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motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

MAY 15, 2008 12:58 PM

You may have read that the honorable W recently compared the Dem stance on Iran to Nazi appeasement, simultaneously crossing his own advisers and Godwinning the entire debate.

There's been a lot of response, but I think Joe Biden really nails it:

This is bullshit. This is malarkey. This is outrageous. Outrageous for the president of the United States to go to a foreign country, sit in the Knesset...and make this kind of ridiculous statement.



Joe Biden and bad toilet paper, baby.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

MAY 15, 2008 01:13 PM

Wow.

-TM

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

MAY 15, 2008 01:16 PM

motorfirebox said:
You may have read that the honorable W recently compared the Dem stance on Iran to Nazi appeasement, simultaneously crossing his own advisers and Godwinning the entire debate.

There's been a lot of response, but I think Joe Biden really nails it:

This is bullshit. This is malarkey. This is outrageous. Outrageous for the president of the United States to go to a foreign country, sit in the Knesset...and make this kind of ridiculous statement.



Joe Biden and bad toilet paper, baby.



It's like Biden is channelling Harry S. Truman! All he needs to do is call Bush a sonovabitch. smile

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Waldwick, NJ
June 2003

MAY 15, 2008 01:17 PM

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

MAY 15, 2008 02:34 PM

A reader at TalkingPointsMemo put it very well:

When President Bush decries "the false comfort of appeasement," and John McCain raises the spectre of Neville Chamberlain, they're deliberately advancing a fallacious line of argument. Appeasement - the acceptance of conditions imposed by an aggressor in lieu of open conflict - is not the result of negotiation, but of capitulation. And the inverse proposition - the rejection of all negotiation even at the price of open conflict - is just as rigidly obtuse. We call it war-mongering.

I don't particularly mind that our President has chosen to air a domestic dispute abroad - that's his perogative. And I've always been miffed by the notion that foreign policy is for the experts, and too delicate a matter to be subject to public debate or the people's will - what the establishment terms 'politicization.' But I'm incensed that the coverage has focused on whether or not Obama's support of negotiations constitutes appeasement, as if this were subject to dispute. It's not. He has never proposed giving in to our enemies. His support of negotiation constitutes, ipso facto, a rejection of appeasement.

There are not two valid sides to this dispute. For the media to accede to this kind of slander, just because it's what the GOP demands, well, it borders on appeasement.

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

Redding, CA
December 2005

MAY 15, 2008 02:49 PM

Biden kicks ass. It's just a fact of life.

IDGAS

IDGAS

Jackson Heights, NY
March 2004

MAY 15, 2008 03:22 PM

Were not Bush et al whining like little babies when the Dixie Chicks criticized Georgie while they were overseas? I am certain that they have also complained about others doing it to.

Hunkpapa

Hunkpapa

United Kingdom
June 2004

MAY 15, 2008 03:33 PM

I don't know much about Biden, but I think I'm starting to like him.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

MAY 15, 2008 04:44 PM

Hunkpapa said:
I don't know much about Biden, but I think I'm starting to like him.


+1

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

MAY 15, 2008 09:40 PM

ckdexterhaven said:
Biden kicks ass. It's just a fact of life.




LOL, I am saving this one.

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

Redding, CA
December 2005

MAY 15, 2008 10:46 PM

stockula said:

ckdexterhaven said:
Biden kicks ass. It's just a fact of life.




LOL, I am saving this one.


He is priceless, you've gotta admit.

OhSoOrdinary

OhSoOrdinary

New York, NY
July 2006

MAY 16, 2008 03:47 AM

I knew I liked that guy for a reason.