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MAR 19, 2008 12:58 PM
Shalome said:
How's that protest thing working out for you?
Making any progress on stopping the war yet?
ouch 
MAR 19, 2008 01:45 PM
s5 said:
Heh.
I heard this story this morning about a book written by a reporter embedded with a Marine recon unit. Sgt. Rudy Reyes, who is part of the interview, has some very interesting things to say about the war.
As part of the unit often referred to as the 1st Suicide Battalion, [Reyes] traveled from the Kuwait border, to Baghdad, then north into the Sunni triangle. After that operation was complete, he returned to Fallujah, where he conducted reconnaissance and surveillance.
"Us Latin guys, we dressed as Pakistanis or contractors and we grew long hair ... it took me a long time to grow a beard. I had to just start with the goatee, cause I'm kind of a hairless Mexican," he said. "We would turn the tables in a matter of milliseconds, shoot and engage and kill in the street without any civilian casualties."
But as the war went on, and they found themselves killing civillians and not protecting other civillians (which was discussed a lot more in the radio interview with Sgt. Reyes, not so much in the print article)..
Reyes, who served twice in Iraq and once in Afghanistan, eventually opted to leave the Marines.
"I started hating the fact that we're not helping anybody over there ... I wanted to fight people and engage and kill people who are oppressing others, right? It's quite sobering when you look in the mirror and you're like, 'Oh I guess I'm kind of that person too.'"
MAR 19, 2008 02:08 PM
Shalome said:
How's that protest thing working out for you?
Making any progress on stopping the war yet?
Guess we should all stay at home and do nothing then, eh?
MAR 19, 2008 02:16 PM
Shiny_Metal_Ass said:
Shalome said:
How's that protest thing working out for you?
Making any progress on stopping the war yet?
Guess we should all stay at home and do nothing then, eh?
Did I say the only options were "march around with a silly sign" and "sit at home doing nothing?"
By all means, if it makes you feel better to walk around yelling and waving signs to "raise awareness" that we've been fighting a ridiculous war for 5 years, please, continue to do so. I just hope you're doing other things like writing elected officials and voting, too.
MAR 19, 2008 02:20 PM
Shalome said:
Shiny_Metal_Ass said:
Shalome said:
How's that protest thing working out for you?
Making any progress on stopping the war yet?
Guess we should all stay at home and do nothing then, eh?
Did I say the only options were "march around with a silly sign" and "sit at home doing nothing?"
By all means, if it makes you feel better to walk around yelling and waving signs to "raise awareness" that we've been fighting a ridiculous war for 5 years, please, continue to do so. I just hope you're doing other things like writing elected officials and voting, too.
How's that "writing elected officials" thing going?
Making any progress on stopping the war yet?
MAR 19, 2008 02:24 PM
PointBlank said:
Shalome said:
Shiny_Metal_Ass said:
Shalome said:
How's that protest thing working out for you?
Making any progress on stopping the war yet?
Guess we should all stay at home and do nothing then, eh?
Did I say the only options were "march around with a silly sign" and "sit at home doing nothing?"
By all means, if it makes you feel better to walk around yelling and waving signs to "raise awareness" that we've been fighting a ridiculous war for 5 years, please, continue to do so. I just hope you're doing other things like writing elected officials and voting, too.
How's that "writing elected officials" thing going?
Making any progress on stopping the war yet?
Nope!
MAR 19, 2008 02:28 PM
Shalome said:
Shiny_Metal_Ass said:
Shalome said:
How's that protest thing working out for you?
Making any progress on stopping the war yet?
Guess we should all stay at home and do nothing then, eh?
Did I say the only options were "march around with a silly sign" and "sit at home doing nothing?"
By all means, if it makes you feel better to walk around yelling and waving signs to "raise awareness" that we've been fighting a ridiculous war for 5 years, please, continue to do so. I just hope you're doing other things like writing elected officials and voting, too.
Should we write to our senators and be vocal on media and news outlets?
MAR 19, 2008 03:23 PM
Shalome said:
Shiny_Metal_Ass said:
Shalome said:
How's that protest thing working out for you?
Making any progress on stopping the war yet?
Guess we should all stay at home and do nothing then, eh?
Did I say the only options were "march around with a silly sign" and "sit at home doing nothing?"
By all means, if it makes you feel better to walk around yelling and waving signs to "raise awareness" that we've been fighting a ridiculous war for 5 years, please, continue to do so. I just hope you're doing other things like writing elected officials and voting, too.
Better be careful, you could get a nosebleed up on that high horse.
MAR 19, 2008 05:20 PM
SockPuppet said:
It appears to me that having Iraq as a secure staging post for American power projection was an integral part of the plan from the off.
There was a plan? 
MAR 19, 2008 05:47 PM
bald_eagle said:
SockPuppet said:
It appears to me that having Iraq as a secure staging post for American power projection was an integral part of the plan from the off.
There was a plan?
I think there were lots of plans. Most of the people who made those plans didn't talk to each other (or anyone else - that can happen when your plan is basically, um, "not going to get you into heaven"). But they all tried to get their plans carried through anyway.
OneWithAll
Charlton City, MA
October 2005
MAR 19, 2008 12:43 PM