Condi Rice is now "actively campaigning" to run with John McCain as Vice President. She will probably get the nod because Republicans are stupid enough to believe she will pull black votes away from Obama. But she wont, mostly because the guy above her on the ticket will be an old, white man named John McCain who sort of voted against a MLK holiday back in the '80s.
But he didnt know any better because he was only 50 when he voted against the MLK issue. Who knew about the Martin Luther King issue before they were 50? Not me.
So, that could be a constant and embarrassing topic if McCain chooses Condi. If he does pick her, it will be like slapping a little Bush on his shoulder to remind America of how horrible his presidency will be. A little, black, lady Bush, who is one hell of a piece of shit. Lets take a look at Condis superior governing abilities.
I don't think anybody could have predicted that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile.
Condi Rice - May 16, 2002.
Really? Well, I guess not many people saw the Lone Gunman pilot on Fox early in 2001, during which a terrorist flew a hijacked plane into the World Trade Center.
Oh, and never mind that George W. Bush was given a briefing on August 6, 2001 informing him that al Qaeda was capable of using hijacked airplanes to strike against targets within the US. Also, dont remember that one month earlier, Bush was told that terrorists had plans to use planes as missiles.
Our pre-9/11 plan called for military options to attack al Qaeda and Taliban leadership, ground forces and other targets, taking the fight to the enemy where he lived.
Condoleezza Rice - March 22, 2004
Wow, what a big fucking lie. At least, that's what 9/11 Commission member Jamie Gorelick says.
There is nothing in the NSPD that came out that we could find that had an invasion plan, a military plan.
Huh. Deputy Secretary of State, Richard Armitage also said there was no plan. Thats two against one, Condi.
He already has other weapons of mass destruction.
Condoleezza Rice November 2002
Not so much, liar.
The problem here is that there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons, but we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.
Condi Rice is a waste of human skin. She misjudged the terrorist threat leading up to 9/11, lied about it and then misled America in the build up to the Iraq War. She is just as responsible for the disaster that is Iraq as Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush.
Rice has zero credibility here or anywhere else in the world. Why would the leader of any country or the American people ever believe a word this blatant liar spewed out of her gap-toothed mouth? She was the National Security Advisor when the World Trade Center was destroyed. Rice should have been tossed out on her incompetent ass and publicly humiliated for the rest of her life.
Contrary to her bullshit cover-up, Bush was given a two-page document in August 2001, describing exactly what would happen. Here are some of the vague highlights.
Bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington.
Indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
A group of bin Laden supporters are in the U.S. planning attacks.
Condi Rice did not convene a Cabinet-level meeting to discuss the urgent warnings. Shes a miserable failure whose inaction and ineptitude led to the deaths of thousands of Americans. Thats probably why...
Many experts consider her one of the weakest national security advisers in recent history in terms of managing interagency conflicts.
Oh, thats someone who needs to be elevated to Vice President. This woman shouldnt be considered for the office. An appropriate place for Condi would be in a ditch somewhere, covered in feces for all eternity.
FearTheReaper does not believe in 9/11 Conspiracy theories. He thinks some idiots fucked up. The only people worse than Bush and his boys are you morons who cant accept reality. So, take your 9/11 Truth shit and cram it up your ass.
Those are all very good reasons to hate Condi. But the reason Republican Party leadership won't put her as VP is they are afraid they'll lose the racist/sexist vote.
The Condi strategy is less about trying to siphon off some of the Black vote and more about trying to insulate the GOP from criticism for the horribly racist campaign they are planning on running against Obama.
smithers_jones said:
The Condi strategy is less about trying to siphon off some of the Black vote and more about trying to insulate the GOP from criticism for the horribly racist campaign they are planning on running against Obama.
This sounds more feasible than Condi actually syphoning votes away from Obama. Unfortunately, it just might work on some voters. If she had any self respect she'd turn away from this lest she be pointed at every five minutes as "my black friend/runningmate."
Someone needs to photoshop that Colbert image to be Condi and McCain...
In Stephen King's The Bachman Books, the novella The Running Man ended with a very 9/11 ish feel. (But without the terrorists and all that). Ben Richards crashes a plane into the Games building, the last thing Killian sees is Richards flipping him the bird. Brilliant! I'm sure a lot of innocent people died in that one too, but here it was the fault of greedy TV execs, no doubt descended from those ass-hats responsible for "Bumfights". Nope, 9/11 was the fault of the current administration (about 75%) and Osama Bin Laden (25%).
Horrorflick said:
Nope, 9/11 was the fault of the current administration (about 75%) and Osama Bin Laden (25%).
I think it's prudent to say no one really knows full version, whether conspiracy or gross incompitence. But I think 9/11 was more related to almost a century's worth of US foreign policy coming home to roost than it was the current administration. Especially since Bin Laden was essentially created by us to fight the Soviets, in terms of training and our financially backing the embryonic stages of his organization. But I digress, lest this turn from a Condi thread to a 9/11 debate thread.
smithers_jones said:
The Condi strategy is less about trying to siphon off some of the Black vote and more about trying to insulate the GOP from criticism for the horribly racist campaign they are planning on running against Obama.
Exactly. Just wait 'til the swift boat crew gets medieval on Obama's ass.
The other problem with Condi is that she doesn't bring any constituency whatsoever to the table. She's reviled here in California, where she lives now. McCain will win Alabama (her home state) in a walk regardless. On top of that she's "moderately pro choice", which will further alienate the evangelical base.
So what's the point? Other than to fend off charges of racism. All she does is tie McCain more directly to the Bush presidency. I don't know if that's a good strategy.
"Well, I guess not many people saw the Lone Gunman pilot on Fox early in 2001, during which a terrorist flew a hijacked plane into the World Trade Center."
Dear Mr. Reaper :Condi and i go to the pistol range whenever she's in town. She gets the best football seats anywhere, sometimes SD and sometimes Oakland. She really is the sweetness "Condollezza", if only you knew her like I do, you wouldn't talk about her that way.
El_Truco said:
Dear Mr. Reaper :Condi and i go to the pistol range whenever she's in town. She gets the best football seats anywhere, sometimes SD and sometimes Oakland. She really is the sweetness "Condollezza", if only you knew her like I do, you wouldn't talk about her that way.
Ha ! You might be right about that.
If FTR knew her like you do we'd likely talk about her in the past tense.
El_Truco said:
Dear Mr. Reaper :Condi and i go to the pistol range whenever she's in town. She gets the best football seats anywhere, sometimes SD and sometimes Oakland. She really is the sweetness "Condollezza", if only you knew her like I do, you wouldn't talk about her that way.
The "if you only knew them" defense has never been used in reference to someone who wasn't a complete asshole.
You really believe Republicans think Condi Rice will siphon black votes in this political environment? You've GOT to be kidding. Anyone with half a brain who pays the slightest attention to politics knows the black base sees her, and just about any other black with opposing political views, as nothing but "Uncle Toms."
If the Republicans were half as stupid as you paint them to be, and the Democrats half as smart, then there'd never, ever be a question of who would be running the country.
And you quote Jamie Gorelick, one of the biggest political hacks on the 9/11 Commission. Talk about putting a fox in charge of a henhouse. She should have been INVESTIGATED, not part of the INVESTIGATORS. Directly responsible for much of the Clinton policy separating the CIA/FBI terrorism cooperation, her contribution to the left had not having any idea what the right hand was doing can not be overstated.
If we keep on fighting with rhetoric instead of facts, we don't get anywhere but further apart from reality.
El_Truco said:
Dear Mr. Reaper :Condi and i go to the pistol range whenever she's in town. She gets the best football seats anywhere, sometimes SD and sometimes Oakland. She really is the sweetness "Condollezza", if only you knew her like I do, you wouldn't talk about her that way.
I guess that's the difference between you and me. If I found myself anywhere near an individual as loathsome as Rice, I would tell her what I think of her and leave it at that.
I'm sure some people have charming, personal stories about Idi Amin, too.
All your post has accomplished is that now I have less respect for you.
Added to the above stated Condi-lies: I don't think it would be very bright to pick as a VP running mate ANYONE remotely linked to the current Bush-fiasco. I think that would be the final nail... for any candidate.
The GOP has to see that chosing Rice as the VP would weaken their chances down to nothing. It would be a sign of defeat. I don't know who would be a better choice (hard to choose amongst asshats), but she would drag them into a certain loss.
With that in mind . . . Go Condi, get that nomination!
The discussions in the White House were top secret and sources say, involve some of the President's most senior and influential advisors, principals of the National Security Council. In dozens of private talks and meetings, sources said that a handful of top advisors discussed specific high-value al Qaeda prisoners and exactly how those prisoners would be interrogated. Whether, for example, they would be slapped, pushed, deprived of sleep or subjected to simulated drowning, called waterboarding. The discussion about the "enhanced interrogation techniques" were so detailed, sources said, the interrogations were almost choreographed, down to the number of times the CIA could use a specific tactic. Former CIA director George Tenet, in an interview last year with ABC News told Charles Gibson,
"It was authorized. It was legal, according to the Attorney General of the United States."
It also was discussed and approved in meetings by the National Security Council's Principals Committee, a group that included Vice President Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, George Tenet, John Ashcroft.
El_Truco said:
Dear Mr. Reaper :Condi and i go to the pistol range whenever she's in town. She gets the best football seats anywhere, sometimes SD and sometimes Oakland. She really is the sweetness "Condollezza", if only you knew her like I do, you wouldn't talk about her that way.
I guess that's the difference between you and me. If I found myself anywhere near an individual as loathsome as Rice, I would tell her what I think of her and leave it at that.
I'm sure some people have charming, personal stories about Idi Amin, too.
All your post has accomplished is that now I have less respect for you.
You have to admit, Idi Amin had an uncanny ability to get the best seats at soccer games.
El_Truco said:
Dear Mr. Reaper :Condi and i go to the pistol range whenever she's in town. She gets the best football seats anywhere, sometimes SD and sometimes Oakland. She really is the sweetness "Condollezza", if only you knew her like I do, you wouldn't talk about her that way.
I guess that's the difference between you and me. If I found myself anywhere near an individual as loathsome as Rice, I would tell her what I think of her and leave it at that.
I'm sure some people have charming, personal stories about Idi Amin, too.
All your post has accomplished is that now I have less respect for you.
You have to admit, Idi Amin had an uncanny ability to get the best seats at soccer games.
El_Truco said:
Dear Mr. Reaper :Condi and i go to the pistol range whenever she's in town. She gets the best football seats anywhere, sometimes SD and sometimes Oakland. She really is the sweetness "Condollezza", if only you knew her like I do, you wouldn't talk about her that way.
I guess that's the difference between you and me. If I found myself anywhere near an individual as loathsome as Rice, I would tell her what I think of her and leave it at that.
I'm sure some people have charming, personal stories about Idi Amin, too.
All your post has accomplished is that now I have less respect for you.
You have to admit, Idi Amin had an uncanny ability to get the best seats at soccer games.
I hear he was just delightful at dinner parties.
And the Sha of Iran threw delightful dinner parties as well which included complementary diamonds. He was a jolly good sort.
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APR 09, 2008 11:12 PM