NEWS: Obama Gets All Manish

POLITICS: Obama Gets All Manish

Holy shit, who invited a man to the party? Yesterday, Barack Obama stood up and acted more like a man than any presidential candidate I've ever seen. The Republican Party in Tennessee decided it would be a super idea to attack Michelle Obama, but Barack told them to back their shit up. And it was impressive.







I like the end, just before he remembered to smile. That was a, "Keep it up and I'm going to kick the shit out of you" moment.



That clip will go down as one of the most important in this campaign. That's what men who care about their wives do. Nobody gets to talk shit about my wife or disrespect her while I'm around. It's just not going to happen. Maybe that's chauvinistic, I don't really give a shit. You want to talk shit about my wife, you better be prepared for what you have coming. End of fucking story.



The Republicans seem to think being a tough guy means attacking countries that have no ability to defend themselves against our incredible firepower - or to talk a big game. George Bush's "Bring it on" comment is a pretty classic example, as was his ridiculously stupid invasion of Iraq. All the right wing talking heads lap it up and proclaim the Democrats to be weak, spineless creatures. At the same time, these big bad GOP men launch endless verbal assaults against Democratic politician's families.



One needs only look at the attacks on Hillary Clinton while Bill was in charge of the White House. It was endless. And they even went after Chelsea Clinton. In 1998, John McCain made a joke about Chelsea at a Senate fundraiser.

For me, this is Sonny Corleone time. If I was Bill Clinton, I'd get on a plane, fly to wherever the old man is and break his nose. Obviously, the president can't do that. But I'd sure as hell call him out. I'd call a press conference, walk out to the White House lawn and tell McCain to come on up and say it to my face. I'd look into the cameras and make sure America heard one thing:

Besides being the right thing to do, it would score so many political points it would be insane. Most men in America would want to kick the shit out of a grown man who called their daughter ugly. This was the most relatable moment Barack Obama has ever had.



This is the kind of shit Republicans have been able to get away with for years - and it needs to stop now, with Michelle Obama. This latest attack will go down as a tremendous backfire. Barack knows how to frame it. Honestly, I got a little tingly watching it. My wife called me and said, "That's exactly what you would say." It is. Barack Obama just stood up and acted like any other man who cared about his wife would. Welcome to the world of relatable politics, you calculating GOP fucks.



Attacks on a politician's family are the ultimate act of cowardice. I don't give a shit if McCain was shot down over Vietnam and then spent five years as a POW; his entire slate was erased when he made a public joke about Chelsea Clinton. The man is a fucking coward. He's trash. Let's take a look at the difference between how the two men treat their wives. From 1992...

Sorry, when I get tired I call my wife a "cunt." That man is common trash. That moment was witness by three reporters. I've got some man rules in my head and that doesn't match up with any of them. It does meet my "weak fuck" criteria, however.



Obama seems to be cut from a different cloth. It's rare to see a politician have an uncalculated moment of honesty, but I've seen more from Obama in his short time in the spotlight than all other politicians combined. One thing is for sure - yesterday we saw a man stand up and tell a bunch of punks to back the fuck up off his lady. And that man just won over a lot of men in America. The game just changed. Thanks, GOP, for being a bunch of classless cowards.



FearTheReaper understands this is a feminist website, but on some shit he's old fashioned. Deal with it.

I don't think it is a chauvinistic at all. Partners, spouses, take care of each other and defend each other. FTR, what does your wife do when someone badmouths you in her presence? I bet it ain't pretty.

The GOP is dropping. They've lost a good portion of the Christian base. They've lost most moderate conservatives. All they have left are the bigoted, the sexist, the racist, and the intellectual lightweights known as the "good ole boys." And the only ammuntion they have in their arsenal is old fashioned character slander. They can't compete on intellectual matters, they can't compete on social matters, hell they can't even compete on moral matters.

The era of the smooth-talking, self-serving, boys'-club politician is over. It is time for the tough, intellectual, people-serving politician.

And it's about damn time.

agreed. great assessment.

This is the textbook definition of a troll.

d'oh!

Good for Obama. Though I doubt it will be as important as FTR would like to think.

Did McCain really say those things to his wife? I mean really? Wow, I'd only say that kind of thing to Ann Coulter or Countess Bathory or some other irredeemably evil bitch...and even then I think I'd probably say it in the nicest way possible.

Gee, some chicks sure know how to pick 'em.

Agreed. I hope it is, but I've seen a lot of amazingly eloquent speeches Obama has made while surfing the net, and I really had to look for them. Whenever you turn on the TV, all you get is the Reverend Wright bullshit or his "god and guns" thing instead of speeches like this.
Only in this county can you get attacked for being intelligent and actually tackling the REAL issues.

Believe it or not, as much as I huff and puff around here, I'm generally a very peaceful guy. I can count the fights I've been in in my life on one hand and still have enough fingers left over to go bowling. Someone messes with my wife or kids, the transformation the Hulk goes through will look like caterpillar to butterfly in comparison. I believe if you DON'T have this reaction, weather you are male or female, there is something wrong in your relationship. Now, I don't mean to say every time someone looks at your wife you should beat the shit out of them, but there are definitely situations where the risk of a battery charge may be called for.

I also wouldn't have called myself one of the Obama groupies. I just thought he was OK, least worst. After seeing that, I'm sold. That's the most truthful, straight from the gut talk I have EVER in my entire life heard come out of the mouth of a politician.

Right on! And I don't think there's anything chauvinistic about a man defending a woman he cares about, just as there is nothing emasculating about a woman defending a man she cares about.

I will respectfully argue that Obama ducks real issues as well as any politician who aspires to be President. If the argument is desired, anyway, I will see it through. No doubt, though, the guy has more class and style by far than anyone else on the trail. I got burned voting for a rock star in '92, so this time I am more skeptical.

Echoing bean's sentiment, I hear livertarian's type of comments all the time (or an amalgamation of don't know what he stands for, what his record is, can't trust him etc.). Just once I wished these uninformed and misinformed media slaves would stop waiting to be spoon fed, get off their couch and actually do some research on Obama instead of simply parroting what they hear from some conservative luddite. For goodness sakes, this man could very likely be the next president and people are simply willing to be told what to think of him instead of actually looking into him for themselves (for better or worse!!!) I highly suggest people research all candidates before deciding to vote for instead of just settling for who you're told to vote against, otherwise why the hell are you recklessly voting?!?

Seriously, the Republicans have no where to go but low at this point. They're down in the muck and the best they can do is to try to pull everything down with them? I think their negativity and fear-mongering machine finally jumped it's rails and is going to hold them back in November.

Well, to begin a debate on this, we'd have to agree on what the "real issues" are. I would propose a few for starters.

Social Security. Obama said in his speech in Portland yesterday that higher-income people need to shoulder more of the burden. This resonates with voters - nobody really likes rich people, so of course they should pay more. This kind of statement I find highly typical of politics, and completely lacking practicality; SS is conceptually flawed from the ground up, and I don't believe anyone who's as educated and savvy as Obama can honestly see a way around it. Even if rich people were to be denied SS, plus taxed highly to support the lower brackets, the system will still go broke eventually. More importantly, Obama never mentions Medicare/Medicaid in his speeches, because it turns out these entitlements dwarf SS in cost. SS/Medicare/Medicaid is straight-up guaranteed to bankrupt the government. The accountants at the GAO can fill in details, but it's a $50 trillion problem as of today.

Drug War. Obama says nothing substantial that I can find. The implication is that he wants to stay the course by keeping drugs illegal and funding the War effort. I believe drug criminalization is by far the number one issue impacting African Americans as a group. Prison stats and crime stats might back me up on this.

Military policy. Withdrawal from Iraq is the only thing Obama has pledged so far that I can get behind. But he fails to discuss our military policy with any depth or candor. Would he back another UN resolution to essentially rebuild more nations deemed rebuild-able? How successful are these effort, considering the cost in lives and dollars, and what kind of results do we expect? Iraq was a disaster - most Americans agree - and yet the UN is not taken to task for resolving to make this happen.

It would be wonderful if there were more candidates out there discussing what the role of government truly ought to be. Protecting our rights would be my answer. Transformation of society is assumed to be the role, however, with little debate. Obama's speech on balancing religion with politics is an eloquent one, but sidesteps this very important issue to me and most true conservatives.

I realize that Obama has little to gain by sticking his neck out. But I also have to assume that the Hope and Change thing is just talk. I am prepared to see the mess we call the federal government become worse under this guy, or the other. It's really just a matter of how fast you wanna slide.

Holy mother of God.... When you said this I thought it was some kind of joke. Who the fuck does that? I'd hate to see what would happen if McCain had a "long day" in the Oval Office. Suddenly the leader of Iran is a "dick-sucking butthole" and we're in war for twenty more years...

Abso-fucking-lutely!

During debates, Obama can only answer the questions asked. And if you have asshats asking inane questions about idiotic non-issues, there simply isn't time to get to the issues. And partisan "news" sources sure as hell aren't going to outline the position of someone they don't like. How much time was spent by right-wing talking-heads on Obama's middle name? How many weeks were spent on Jeremiah Wright, or on an "elitist" remark. How much time was spent talking about Clinton having a little catch in her voice early on in the campaign at the end of a hard day, or her taking a shot and a beer in a bar?

The information on the issues is readily available. Go look for it. In fact, I'll provide you with a nice link:

All info can be found here.

I'm more concerned about the McCain family spousal abuse that isn't documented by the media.

I'll do ya one better, mike.

Obama's stances on...

Healthcare

Military/Foreign Policy

Social Security

If I missed any, livertarian, all the rest are right there on the site. Maybe he hasn't been able to fit all that into every speech that he's given, but it's up on the site and I found it with one single Google search, so it can't be that hard for anyone else to get a hold of.

You and me both. I'm not going to lie, I found McCain kind of charming in his own way, even though I completely distrusted his change from being "disgusted" with Bush so many years ago to being his best fucking buddy. I worry about the truthfulness of the reporters saying that he called his wife a "cunt", but seeing as how he is known for his temper I wouldn't find it much of a stretch to find that it really happened. And domestic issues aside, it's just terrifying to think of having someone who might just flip the fuck out on a foreign dignitary that he didn't agree with as our president.

You might be right, bean. It would perhaps be more accurate to call Obama duplicitous, though I would still argue he is a dodger.

On the Drug War, I actually did find

this nice write up. So he plans to win the Drug War after all, by keeping drugs illegal and somehow making first offenders less likely to repeat their "crimes".

On SS/Medicare/Medicaid, his policy statements indicate he actually believes you can manage a system where everyone receives more money than they put into it. But without a real numerical connection from "reducing waste" in M/M to actually depositing enough cash into the Treasury to allow the money to grow at the needed rate, I have to call this ducking and/or dodging.

It's not ducking or dodging. You disagree with his policy.

End of story.