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slacker_elite

slacker_elite

Phoenix, AZ
January 2003

JUN 10, 2008 12:22 AM

You have to check this out:

ImVotingRepublican.com

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DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

JUN 10, 2008 12:30 AM

hahahahaaa!

awesome!

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

JUN 10, 2008 12:46 AM

It's hilarious, until you realize that's actually how some people think, even if they won't admit it.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

JUN 10, 2008 01:06 AM

bean said:
It's hilarious, until you realize that's actually how some people think, even if they won't admit it.



FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

JUN 10, 2008 01:24 AM

Nice find slacker elite. Thanks for posting. smile

Towelly

Towelly

Philadelphia, PA
January 2007

JUN 10, 2008 01:50 AM

scylis said:

bean said:
It's hilarious, until you realize that's actually how some people think, even if they won't admit it.





You still have the old English-to-Chinese-to-English translation!

I salute you.
/salute

GrayRains

GrayRains

Twin Lake, MI
January 2008

JUN 10, 2008 09:23 AM

Davy McCracken -Future Draftee

that bit scared me...

While it is amusing, it is also deeply disturbing.

LSlice

LSlice

Montclair, NJ
December 2007

JUN 10, 2008 12:29 PM

I actually agree with the FDA part.

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

JUN 10, 2008 12:38 PM

bean said:
It's hilarious, until you realize that's actually how some people think, even if they won't admit it.



I showed this to my mother and she nearly lost her lunch until I told her it wasn't real.

IDGAS

IDGAS

Jackson Heights, NY
March 2004

JUN 10, 2008 07:49 PM

And five posts after

bean said: It's hilarious, until you realize that's actually how some people think, even if they won't admit it.

We find this bit of wisdom stupidity

LSlice said: I actually agree with the FDA part.


Roethke

Roethke

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUN 10, 2008 08:36 PM

LSlice said:
I actually agree with the FDA part.



Wow, you never cease to astound me.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUN 10, 2008 08:46 PM

Roethke said:

LSlice said:
I actually agree with the FDA part.



Wow, you never cease to astound me.



LSlice: Always wrong for all the right reasons!

LSlice

LSlice

Montclair, NJ
December 2007

JUN 10, 2008 10:27 PM

On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

JUN 10, 2008 10:30 PM

LSlice said:
On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?



That would probably depend on the risks. Something like "grows hair on your back in the shape of a dildo", then that's not such a big deal. But if the risk is "if you take this drug, you will die, just not from your current disease/condition," well, then, probably not such a good idea.

LSlice

LSlice

Montclair, NJ
December 2007

JUN 10, 2008 10:32 PM

coyotemike said:

LSlice said:
On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?



That would probably depend on the risks. Something like "grows hair on your back in the shape of a dildo", then that's not such a big deal. But if the risk is "if you take this drug, you will die, just not from your current disease/condition," well, then, probably not such a good idea.




But shouldn't that be my choice to make?

Hypothetically: Let's say I have cancer. There's a promising treatment, but a 1 in 5 chance it will kill me. Why the hell does the governemnt get to make that decision for me?

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

JUN 10, 2008 10:36 PM

LSlice said:

coyotemike said:

LSlice said:
On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?



That would probably depend on the risks. Something like "grows hair on your back in the shape of a dildo", then that's not such a big deal. But if the risk is "if you take this drug, you will die, just not from your current disease/condition," well, then, probably not such a good idea.




But shouldn't that be my choice to make?

Hypothetically: Let's say I have cancer. There's a promising treatment, but a 1 in 5 chance it will kill me. Why the hell does the governemnt get to make that decision for me?



Because not everyone is competent to evaluate and understand complicated medical procedures.

EDIT: Also, in the situation you described, people do have recourse. In the FDA process, treatments and procedures are opened for trials. If patients are deemed that they will have a high likelihood of handling the treatment well, then they are allowed to participate in the trial.

The first rule of medicine is 'Do no harm'. Until a treatment is proven by a large volume of empirical data to be safe and effective, doctors are obligated to stick to tried and true methods of treatment.

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

JUN 10, 2008 10:38 PM

RudieCantFail said:

LSlice said:

coyotemike said:

LSlice said:
On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?



That would probably depend on the risks. Something like "grows hair on your back in the shape of a dildo", then that's not such a big deal. But if the risk is "if you take this drug, you will die, just not from your current disease/condition," well, then, probably not such a good idea.




But shouldn't that be my choice to make?

Hypothetically: Let's say I have cancer. There's a promising treatment, but a 1 in 5 chance it will kill me. Why the hell does the governemnt get to make that decision for me?



Because not everyone is competent to evaluate and understand complicated medical procedures.



And not all companies, as we've seen, are forthcoming with the information that it might kill you.

The FDA helps protect your right and your ability to inform yourself about the potential negative effects of a drug and ensures access to the information about the potential side effects -- and that studies on drug side effects get done at all.

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attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUN 10, 2008 10:38 PM

LSlice said:

coyotemike said:

LSlice said:
On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?



That would probably depend on the risks. Something like "grows hair on your back in the shape of a dildo", then that's not such a big deal. But if the risk is "if you take this drug, you will die, just not from your current disease/condition," well, then, probably not such a good idea.




But shouldn't that be my choice to make?

Hypothetically: Let's say I have cancer. There's a promising treatment, but a 1 in 5 chance it will kill me. Why the hell does the governemnt get to make that decision for me?


your arguementation skills are poor.

LSlice

LSlice

Montclair, NJ
December 2007

JUN 10, 2008 10:40 PM

Shalome said:

RudieCantFail said:

LSlice said:

coyotemike said:

LSlice said:
On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?



That would probably depend on the risks. Something like "grows hair on your back in the shape of a dildo", then that's not such a big deal. But if the risk is "if you take this drug, you will die, just not from your current disease/condition," well, then, probably not such a good idea.




But shouldn't that be my choice to make?

Hypothetically: Let's say I have cancer. There's a promising treatment, but a 1 in 5 chance it will kill me. Why the hell does the governemnt get to make that decision for me?



Because not everyone is competent to evaluate and understand complicated medical procedures.



And not all drug companies, as we've seen, are forthcoming with the information that it might kill you.




No, and fraud of that sort is tantamount to homicide. It still doesn't address the point.

My life, my choice.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

JUN 10, 2008 10:44 PM

LSlice said:

coyotemike said:

LSlice said:
On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?



That would probably depend on the risks. Something like "grows hair on your back in the shape of a dildo", then that's not such a big deal. But if the risk is "if you take this drug, you will die, just not from your current disease/condition," well, then, probably not such a good idea.




But shouldn't that be my choice to make?

Hypothetically: Let's say I have cancer. There's a promising treatment, but a 1 in 5 chance it will kill me. Why the hell does the governemnt get to make that decision for me?



RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

JUN 10, 2008 10:44 PM

LSlice said:

Shalome said:

RudieCantFail said:

LSlice said:

coyotemike said:

LSlice said:
On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?



That would probably depend on the risks. Something like "grows hair on your back in the shape of a dildo", then that's not such a big deal. But if the risk is "if you take this drug, you will die, just not from your current disease/condition," well, then, probably not such a good idea.




But shouldn't that be my choice to make?

Hypothetically: Let's say I have cancer. There's a promising treatment, but a 1 in 5 chance it will kill me. Why the hell does the governemnt get to make that decision for me?



Because not everyone is competent to evaluate and understand complicated medical procedures.



And not all drug companies, as we've seen, are forthcoming with the information that it might kill you.




No, and fraud of that sort is tantamount to homicide. It still doesn't address the point.

My life, my choice.



Yes it does, because accountability for such negative actions as fraud also require mitigation and prevention on the front end.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

JUN 10, 2008 10:45 PM

LSlice said:

coyotemike said:

LSlice said:
On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?



That would probably depend on the risks. Something like "grows hair on your back in the shape of a dildo", then that's not such a big deal. But if the risk is "if you take this drug, you will die, just not from your current disease/condition," well, then, probably not such a good idea.




But shouldn't that be my choice to make?

Hypothetically: Let's say I have cancer. There's a promising treatment, but a 1 in 5 chance it will kill me. Why the hell does the governemnt get to make that decision for me?


This is one of the most asinine libertarian philosophies I come across regularly, so I'm going to take a moment to take a few deep breaths before I respond to this.

...

This philosophy only, only, ONLY makes sense in a reality where truth is universally known, and full disclosure is universal. A fully informed consumer has all of the information necessary to make their own choices, but when corporations actively engage in deception, misdirection, and collusion to cover up the side effects of their products, or refuse to even engage in honest review of their products, there is simply not enough information available for a consumer to make an informed decision about their purchases.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUN 10, 2008 10:46 PM

LSlice said:

Shalome said:

RudieCantFail said:

LSlice said:

coyotemike said:

LSlice said:
On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?



That would probably depend on the risks. Something like "grows hair on your back in the shape of a dildo", then that's not such a big deal. But if the risk is "if you take this drug, you will die, just not from your current disease/condition," well, then, probably not such a good idea.




But shouldn't that be my choice to make?

Hypothetically: Let's say I have cancer. There's a promising treatment, but a 1 in 5 chance it will kill me. Why the hell does the governemnt get to make that decision for me?



Because not everyone is competent to evaluate and understand complicated medical procedures.



And not all drug companies, as we've seen, are forthcoming with the information that it might kill you.




No, and fraud of that sort is tantamount to homicide. It still doesn't address the point.

My life, my choice.





tomAto, tomATo.

(photo credit from this article.
FDA Issues Warning After Outbreak Sickens 145
So, you want less FDA and not more? you want 725 to die, not 145?

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

JUN 10, 2008 10:48 PM

LSlice said:

Shalome said:

RudieCantFail said:

LSlice said:

coyotemike said:

LSlice said:
On this particular issue, I speak with some personal experience.

But the general point is, if a treatment carries potential risks, shouldn't it be up to the individual patient to decide if he is willing to take those risks?



That would probably depend on the risks. Something like "grows hair on your back in the shape of a dildo", then that's not such a big deal. But if the risk is "if you take this drug, you will die, just not from your current disease/condition," well, then, probably not such a good idea.




But shouldn't that be my choice to make?

Hypothetically: Let's say I have cancer. There's a promising treatment, but a 1 in 5 chance it will kill me. Why the hell does the governemnt get to make that decision for me?



Because not everyone is competent to evaluate and understand complicated medical procedures.



And not all drug companies, as we've seen, are forthcoming with the information that it might kill you.




No, and fraud of that sort is tantamount to homicide. It still doesn't address the point.

My life, my choice.



Is it homicide if the studies are never performed because they're not required?

Is it homicide if someone is unable to comprehend the complex medical study literature and decides to go ahead with a treatment at the recommendation of a doctor who gets kickbacks from the drug company?

cpkz

cpkz

Portland, OR
September 2006

JUN 10, 2008 10:49 PM

LSliceBut shouldn't that be my choice to make?

Hypothetically: Let's say I have cancer. There's a promising treatment, but a 1 in 5 chance it will kill me. Why the hell does the governemnt get to make that decision for me?



You brought up cancer...which kind of made me laugh. Not because Cancer is funny, but (conspiracy) theory is that its big drug companies have used their money to corrupt the FDA into not allowing further research into cures for cancer and AIDS since there is more money for these companies through a slow and long treatments as opposed to a cure.

So its kind of a two sided blade. Give FDA more control, and they'll probably be more corrupt. Give these medicinal companies more power, and they'll further try to prevent 'cures' from getting out.

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