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Jace

Jace

San Francisco, CA
February 2004

OCT 20, 2008 05:50 PM

This is fantastic. This is wonderful. This guy's name is Daniel Zubiari. Watch this video:



Say what you want about republicans; this guy is a-okay.

If you want to hear the shit that the anti-Islamic supporter was spewing, hear more of Daniel Zubairi's comments about it, and hear some wonderful McCain supporters voice their opinions about that guy and what he's saying, go here (the video can't be embedded).

joker_

joker_

Minneapolis, MN
October 2005

OCT 20, 2008 06:09 PM

I read through and watched the videos. Is it just me or does it appear to be orchestrated as a response to Colin Powell's statements?

Probably is just me.

GrayRains

GrayRains

Twin Lake, MI
January 2008

OCT 20, 2008 06:11 PM

HAHA! HAHAHA! You know... this really just is NOT FUNNY but I find myself laughing anyways.

I love how that scumbag didn't even have the courage to give his name, what a spineless bastard.

Fixer

Fixer

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

OCT 20, 2008 06:12 PM

if only this were the norm for political parties these days...

AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

OCT 20, 2008 06:29 PM

Of course they won't let him talk to CNN, the McCain campaign was shitting bricks at the thought of seeming pro-Islam.

leopold

leopold

Oakland, CA
January 2005

OCT 20, 2008 06:43 PM

oh this was so perfect

phrogg

phrogg

Greenville, SC
August 2005

OCT 20, 2008 06:50 PM

Daniel should dump McCain and vote for Obama.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

OCT 20, 2008 07:14 PM

Finally, the last holdouts within the McCain campaign have started to speak out against the very individuals that have been attracted to his hate fest. Its just a matter of time before they begin to fragment off his tail spin of a campaign.

The thread may have been have been missed by most, but this story was broken earlier by OhSoOrdinary.

CE Thread: McCain has been marginalized.

gdarklighter

gdarklighter

San Diego, CA
August 2005

OCT 20, 2008 07:26 PM

That anchor is an idiot. This wasn't heroic behavior, it was common decency.

AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

OCT 21, 2008 02:39 AM

Rick Sanchez is a tool, but not for that segment. You can feel free to find some of his stupider stunts on YouTube. He's also been the butt of jokes on The Daily Show.

I actually grew up watching this guy, he was the WSVN news anchor in Miami. Even then he worked for the most sensationalistic network on local television.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

OCT 21, 2008 02:46 AM

We should have a cage match with Joe The Plumber and this guy.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

OCT 21, 2008 02:54 AM

joker_ said:
I read through and watched the videos. Is it just me or does it appear to be orchestrated as a response to Colin Powell's statements?

Probably is just me.


That was my first thought, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Even if it was a stunt, it sends the right message.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

OCT 21, 2008 02:54 AM

AceT said:
Rick Sanchez is a tool, but not for that segment. You can feel free to find some of his stupider stunts on YouTube. He's also been the butt of jokes on The Daily Show.

I actually grew up watching this guy, he was the WSVN news anchor in Miami. Even then he worked for the most sensationalistic network on local television.


At least he's not as bad as Glenn Beck, he's what happens when "Joe The Plummer" gets his own radio show, granted, anyone can be an idiot and an asshole. The reaction at the McCain event does seem to come off like a bit of fluff for the media (so stop showing those darned Palin rally videos already wink ).

Honestly though, I don't think it was staged, but you can decide for yourself. Here's the full video, not CNN's watered-down version:

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

OCT 21, 2008 03:27 AM

I like how around 2:18, the woman who's part of the anti-Muslim & Socialism group says she's afraid of saying anything on camera because she knows how the media distorts things... That didn't make it into the CNN clip. There's even a supporter who yells after the departing agitators saying "are you deliberately trying to lose us this election or is it coincidental?" I wish that had ended up on CNN as well. Oh, and the answer is yes, it is conincidental. biggrin

McCain's free-for-all smear campaign against Obama is so convoluted and out of control it has become difficult for McCain to stay on message with just the Ayers one while everyone else has piled on their own particular flavor of repugnant filth. I guess you can't take a campaign into the mud and expect not to get any on yourself, but its even worse when your supporters and your political party are slinging even more over your head then you can handle. This bit of damage control may be good for the cameras but not for the campaign, it's too late for that and McCain won't change direction; his vapid campaign will continue to be mired in stagnant pile of shit he and his supporters created and they deserve to lose.

Ridley

Ridley

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

OCT 21, 2008 05:11 AM

I love how the racist guy asks the camera guy if he is Muslim. When the camera man says no he's all "really? What are you?"

Hilarious. It's as if he couldn't fathom him not being one.

OhSoOrdinary

OhSoOrdinary

New York, NY
July 2006

OCT 21, 2008 05:43 AM

bean said:

joker_ said:
I read through and watched the videos. Is it just me or does it appear to be orchestrated as a response to Colin Powell's statements?

Probably is just me.


That was my first thought, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Even if it was a stunt, it sends the right message.



I saw that on CNN and they interviewed the guy who filmed it. He said that he was threer for a completely different purpose and that what happened just sort of happened.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

OCT 21, 2008 06:54 AM

gdarklighter said:
That anchor is an idiot. This wasn't heroic behavior, it was common decency.


in a milieu where compassion and tolerance are all but non-existent, common decency is pretty heroic.

Jace

Jace

San Francisco, CA
February 2004

OCT 21, 2008 03:10 PM

Oh, awesome. Someone finally got the full version on YouTube. When I posted the thread that wasn't available.

EDIT:

motorfirebox said:

gdarklighter said:
That anchor is an idiot. This wasn't heroic behavior, it was common decency.


in a milieu where compassion and tolerance are all but non-existent, common decency is pretty heroic.


+1

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

OCT 21, 2008 04:08 PM

gdarklighter said:
That anchor is an idiot. This wasn't heroic behavior, it was common decency.



QFT.

gdarklighter

gdarklighter

San Diego, CA
August 2005

OCT 21, 2008 07:14 PM

motorfirebox said:

gdarklighter said:
That anchor is an idiot. This wasn't heroic behavior, it was common decency.


in a milieu where compassion and tolerance are all but non-existent, common decency is pretty heroic.


That's like saying people should be rewarded for not stealing candy from babies.

Ferretbite

Ferretbite

Mexico
September 2006

OCT 22, 2008 01:15 PM

gdarklighter said:

motorfirebox said:

gdarklighter said:
That anchor is an idiot. This wasn't heroic behavior, it was common decency.


in a milieu where compassion and tolerance are all but non-existent, common decency is pretty heroic.


That's like saying people should be rewarded for not stealing candy from babies.



Everyone's a hero in their own way.

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motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

OCT 22, 2008 01:26 PM

gdarklighter said:

motorfirebox said:

gdarklighter said:
That anchor is an idiot. This wasn't heroic behavior, it was common decency.


in a milieu where compassion and tolerance are all but non-existent, common decency is pretty heroic.


That's like saying people should be rewarded for not stealing candy from babies.


well, if lots of other people are stealing candy from babies, and much of the public voices support for stealing candy from babies, then yes--people should be rewarded for not stealing candy from babies.

there is a lot of pressure among conservatives to act racist, simply through virtue of the fact that there are so many vocally racist conservatives. i think people who resist that pressure ought to be applauded.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

OCT 22, 2008 01:43 PM

I like the "white Christian McCain supporter" who stepped in and voiced his opposition and then started applauding when the guy fucked off.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

OCT 22, 2008 01:50 PM

i forgot to add why they should be applauded. whether or not it's actually heroic, i think it should be applauded for the purpose of creating counterpressure against racist conservatism. the more public opinion sways against racism, the less vocal most racists will be, and the less influence they will have on both the current generation and future generations.

Accuser

Accuser

Scottsdale, AZ
October 2006

OCT 22, 2008 02:17 PM

It takes guts to stand up against your own group, no matter the type of group in question - particularly in a face to face scenario. He should be commended for taking the risk - keep in mind that McCain was booed by his own people for suggesting that Obama could be a decent human being. This guy has dark skin and identified himself as a Muslim in front of a group that obviously has a lot of hatred for Muslims and, we can pretty confidently infer, a lot of mistrust for dark-skinned people.

He potentially risked his physical health, certainly risked his position with the campaign, and likely risked a number of professional and social contacts he has made through the course of his career. He took a gamble that people would see what's right from what's wrong, which is no guarantee lately, and that he wouldn't be encountered with headlines of "MCCAIN CAMP SYMPATHETIC TOWARDS ISLAMOFACISM" the next morning.

He could've just asked the reasonable people to step away with him, explained privately that the campaign doesn't support that behavior and sent them on their way. That would've been the political move - basically not making a stand, just appeasing people barely enough that they're still likely to vote for your side. Instead, he chose to publicly confront the demonstrators and potentially lose votes from everyone who has such idiotic views. Idiots get votes.

His move wasn't political or common. At fairly substantial risk he stood up for what's right. Maybe heroic is hyperbolic, but brave certainly applies.

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