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emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

MAY 05, 2008 12:38 PM

A Sudanese government air strike on a school in Darfur has killed at least seven children, according to the aid organisation Darfur Diaries.

The group's spokeswoman says six more people were killed when a market was bombed during the same attack on the village of Shegeg Karo on Sunday.

A rebel group says there were four air raids in total in North Darfur.

The Sudanese air force has made no comment. Under a UN resolution, all offensive flying is banned in Sudan.

Since the conflict began in Darfur five years ago, the UN estimates that some 300,000 have died and two million have been displaced.

The UN and African Union Mission to Darfur (Unamid) said the reported bombings were "unacceptable acts against civilians".

Its peacekeeping force of 26,000 has yet to be completely deployed to Darfur, and officials say it is unlikely to be up to full strength this year.

MOAR

Mr_Matt_

Mr_Matt_

Hollywood, FL
July 2005

MAY 05, 2008 12:46 PM

They don't have oil.

The world doesn't care.

My participation in Save Darfur.org seems more and more futile each year.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

MAY 05, 2008 01:01 PM

Mr_Matt_ said:
They don't have oil.

The world doesn't care.

My participation in Save Darfur.org seems more and more futile each year.

They do have a little bit of oil, but aside from that they've been on the US list of state sponsors of terrorism. Bin Laden lived there for five years and made some of his worldwide terrorist connections all the while waging his personal war. To their credit and ours they kicked him out, but they should certainly be a country of interest, and obviously the conflict in Darfur is a disaster of epic proportions.

Mr_Matt_

Mr_Matt_

Hollywood, FL
July 2005

MAY 05, 2008 01:19 PM

emotedcreations said:t they should certainly be a country of interest, and obviously the conflict in Darfur is a disaster of epic proportions.



I see your point, but I'm shocked the international community finds no reason to do something about a genocide happening in front of us.

If that's not a good reason to invade a country than what is?

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

MAY 05, 2008 01:24 PM

Mr_Matt_ said:
If that's not a good reason to invade a country than what is?


To those managing invading armies? Probably the same things that have always been the reasons for invasion throughout history (either explicitly or implicitly): economic and political opportunism.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

MAY 05, 2008 01:47 PM

Mr_Matt_ said:

emotedcreations said:t they should certainly be a country of interest, and obviously the conflict in Darfur is a disaster of epic proportions.



I see your point, but I'm shocked the international community finds no reason to do something about a genocide happening in front of us.

If that's not a good reason to invade a country than what is?

The UN is working on it. They've allocated twenty some thousand soldiers in addition the small AU force that's there. They had a hard time getting Khartoum to agree (I don't know what they did to finally get them to allow them in country). But even though some forces are deployed they haven't reached the total number they promised. Short of invading the country, Bush (read: Rice) has done a pretty good job I think exerting pressure. My problem is that when things like this bombing happen, which goes against the current agreement, there needs to be consequences. Something I'd also like to see done, which hasn't to my knowledge, is to increase pressure on China using the Olympics as leverage. It seemed to work with the shipment of arms to Zimbabwe, but who knows what would have happened if it weren't for the persistence of SADC.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

MAY 05, 2008 03:29 PM

emotedcreations said:

Mr_Matt_ said:

emotedcreations said:t they should certainly be a country of interest, and obviously the conflict in Darfur is a disaster of epic proportions.



I see your point, but I'm shocked the international community finds no reason to do something about a genocide happening in front of us.

If that's not a good reason to invade a country than what is?

The UN is working on it. They've allocated twenty some thousand soldiers in addition the small AU force that's there. They had a hard time getting Khartoum to agree (I don't know what they did to finally get them to allow them in country). But even though some forces are deployed they haven't reached the total number they promised. Short of invading the country, Bush (read: Rice) has done a pretty good job I think exerting pressure. My problem is that when things like this bombing happen, which goes against the current agreement, there needs to be consequences. Something I'd also like to see done, which hasn't to my knowledge, is to increase pressure on China using the Olympics as leverage. It seemed to work with the shipment of arms to Zimbabwe, but who knows what would have happened if it weren't for the persistence of SADC.



I had the strong impression that the South African dock workers' union played a key role. If they hadn't balked at unloading the ship, it would have been a done deal.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

MAY 05, 2008 03:56 PM

SockPuppet said:
I had the strong impression that the South African dock workers' union played a key role. If they hadn't balked at unloading the ship, it would have been a done deal.

You're right, but I was thinking more along the lines of what happened after it left South Africa.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

MAY 05, 2008 04:10 PM

emotedcreations said:

SockPuppet said:
I had the strong impression that the South African dock workers' union played a key role. If they hadn't balked at unloading the ship, it would have been a done deal.

You're right, but I was thinking more along the lines of what happened after it left South Africa.



Ah, OK. I agree. After the South African refusal, yes.