 1000 LV 49 45 2 1 Obama +4
ABC News/Wash Post 09/27 - 09/29 916 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama +3
Ipsos/McClatchy 09/26 - 09/29 1007 RV 46 42 2 1 Obama +4
Democracy Corps (D) 09/22 - 09/24 1007 LV 47 44 2 2 Obama +3



The last time the Libertarian party actually cleared 1% of the total vote was in 1980, and with things going as they are I expect that all third parties will do well this year.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

OCT 21, 2008 10:14 PM

petepolly said:
rederence

Real Clear Politics Shows a broad trend of Nader & Barr climbing in the polls



Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Nader (I) Barr (L) Spread

NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 10/17 - 10/20 1159 RV 50 39 3 2 Obama 11
CNN/Opinion Research 10/17 - 10/19 764 LV 49 43 3 2 Obama 6
Democracy Corps (D) 10/15 - 10/19 1000 LV 49 44 3 2 Obama 5
LA Times/Bloomberg 10/10 - 10/13 1030 LV 47 39 3 1 Obama 8
CBS News/NY Times 10/10 - 10/13 699 LV 51 39 3 1 Obama 12
Democracy Corps (D) 10/08 - 10/12 1000 LV 50 40 2 3 Obama 10
Gallup 10/03 - 10/05 926 RV 48 42 2 1 Obama 6
CNN 10/03 - 10/05 694 LV 53 42 2 2 Obama 11
Democracy Corps (D) 10/01 - 10/05 1000 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama 3
Associated Press-GfK 09/27 - 09/30 808 LV 48 41 2 1 Obama 7
Democracy Corps (D) 09/28 - 09/30 1000 LV 49 45 2 1 Obama 4
ABC News/Wash Post 09/27 - 09/29 916 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama 3
Ipsos/McClatchy 09/26 - 09/29 1007 RV 46 42 2 1 Obama 4
Democracy Corps (D) 09/22 - 09/24 1007 LV 47 44 2 2 Obama 3



The last time the Libertarian party actually cleared 1% of the total vote was in 1980, and with things going as they are I expect that all third parties will do well this year.



Umm, your chart really doesn't show anything. The only name mentioned is Obama's. And what is a "rederence"?

atomicant

atomicant

Portland, OR
June 2003

OCT 21, 2008 10:15 PM

so they are only slightly less insignificant now? awesome.

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

OCT 21, 2008 10:18 PM

Coyotemike said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

petepolly said:
rederence

Real Clear Politics Shows a broad trend of Nader & Barr climbing in the polls



Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Nader (I) Barr (L) Spread

NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 10/17 - 10/20 1159 RV 50 39 3 2 Obama 11
CNN/Opinion Research 10/17 - 10/19 764 LV 49 43 3 2 Obama 6
Democracy Corps (D) 10/15 - 10/19 1000 LV 49 44 3 2 Obama 5
LA Times/Bloomberg 10/10 - 10/13 1030 LV 47 39 3 1 Obama 8
CBS News/NY Times 10/10 - 10/13 699 LV 51 39 3 1 Obama 12
Democracy Corps (D) 10/08 - 10/12 1000 LV 50 40 2 3 Obama 10
Gallup 10/03 - 10/05 926 RV 48 42 2 1 Obama 6
CNN 10/03 - 10/05 694 LV 53 42 2 2 Obama 11
Democracy Corps (D) 10/01 - 10/05 1000 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama 3
Associated Press-GfK 09/27 - 09/30 808 LV 48 41 2 1 Obama 7
Democracy Corps (D) 09/28 - 09/30 1000 LV 49 45 2 1 Obama 4
ABC News/Wash Post 09/27 - 09/29 916 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama 3
Ipsos/McClatchy 09/26 - 09/29 1007 RV 46 42 2 1 Obama 4
Democracy Corps (D) 09/22 - 09/24 1007 LV 47 44 2 2 Obama 3



The last time the Libertarian party actually cleared 1% of the total vote was in 1980, and with things going as they are I expect that all third parties will do well this year.



Umm, your chart really doesn't show anything. The only name mentioned is Obama's. And what is a "rederence"?


The numbers after the LV or RV are the percentage breakdown by party.
D then R then I then L.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

OCT 21, 2008 10:19 PM

crispy said:

Coyotemike said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

petepolly said:
rederence

Real Clear Politics Shows a broad trend of Nader & Barr climbing in the polls



Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Nader (I) Barr (L) Spread

NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 10/17 - 10/20 1159 RV 50 39 3 2 Obama 11
CNN/Opinion Research 10/17 - 10/19 764 LV 49 43 3 2 Obama 6
Democracy Corps (D) 10/15 - 10/19 1000 LV 49 44 3 2 Obama 5
LA Times/Bloomberg 10/10 - 10/13 1030 LV 47 39 3 1 Obama 8
CBS News/NY Times 10/10 - 10/13 699 LV 51 39 3 1 Obama 12
Democracy Corps (D) 10/08 - 10/12 1000 LV 50 40 2 3 Obama 10
Gallup 10/03 - 10/05 926 RV 48 42 2 1 Obama 6
CNN 10/03 - 10/05 694 LV 53 42 2 2 Obama 11
Democracy Corps (D) 10/01 - 10/05 1000 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama 3
Associated Press-GfK 09/27 - 09/30 808 LV 48 41 2 1 Obama 7
Democracy Corps (D) 09/28 - 09/30 1000 LV 49 45 2 1 Obama 4
ABC News/Wash Post 09/27 - 09/29 916 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama 3
Ipsos/McClatchy 09/26 - 09/29 1007 RV 46 42 2 1 Obama 4
Democracy Corps (D) 09/22 - 09/24 1007 LV 47 44 2 2 Obama 3



The last time the Libertarian party actually cleared 1% of the total vote was in 1980, and with things going as they are I expect that all third parties will do well this year.



Umm, your chart really doesn't show anything. The only name mentioned is Obama's. And what is a "rederence"?


The numbers after the LV or RV are the percentage breakdown by party.
D then R then I then L.



Oooooooh . . . maybe a screenshot instead of a cut/paste would have helped my aged eyes make sense of it all.

petepolly

petepolly

Antarctica
August 2008

OCT 21, 2008 10:19 PM

Coyotemike said:

petepolly said:
rederence

Real Clear Politics Shows a broad trend of Nader & Barr climbing in the polls



Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Nader (I) Barr (L) Spread

NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 10/17 - 10/20 1159 RV 50 39 3 2 Obama 11
CNN/Opinion Research 10/17 - 10/19 764 LV 49 43 3 2 Obama 6
Democracy Corps (D) 10/15 - 10/19 1000 LV 49 44 3 2 Obama 5
LA Times/Bloomberg 10/10 - 10/13 1030 LV 47 39 3 1 Obama 8
CBS News/NY Times 10/10 - 10/13 699 LV 51 39 3 1 Obama 12
Democracy Corps (D) 10/08 - 10/12 1000 LV 50 40 2 3 Obama 10
Gallup 10/03 - 10/05 926 RV 48 42 2 1 Obama 6
CNN 10/03 - 10/05 694 LV 53 42 2 2 Obama 11
Democracy Corps (D) 10/01 - 10/05 1000 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama 3
Associated Press-GfK 09/27 - 09/30 808 LV 48 41 2 1 Obama 7
Democracy Corps (D) 09/28 - 09/30 1000 LV 49 45 2 1 Obama 4
ABC News/Wash Post 09/27 - 09/29 916 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama 3
Ipsos/McClatchy 09/26 - 09/29 1007 RV 46 42 2 1 Obama 4
Democracy Corps (D) 09/22 - 09/24 1007 LV 47 44 2 2 Obama 3



The last time the Libertarian party actually cleared 1% of the total vote was in 1980, and with things going as they are I expect that all third parties will do well this year.



Umm, your chart really doesn't show anything. The only name mentioned is Obama's. And what is a "rederence"?



It show Nader clearly climbing in the polls, he was early getting ~2%, now getting consistent 3%, and Barr is getting a pretty consistent 2%, while the best ever done on a national level by an LP candidate was Ed Clark in 1980 at just over 1%, also Barr has climbed from mid summer at under 1%.



skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

OCT 21, 2008 10:33 PM

OHMYGOD, Stop the Presses !

Barr has doubled his take in the polls!
From 1% all the way to 2%

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

OCT 21, 2008 10:43 PM

skeptik said:
OHMYGOD, Stop the Presses !

Barr has doubled his take in the polls!
From 1% all the way to 2%



It's just like the McCain surge, except for the fact that it's actually real.

Insignificant, but real. Hooray! Let's all have cake!

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

OCT 21, 2008 10:52 PM

petepolly said:
It show Nader clearly climbing in the polls, he was early getting ~2%, now getting consistent 3%, and Barr is getting a pretty consistent 2%, while the best ever done on a national level by an LP candidate was Ed Clark in 1980 at just over 1%, also Barr has climbed from mid summer at under 1%.


At this rate, if they keep tacking on a percentage point every 28 years, by the year 2232 they'll be up to 10%!!!

And maybe by then I'll have my damn flying car.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

OCT 21, 2008 11:05 PM

crispy said:

Coyotemike said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

petepolly said:
rederence

Real Clear Politics Shows a broad trend of Nader & Barr climbing in the polls



Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Nader (I) Barr (L) Spread

NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 10/17 - 10/20 1159 RV 50 39 3 2 Obama 11
CNN/Opinion Research 10/17 - 10/19 764 LV 49 43 3 2 Obama 6
Democracy Corps (D) 10/15 - 10/19 1000 LV 49 44 3 2 Obama 5
LA Times/Bloomberg 10/10 - 10/13 1030 LV 47 39 3 1 Obama 8
CBS News/NY Times 10/10 - 10/13 699 LV 51 39 3 1 Obama 12
Democracy Corps (D) 10/08 - 10/12 1000 LV 50 40 2 3 Obama 10
Gallup 10/03 - 10/05 926 RV 48 42 2 1 Obama 6
CNN 10/03 - 10/05 694 LV 53 42 2 2 Obama 11
Democracy Corps (D) 10/01 - 10/05 1000 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama 3
Associated Press-GfK 09/27 - 09/30 808 LV 48 41 2 1 Obama 7
Democracy Corps (D) 09/28 - 09/30 1000 LV 49 45 2 1 Obama 4
ABC News/Wash Post 09/27 - 09/29 916 LV 48 45 3 2 Obama 3
Ipsos/McClatchy 09/26 - 09/29 1007 RV 46 42 2 1 Obama 4
Democracy Corps (D) 09/22 - 09/24 1007 LV 47 44 2 2 Obama 3



The last time the Libertarian party actually cleared 1% of the total vote was in 1980, and with things going as they are I expect that all third parties will do well this year.



Umm, your chart really doesn't show anything. The only name mentioned is Obama's. And what is a "rederence"?


The numbers after the LV or RV are the percentage breakdown by party.
D then R then I then L.


*Head-desk*
LV is "Likely Voters" (Polling data tends to favor Republicans)
RV is "Registered Voters" (Polling data tends to favor Democrats)

atomicant

atomicant

Portland, OR
June 2003

OCT 22, 2008 12:38 AM

if nader wins, i will give you ONE MILLION DOLLARS, petepolly.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

OCT 22, 2008 12:44 AM

Subrosa said:

skeptik said:
OHMYGOD, Stop the Presses !

Barr has doubled his take in the polls!
From 1% all the way to 2%



It's just like the McCain surge, except for the fact that it's actually real.

Insignificant, but real. Hooray! Let's all have cake!



cheese is better.

i like cheese.

in fact, i just had some wonderful cheese earlier this evening. i have witnesses to this.

mogwai_

mogwai_

USA
February 2008

OCT 22, 2008 01:07 AM

scylis said:

Subrosa said:

skeptik said:
OHMYGOD, Stop the Presses !

Barr has doubled his take in the polls!
From 1% all the way to 2%



It's just like the McCain surge, except for the fact that it's actually real.

Insignificant, but real. Hooray! Let's all have cake!



cheese is better.

i like cheese.

in fact, i just had some wonderful cheese earlier this evening. i have witnesses to this.



1) the cake is a lie
2) come on scylis you know the rule: pics or it didn't happen

Squire

Squire

I'm lost
November 2003

OCT 22, 2008 01:08 AM

scylis said:

Subrosa said:

skeptik said:
OHMYGOD, Stop the Presses !

Barr has doubled his take in the polls!
From 1% all the way to 2%



It's just like the McCain surge, except for the fact that it's actually real.

Insignificant, but real. Hooray! Let's all have cake!



cheese is better.

i like cheese.

in fact, i just had some wonderful cheese earlier this evening. i have witnesses to this.



You know nothing of wonderful cheese.

mogwai_

mogwai_

USA
February 2008

OCT 22, 2008 01:08 AM

hmmm...

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

OCT 22, 2008 01:13 AM

Squire said:

scylis said:

Subrosa said:

skeptik said:
OHMYGOD, Stop the Presses !

Barr has doubled his take in the polls!
From 1% all the way to 2%



It's just like the McCain surge, except for the fact that it's actually real.

Insignificant, but real. Hooray! Let's all have cake!



cheese is better.

i like cheese.

in fact, i just had some wonderful cheese earlier this evening. i have witnesses to this.



You know nothing of wonderful cheese.



you know nothing of my knowledge of fine cheese.

abbazappa

abbazappa

Sacramento, CA
June 2006

OCT 22, 2008 01:22 AM

scylis said:

Squire said:

scylis said:

Subrosa said:

skeptik said:
OHMYGOD, Stop the Presses !

Barr has doubled his take in the polls!
From 1% all the way to 2%



It's just like the McCain surge, except for the fact that it's actually real.

Insignificant, but real. Hooray! Let's all have cake!



cheese is better.

i like cheese.

in fact, i just had some wonderful cheese earlier this evening. i have witnesses to this.



You know nothing of wonderful cheese.



you know nothing of my knowledge of fine cheese.


lets compromise people and settle on Cheese Cake. ooo aaa

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

OCT 22, 2008 01:22 AM

casper_ said:

scylis said:

Subrosa said:

skeptik said:
OHMYGOD, Stop the Presses !

Barr has doubled his take in the polls!
From 1% all the way to 2%



It's just like the McCain surge, except for the fact that it's actually real.

Insignificant, but real. Hooray! Let's all have cake!



cheese is better.

i like cheese.

in fact, i just had some wonderful cheese earlier this evening. i have witnesses to this.



1) the cake is a lie
2) come on scylis you know the rule: pics or it didn't happen



neither i nor shirt_weiner managed to capture our glorious repast in a visual format for posterity, and we and our company were too preoccupied with consuming our glorious repast.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 22, 2008 01:50 AM

None of this makes Ron Paul any less of a loser.

abbazappa

abbazappa

Sacramento, CA
June 2006

OCT 22, 2008 01:55 AM

FearTheReaper said:
None of this makes Ron Paul any less of a loser.


who mentioned Ron Paul?

Squire

Squire

I'm lost
November 2003

OCT 22, 2008 02:00 AM

abbazappa said:

scylis said:

Squire said:

scylis said:

Subrosa said:

skeptik said:
OHMYGOD, Stop the Presses !

Barr has doubled his take in the polls!
From 1% all the way to 2%



It's just like the McCain surge, except for the fact that it's actually real.

Insignificant, but real. Hooray! Let's all have cake!



cheese is better.

i like cheese.

in fact, i just had some wonderful cheese earlier this evening. i have witnesses to this.



You know nothing of wonderful cheese.



you know nothing of my knowledge of fine cheese.


lets compromise people and settle on Cheese Cake. ooo aaa



Agreed.

Squire

Squire

I'm lost
November 2003

OCT 22, 2008 02:00 AM

abbazappa said:

scylis said:

Squire said:

scylis said:

Subrosa said:

skeptik said:
OHMYGOD, Stop the Presses !

Barr has doubled his take in the polls!
From 1% all the way to 2%



It's just like the McCain surge, except for the fact that it's actually real.

Insignificant, but real. Hooray! Let's all have cake!



cheese is better.

i like cheese.

in fact, i just had some wonderful cheese earlier this evening. i have witnesses to this.



You know nothing of wonderful cheese.



you know nothing of my knowledge of fine cheese.


lets compromise people and settle on Cheese Cake. ooo aaa



Agreed.

Squire

Squire

I'm lost
November 2003

OCT 22, 2008 02:01 AM

abbazappa said:

scylis said:

Squire said:

scylis said:

Subrosa said:

skeptik said:
OHMYGOD, Stop the Presses !

Barr has doubled his take in the polls!
From 1% all the way to 2%



It's just like the McCain surge, except for the fact that it's actually real.

Insignificant, but real. Hooray! Let's all have cake!



cheese is better.

i like cheese.

in fact, i just had some wonderful cheese earlier this evening. i have witnesses to this.



You know nothing of wonderful cheese.



you know nothing of my knowledge of fine cheese.


lets compromise people and settle on Cheese Cake. ooo aaa



Agreed.

Squire

Squire

I'm lost
November 2003

OCT 22, 2008 02:02 AM

Jesus that's alot of posts.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 22, 2008 02:25 AM

abbazappa said:

FearTheReaper said:
None of this makes Ron Paul any less of a loser.


who mentioned Ron Paul?



I did. Seems pretty self explanatory.

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