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shirt_weiner

shirt_weiner

Santa Monica, CA
December 2007

JUN 16, 2008 02:02 PM



Over the next four years, we are going to face many difficult challenges -- including bringing our troops home from Iraq, fixing our economy, and solving the climate crisis. Barack Obama is clearly the candidate best able to solve these problems and bring change to America.



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bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

JUN 16, 2008 02:15 PM

Al Gore for EPA administrator, plz.

Mr_Matt_

Mr_Matt_

Hollywood, FL
July 2005

JUN 16, 2008 02:17 PM

Wow, he really went out on a limb with such a timely decision.

Darke

Darke

Trego, WI
June 2005

JUN 16, 2008 02:21 PM

Mr_Matt_ said:
Wow, he really went out on a limb with such a timely decision.



+1

That's why Gore wasn't President. no balls. (that and the whole corrupt Florida election thing, of course)

bunky

bunky

Rensselaer, NY
January 2007

JUN 16, 2008 02:34 PM

Man, your fast, I just received the email from the Obama campaign.

scylis

scylis

Anchorage, AK
November 2004

JUN 16, 2008 03:13 PM

Mr_Matt_ said:
Wow, he really went out on a limb with such a timely decision.



he's been busy. manbearpig doesn't just go away during an election year, you know.

shirt_weiner

shirt_weiner

Santa Monica, CA
December 2007

JUN 16, 2008 03:14 PM

bunky said:
Man, your fast, I just received the email from the Obama campaign.



I have no life, and read a lot of political websites.

d20

d20

San Francisco, CA
September 2003

JUN 16, 2008 03:21 PM

scylis said:

Mr_Matt_ said:
Wow, he really went out on a limb with such a timely decision.



he's been busy. manbearpig doesn't just go away during an election year, you know.



Over the next four years, we are going to face many difficult challenges -- including bringing our troops home from Iraq, fixing our economy, and solving the climate crisis. Barack Obama is clearly the candidate best able to solve these problems and bring change to America. I'm suuuuuper serial about this you guys.

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

JUN 16, 2008 04:18 PM

This seems like as good a place as any to ask someone to explain manbearpig and super serial to me. Was South Park just making fun of concern over global warning?

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUN 16, 2008 04:21 PM

Hooraydiation said:
This seems like as good a place as any to ask someone to explain manbearpig and super serial to me. Was South Park just making fun of concern over global warning?



yes. its a really funny episode, but it gives assholes and idiots an easy way to socially take gore down a peg without using the brain. an idiot just needs to say

"im al gore! Im super seriel!" and the conversation will move past talking about dry global warming facts.

bald_eagle

bald_eagle

Indianapolis, IN
November 2006

JUN 16, 2008 06:44 PM

bean said:
Al Gore for EPA administrator, plz.



Yes! And it's time to make that a cabinet agency, as well.

DannyDMc

DannyDMc

Fargo, ND
July 2003

JUN 16, 2008 07:00 PM

Darke said:

Mr_Matt_ said:
Wow, he really went out on a limb with such a timely decision.



+1

That's why Gore wasn't President. no balls. (that and the whole corrupt Florida election thing, of course)



Before you damn someone, it might help to try to see things the way they do; the whole "walk a mile in someone else's shoes" business.

Al Gore got a lot of flack for making an early endorsement of Howard Dean, especially after Dean subsequently fell apart on the campaign trail a few weeks later. An incident like that is going to make nearly anyone take a deep breath before they make an endorsement.
Secondly, Gore's first and last concern right now is the environment. Seeing as how he has come to be identified so closely with the climate issue, it would be foolish to make an early endorsement before the contest was over; what if he had come out early and endorsed Obama, and then Clinton managed to gain the nomination? He was likely scared that, in such a case, that the candidate would refuse to listen to him.

Honestly, I can't blame him one bit for waiting in such a case.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

JUN 16, 2008 09:11 PM

Or maybe he just didn't care much either way.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

JUN 16, 2008 09:28 PM

Cigarette said:
Or maybe he just didn't care much either way.



That very well may be, but nevertheless, I don't fault him for that. Gore's endorsement comes at a time when the Democratic Party is shoring up support amongst its base and uniting behind its candidate, and it is valuable in that respect. A steady flow of high-profile endorsements is important to maintaining a positive narrative, and furthermore, candidate endorsements are not about betting on a winner, so I can't see the point in berating him for not endorsing earlier.

Holden_Caulfield

Holden_Caulfield

Ann Arbor, MI
April 2004

JUN 16, 2008 10:15 PM

Thank you Barack Obama and Al Gore for coming to Michigan.

We need you now more than ever.

smile

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

JUN 16, 2008 11:35 PM

bean said:

Cigarette said:
Or maybe he just didn't care much either way.



That very well may be, but nevertheless, I don't fault him for that. Gore's endorsement comes at a time when the Democratic Party is shoring up support amongst its base and uniting behind its candidate, and it is valuable in that respect. A steady flow of high-profile endorsements is important to maintaining a positive narrative, and furthermore, candidate endorsements are not about betting on a winner, so I can't see the point in berating him for not endorsing earlier.



While what you say is absolutely true Bean, Keith Olberman and Richard Wolfe, the brit commentator on MSNBC, were saying why use the word endorsement when it is sort of after the fact, and RW ultimately said "not exactly a profile in courage at this moment..."

People hungered for his endorsement despite all of his reasons, and people see his hesitance as a reason that he lost the election.

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

JUN 17, 2008 01:12 AM

Generally you will see ex-nominees wait till it's in the bag before they endorse anyone. Much like ex-Presidents. Bill gets a pass this time, of course, and Jimmy Carter kinda did his Jimmy Carter dance and all-but endorsed Obama for a while there.

Mr_Matt_

Mr_Matt_

Hollywood, FL
July 2005

JUN 17, 2008 05:19 AM

The LA Times wasn't impressed by his timing either.

doc_holiday

doc_holiday

Los Angeles, CA
June 2008

JUN 17, 2008 06:21 PM

Its just sad that the democratic party is still so divided and touchy, we have such a great chance to refresh the worldly image of America. I just hope untimely endorsements don't make us look too stupid.

shirt_weiner

shirt_weiner

Santa Monica, CA
December 2007

JUN 17, 2008 07:38 PM

doc_holiday said:
Its just sad that the democratic party is still so divided and touchy, we have such a great chance to refresh the worldly image of America. I just hope untimely endorsements don't make us look too stupid.



I don't see how this endorsement would make the party look stupid.

Having someone who has a great deal of knowledge and passion for climate change working closely with the Democratic Party candidate is going to be quite helpful in countering McCain's newfound caring for the environment.

Sure, coming out during the Primaries would have been better, but his support is helpful no matter what, IMO.

doc_holiday

doc_holiday

Los Angeles, CA
June 2008

JUN 17, 2008 08:02 PM

_Margot_ said:

doc_holiday said:
Its just sad that the democratic party is still so divided and touchy, we have such a great chance to refresh the worldly image of America. I just hope untimely endorsements don't make us look too stupid.



I don't see how this endorsement would make the party look stupid.

Having someone who has a great deal of knowledge and passion for climate change working closely with the Democratic Party candidate is going to be quite helpful in countering McCain's newfound caring for the environment.

Sure, coming out during the Primaries would have been better, but his support is helpful no matter what, IMO.



I just think it shows that many politicians in the democratic party are to afraid to stand up and say something when it really matters. If he would have made his endorsement 5 months ago it would have meant something. C'mon do you think he'd endorse McCain?

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

JUN 17, 2008 08:03 PM

You should look at the divisions in the Republican party sometime.

shirt_weiner

shirt_weiner

Santa Monica, CA
December 2007

JUN 17, 2008 08:05 PM

doc_holiday said:

_Margot_ said:

doc_holiday said:
Its just sad that the democratic party is still so divided and touchy, we have such a great chance to refresh the worldly image of America. I just hope untimely endorsements don't make us look too stupid.



I don't see how this endorsement would make the party look stupid.

Having someone who has a great deal of knowledge and passion for climate change working closely with the Democratic Party candidate is going to be quite helpful in countering McCain's newfound caring for the environment.

Sure, coming out during the Primaries would have been better, but his support is helpful no matter what, IMO.



I just think it shows that many politicians in the democratic party are to afraid to stand up and say something when it really matters. If he would have made his endorsement 5 months ago it would have meant something. C'mon do you think he'd endorse McCain?



No, I know what you are saying. But his endorsement no matter when it is has more meaning than let's say Barb Mikulski.


doc_holiday

doc_holiday

Los Angeles, CA
June 2008

JUN 17, 2008 08:13 PM

Hooraydiation said:
You should look at the divisions in the Republican party sometime.



Yes the Republican party can be very divided, but overall they stand much more united then the Democratic Party has in almost a decade.

shirt_weiner

shirt_weiner

Santa Monica, CA
December 2007

JUN 17, 2008 08:14 PM

doc_holiday said:

Hooraydiation said:
You should look at the divisions in the Republican party sometime.



Yes the Republican party can be very divided, but overall they stand much more united then the Democratic Party has in almost a decade.



I don't think so.

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