Free speech kept off U.S. streets

Edited because the link isn't working.

[Edited on Oct 26, 2003 by Pauillac]

More repression from the Man,

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Seems to me that this has a lot more to do with suppressing dissent than it does with protecting the president. If I was going to go all Travis Bickle on Bush, i certainly wouldn't show up with a protest sign. I'd either come as John Q. Public or with a sign reading " God bless Mr. Ashcroft ".

Are you really suprised?

I'm giving it a month before they shoot protesters in the street.

"Free speech area"? Holy fuck.

"...four dead in Ohio..."

"Behind the fence"

Back when W was campaigning in Tampa, FL and the first "Free Speech Zone" was created, I made this sticker:



Uncopywrited 2003. Please print and distribute as you wish.

From sea to shining see, whitey!!

wow. almost reminiscent of brown v. the board of education. "separate, but equal" is not legal. obviously, not the same circumstances. regardless, i still can't imagine this standing up against the 14th amendment.

great sticker...

saw a story a few weeks ago where the 'protest zone' was in a muddy patch a half mile away from where the prez was going to be.... a huge puddle or water retention thing, so a bunch of people just waded in. which was funny and sad at the same time.

of course the good citizens with -trust jesus trust bush signs- etc were right up close for photo ops.


this guy has held the least press conferences of any president in the time he has been in office. in the age of information overload...
he talks of the media being a filter between the truth from his mouth and our ears, yet not a question gets asked that isn't prepared in advance.

seems maybe he's not really 'free' to speak either.

'You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you need to concentrate on.'

- George W Bush

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~ we have a free speech zone. it's called America ~
uncopyrighted2002 mm23 muaha!

[Edited on Oct 28, 2003 by mindmeld23]

This is a tad over-dramatic, doncha think?

I'm so ashamed we haven't gotten rid of these psychos yet.

A "Free Speech area".........riiiiiiiiiiight. I guess Treblinka was an "Employment Agency" And the Bataan Death March was a "nature walk"

The thing that scares me the most about this is that so many people are swallowing it. That we are losing the freedoms that we are supposedly fighting for when even the basic indellible freedom of speech can get twisted and turned for the amusement of the ruling class.

"Tin Soldiers and G-Dub's coming, we're finally on our own!"

Remember - first they take the fringe groups, the freaks and gays, and no one minds cause they hate us anyway,

But what happens when they've finished with us?

Can we honestly say that there's no need for vigilance?

Do we honestly believe it could never happen here?

Maybe I'm paranoid, but what if I'm not?

Who will stand up for your rights if no one will stand up for ours?

at the august 22nd 2002 bush protest in portland, the first person they shot with pepper spray was a father holding a ten month old baby who was nowhere near doing anything 'wrong'

they sprayed people looking the other way, talking amongst themselves. no provocation whatsoever.

they shot people with rubber bullets, pepper bullets, beanbags full of metal, rubber batons, pepper balls, and other 'non lethal' but very painful weapons.

hitting people with clubs.
people in wheelchairs. the media. senior citizens. children. all on tape as well~ try indymedia maybe, A22 portland.

so while it may be a tad overdramatic~ the more people that realize what is happening in this country and stand up to protest, the more likely it is for some cop to decide on using real bullets to push those protests back.

this is history on the repeat.

the kind of history that isn't covered so well in our wonderful american public skools.

something similar has happened in california as well... i remember a picture of a beautiful hippie peace girl with a grapefruit sized welt on her jaw from being capped with one of those weapons.

maybe we'll get lucky and they'll use sound waves or stink bombs instead of guns... hopefully

I think we should reserve this sort of treatment for Islamic fundamentalists.

wow

on the other hand, at least kroeker is gone, so there may be hope yet. the new guy sounds like he's got potential for not being evil. at least he's local and not a freaking lapd import...

wait and see.

sorry, make that hope in portland: nationwide, i have no idea.

[Edited on Oct 29, 2003 by seanconnery]

Kroeker made sure the force was well stocked with violence loving borderline psychotics before he left. The new guy (it's been so quiet since Kroeker left, I don't even know his name!), might have some trouble with the hitler youth crowd that was being hired the last few years.

Can we get Bud Clark to run for mayor again?

This is disturbing. I'd do something about it, but I feel disempowered and disenfranchised by the powers that be.

Let's see if I get this right, you people are just now bitching about the "zoning" protest areas? There are such things as "unlawful assemblies", been going on since before America was founded and after. You've always need some kind of permission to protest and those who didn't have it were disbanned and if confrentations happened, the media will alway be there to take the nice pretty picture of the "mean 'ol cop standing over the helpless protester".

Let him have his "protest free area" and just work all that much harder to get him removed come 2004.

not really america, but close ha

Austrailian Anti-war activist charged for 'misusing phone' to protest to US.

told by police they would seize information from his computer under the Counter-Terrorism Act.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/31/1067233349746.html

how else is he supposed to protest to the US?

maybe he could have used smoke signals, or peed his message in the dirt and sent a picture.



[Edited on Nov 01, 2003 by mindmeld23]

something similar has happened in california as well... i remember a picture of a beautiful hippie peace girl with a grapefruit sized welt on her jaw from being capped with one of those weapons-mindmeld

You do know she was part of a group physically blocking military transport of sandbags to Iraq right? Asked to disperse, told to disperse, finally dispersed. I have no problem with protests, but trying to physically block sand bags, bullet proof vests, ect from getting to soldiers is just wrong.

[Edited on Nov 01, 2003 by levezletoi]

Yeah, how dare she interfere with the military?