British Conservativism . . . UR DOING IT WRONG!!!

British Conservatives have had a long history of following America's lead. But now they've done something that American Conservatives just can't accept:

They're changing.

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Wait, what? Society? That can't be right.

Social responsibility? Using the government to foster social bonds?

HIPPIES!!!!

Seems this is actually a worldwide movement among conservatives to finally get out of the 1980's mentality of "Me First" and realizing that other people matter.

The poor American Conservative is going to be mightly lonely as this trend grows.

Coyotemike finds it hard to feel sorry for people who still think Reagan was God.

KAAAAAHHHHHHNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish British conservatives would change into something that is more like American conservatives. Fiscally that is - not socially.

Socially, conservatives are a disgrace.

If Conservatism is about small government, why do conservatives try to impose governmental strictures on people's personal lives? Butt the fuck out!

Conservatism has no business moralising to people about porn, drugs, abortion, marriage and sexuality. The only reason they do this is to pander to the Christian vote.

Shame.

Given the new trend among American conservative evangelicals (especially younger ones) to be concerned about such things, it's possible that American conservatives will go down the same road.

People are fed up with extremists (a.k.a. The Base) telling them what they should be thinking about all things. There is a movement towards compromise, to the middle ground. We may be looking at an age of Centrism (Centerism? Fuckit, I'm making up words today).

blowjobs are illegal.

British fiscal policy, much more conservative than say US fiscal policy, appears to have won the day and Brown deserves credit (no pun intended). The pound is strong against every currency. The balance of trade seems reasonable. And still the government finds ways to fund important community issues including healthcare and public transportation.

British personal income tax is high compared to the US, although it caps at 40%; so clearly there is a price to pay for these efforts. Most certainly the price is too high, but let's give the British credit for quickly sorting out the priorities surrounding the responsibility we all hold for humanity and give them a bit of time to sort out how to do so more efficiently.

I would take that approach and continue to ignore UpTight's screeching protestation

That is because there are a few different groups of Conservatism and that group is part of the progressive movement but on the political right the other term is compassionate conservative or in some ways neo-conservatives but sadly they too have been able to take over the Republican Party here in the States under the name of being Conservative when they really are not. The days of Barry Goldwater Conservatism are almost long gone (Fiscal Conservatism, socially Liberal/Libertarian) but it seems the party is slowly going back to that but with a lot of fighting.

I'm a little confused. Are you calling Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and the other Neo-cons compassionate and progressive? Or did I read that wrong.

They did call them selves compassionate conservatives, there whole thing was imposing their own morals to every one which is more of a progressive idea on the political right (although I don't think they are compassionate and progressive out side the political terminology) but they most definitely are not conservatives or at least in the classical sense. But thankfully the neo-cons are losing power in the Republican party and will hopefully sooner rather then later just be a fringe group.

One can certainly make a case that the Bush Administration has been neither compassionate nor conservative.
As for neoconservatives - during the 70s and 80s, the term actually referred to conservatives who wanted to address issues like racism and poverty usually addressed by the left. Many were strongly anticommunist - and seem to have taken the lesson from the Cold War that US (and Western) security depends on the US taking a stronger, even more aggressive, posture in world affairs than even Reagan would've imagined. Some of those who remained more concerned with social justice issues began referring to themselves as "civic conservatives" during the 90s.

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Different names, still a douche.

By the time the next election comes around, the Conservatives won't have been in government for 13 years. David Cameron's primary focus is saying whatever the hell it takes to get his party elected.

Now I know the Apocalypse is coming. I agree with you.

Except I think that American conservatives do an awful lot of that, too.

It's a disturbing feeling, isn't it?

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It's hard to be socially conscious when you only care about the top 1% (economically speaking) of the population.

Or when you slay babies

But they're so tasty, with a bit of BBQ sauce, maybe a marinade.

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Irish babies taste best with a Guinness

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