NEWS: Hillary: You Lost. Go Away.

POLITICS: Hillary: You Lost. Go Away.

I do not know what in the fuck Hillary Clinton is doing. There is no way she can legitimately win the Democratic nomination. Turns out, a long time ago some asshole invented math and because of math, Hillary cannot win. She is a dead lady walking, which makes her continuing campaign completely absurd.

Clinton has only one strategy at this point: Scare superdelegates into voting against Obama. Either because he’s black, or he knew a guy named Rezko, or he’s black, or he can’t win big states, or he’s black, or because he’s not white. Hillary’s minions are now actually attempting to rename superdelegates. They want them to be called “automatic delegates,” which is apparently more appetizing and will somehow, magically allow Democrats to view them as pleasant, instead of what they are: Undemocratic, party insider bullshit.

Wow, that’s retarded. And Rovian. Good luck with that.

Meanwhile, other delegates chosen directly by voters are not "automatic."

Yes, let’s check the signatures of 1 million voters. Great idea and not at all scumbaggery.

Here is where Hillary’s problem lies.

It’s called reality. The only way she can win the nomination, by getting more delegates and winning the popular vote, is to crush Obama in all the remaining primaries. She has yet to crush Obama in one state primary. He has crushed her in several.

Hillary has also been loudly proclaiming that the Florida and Michigan delegates should be counted. Obviously, she did not come to this brilliant conclusion until she won both states. Hillary also apparently does not remember signing this document:

Hillary’s not going to “participate,” but she’s going to fight for the delegates. Which, is kind of "participating" in the process. She even wants the delegates from Michigan seated, where she was the only name on the ballot and voters were not allowed to write in Obama’s name. That is apparently totally acceptable – especially so in Asshole World.

Obama’s people, obviously, say, “No.”

How about a re-vote? Or, how about we follow the rules that were agreed to ahead of the campaign? How about we act like adults? How about if one of the leading Democratic candidates doesn’t attempt to pull a bullshit move that reminds every voter of Bush’s tactics? Does that sound good?

Apparently not. Hillary’s campaign can’t survive a re-vote. It’s something her biggest supporters don’t understand. So, being incredibly intelligent, I will break it down for them.

Currently the popular vote looks like this:

Obama – 13,281,132
Clinton – 12,577,409

That is without Florida and Michigan. With those two rogue states, it looks like this:

Obama - 13,857,346
Clinton – 13,776,704

Obviously, that’s a big difference. Clinton narrows the lead to under 100,000 with Michigan and Florida counted. But what happens if there is a revote in both states? Uh oh, then Clinton is getting her ass kicked again.

If a revote is agreed to, suddenly Hillary can no longer tell her supporters she is within striking distance. Toss those totals out and she has to accept being down nearly 1 million votes. Considering right now her campaign is running on pure bullshit, she’d be fucked. Even her minions would be forced to recognize that she has failed. The 193 extra delegates Clinton claims are hers, suddenly are not and she looks like the beaten candidate that she is.

And no fucking way in hell can she ever do better that the original, bullshit primaries held in Florida and Michigan. She was the only person on the ballot in Michigan. Latest polls show a tied race in the giant mitten. Obama would gain in delegates and popular vote. In Florida, Edwards was still on the ballot and Obama did not campaign in the state. In every state Obama campaigns in, he drastically cuts Hillary’s lead. Obama only came away with 32% of the vote in Florida. He would obviously get more in a revote. That’s more delegates and more votes.

As of now, Michigan looks like it will have a June revote. I like to call it a re-primary, or a re-mary. Bad news for Clinton. It appears Florida will not have a re-mary and Senator Nelson is calling for the delegates to be seated, but only count as ½.

Nelson is a big Clinton supporter – so his plan is a big blow. A 19 delegate pick up is not what Hillary needs. Her peeps are not pleased.

Well, they’re going to. It’s just not going to be the one you want. Obama is playing this smart.

The Clinton campaign needs to keep people thinking that the Florida and Michigan’s first results will be counted, because that creates uncertainty. Her campaign cannot survive right now without uncertainty. As soon as a resolution is reached, Clinton is toast. She will no longer be able to convince supporters that she will have the lead in delegates or the popular vote when Democrats hold their convention. Superdelegates or “automatic delegates” will never take the suicidal route of reversing the people’s choice.

Hillary is done. She has been since Mini Super Tuesday. There is no way for her to win. I know this because I passed my grammar school math classes. Pack it the fuck in, crazy lady.

If the Democrats were so worried about an indecisive primary election results, why not have run off votes in the primaries that were close to decide it rather then dubious undemocratic delegates?
The one caveat would be to have these run offs in states that had more then 2 candidates who roughly equally divided the membership votes between all them to (hopefully) avoid states where polarization in the membership would make a majority unlikely.

I really hope you are right. After the last eight years I find it kind of hard to trust reason and sanity to hold it's ground in these political situations.

Everyone misses the point of the "super" delegates. In 1972, on the strength of his success in the primaries, George McGovern won the Democratic nomination. This was the first time in US history that primaries played THE signifcant role in choosing a nominee. McGovern went on to lose in a landslide to a petty, corrupt fearmonger named RIchard Nixon.

The DNC decided at that point that leaving the nominating process in the hands of individual voters could prove to be a recipe for disaster. As a private organization, and keep in mind that political parties have no official sanction, the DNC is free to make whatever rules they like for choosing their nominee. They are well aware that a weak presidential candidate can be a detriment to other races: congressional, gubernatorial and other state level votes.

The "super" delegate idea is to provide a sanity check on the presidential nominating process. It is designed to give party leaders a chance to put the brakes on a popular yet unelectable candidate and spare the party the embarassment of another McGovern.

With the latest revelations on Obama's pastor and friend of 20 years raising questions of his real political and social beliefs the Democrats are facing the possibility of another 1972 - a weak economy, unpopular war and a White House embroiled in scandal SHOULD result in an easy win; but nominating a candidate that the majority of voters view as a radical can lose it all for them.

Believe me, I do not want to see Hillary Clinton nominated. I'm not sure I want to see Obama nominated either. The best hope for the Democrats might well be a brokered convention that results in someone else being chosen. I can think of half a dozen prominent Democrats who are much better presidential material than either of them.

Poor Senator Clinton. She moved to New York so she could run for Congress. She ran for Congress as the first step to being President. Now all of a sudden, she's no longer the chosen one. I wonder if she ever gave a damn about the people from New York.

What? The best hope would be to alienate 25 million voters? That sounds like a fantastic plan.

Barack Obama is The Donkey Whisperer.

Corrupt, petty, fearmonger who created the DEA, the EPA, made lasting peace with China in the shadow of the Cold War, who nearly passed a healthcare plan very similar to the one that Hilary Clinton proposed in 2007, and oversaw the greatest desegregation of Southern Schools?

The corrupt and petty fearmonger who appointed the Justice who wrote 'Roe vs. Wade'?

That guy.

The corrupt and petty fearmonger who pursued detente with the Soviet Union, signed into law the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, and SALT? That fucking guy?

Why does everyone bash fucking Nixon? Aside from carrying on the failed policy of Vietnam given to him by LBJ and Kennedy! And Watergate?

He was a fucking amazing President!

For liberals.

if she bans math, i am going to be pissed. i love math.

Not to mention OSHA, affirmative Action, and indexing Social Security for inflation!

. double post

The top one didn't say anything over here, I assume you were agreeing with me.

I'm not even going to touch Nixon here, but I will say GUESS WHAT?

There is NO NEED for a re-vote or run-off if you read the very clear article. The states had their elections as agreed upon by candidates and states, and the resulting tally is that Obama leads by nearly a million votes, not to mention delegates.

End of story. No need for more.

"How about if one of the leading Democratic canidates doesn't attempt to pull a bullshit move that remind's every voter of Bush's tactics? Does that sound good?"

Yeah, that sounds very good... more and more HRC is coming off as Dubya in drag. Only she's more intelligent that Bush... but so's a goldfish.


But I don't agree that Obama has the nomination clinched. HRC's campaign is showing signs of unraveling. But intrigues and diabolical power plays may still win the day, as it has in many past elections. In this regard, Obama has to prove that not only is he a fighter, but what kind of fighter he is. This is a test of his metal, The next president has to be strong enough to take the on the "powers that be" and reverse the econmic policies of this administration, as well as find a quick and strong resolution of this ill conceived and ineptly waged war in Iraq... and re-secure our constitutional rights.

I'll admit... at first I wasn't really that much behind Obama. Don't get me wrong, I like him. He seems a truly good and honorable man. He is articulate, diplomatic and his voting record suggests he actually does care about the people he represents.

I just wasn't convinced that he had the grit to fix what Bush and Cheney have broken.

I'm now re-thinking that. He has handled every assault on his character with grace, dignity and strength. He has refused to give in to pettiness and seems to consistanty take the moral high-ground. He has refused to play the "race card" even when others have done so. He seems to understand that race should not be an issue here... only character and ability.

Navigating HRC's power plays will take back-bone as well as intelligence and show us if he has the "chutzpa" to defeat Bitchzilla and take on McPain.

Yes, because of Watergate.

I'm continually baffled at how "Watergate", meaning Nixon's massive abuses of Presidential power to the extent of intentionally breaking the law, attempting to subvert the democratic process, and then attempting to cover it up, can be so easily dismissed by Nixon apologists.

Oh, and his illegal expansion of the Vietnam war into Cambodia and Laos doesn't help his case, especially since he illegally concealed it from Congress.

Obama's camp did a little re-naming of the delegates themselves. I thought it was cute. I got an email from them recently where they referred to "pledged" delegates as "earned" delegates.

I liked that.

You are high. If this happened, it would be the biggest political disaster in recent memory. Even if the superdelegates flip and pick Clinton, at least a large percentage of the country would have voted for her. If they decide they're picking someone else, you know how hard it would be to get people out to vote?

Seriously, you may not be happy with the field, but polls show the vast (VAST) majority of Democrats are. They'll be fine whoever wins.

Maiden/Priest 2008!

this is a race for the future, not the past. the past was good in its day, but it is still the past. we must look to the future, with a nomination for the future!

Mastodon/Five Finger Death Punch '08!

well. here in italy we're gonna win the election then, come june 2008. look at the poster - the trinity YOU want will be here all at once.

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so what i'd love is to get a one-off obama speech at the festival. his metal would be tested and loved then.

as opposed to "bought and paid for" delegates