The twisted, racist fuck that Obama calls "Reverend"

I don't generally mind religious folk. By and large they are decent people even if they do believe in superstitious, unscientific, archaic claptrap. I also don't have too many problems with people who believe in ghosts and UFOs. As long as it's harmless, who cares if vulnerable, impressionable people get together socially to be ripped off?

What isn't harmless.....what I really can't bear is when some cleric abuses his position to spread hatred amongst his vulnerable flock. Be it weird white nationalist churches, Kahane, Neturei Karta, the Nation of Islam or this utter creep that Barack Obama has treasured for spiritual leadership for the past 20 years.



It would certainly be nice to see a speedy condemnation from Obama. Alone, this might not be a good enough reason to avoid voting for Obama - Bush was also unrepentant for the creepy cult he was allegedly tied into - but when combined with the Rezco scandal and his total lack of experience, achievement and policies, I wonder why this guy is not only still in the race, but apparently storming it.

Ok, I listened to the whole thing. Which part do you have a problem with?

Hit the invert button in your head. Watch it again, but this time Imagine he is an extremist white preacher up there - spitting hate about black people.

More from Obama's spiritual light:
"GOD DAMN AMERICA" "The US of KKK" "America deserved 911"

Obama says:"He's like an old uncle who sometimes says things I don't agree with"

great

at what point did he say "America Deserved 9/11"

The pastor of my old church got caught fingering alter boys. Does that make me a child molester?

I know you are obligated to be outraged over this because Fox News says you must, but what exactly are you taking offense to?

He's contrasting how things are different for people who are black vs people who are white in America. He is pointing out the problems within the racial divide that still exist.

You may be surprised to find this out, but there are many of us over here who really don't give a damn about race or gender. I'm an Obama supporter because I think he's the best person for the job. I don't care if he's black, white, green, purple, transvestite transexual from Transylvania, male, female, androgynous, hermaphroditic, gay, straight, bi, tri, married, single, divorced, Christian, Muslim, Buddist, Catholic, Protestant, Shinto, Jainist, Hindu, African, European, Australian, Asian, Indigenous American, Hispanic, Canadian (well, maybe Canadian), Lapp, blonde, brunette, redhead, or bald. Those things are non-issues.

African American preachers have been using this rhetoric for years. Not all of them, and not all the time, but it is fairly standard. Is there a difference if he were white and spewing hate about blacks? Sure, because nobody has ever had to overcome being white. But if you listened, you would note he wasn't railing agianst all whites; he was against rich, upper-crust trustafarians (nearly all are white) who have run this country into the ground. Yes, he is heavy-handed on the race card, but that's just a style of preaching.

This doesn't sound any different then any church. I love the dance he does at the end of the FOXNews video. These video's are more entertaining then informative. You honestly can't trust anything you see on tv unless your watching a live debate or something anyways. I'm sure the videos are screwed and misinterpreted.

UpTight,

I guess you missed the part where Obama said that Jeremiah Wright sometimes says things with which he disagrees.

Ugh, I was made to sit through that for what exactly? To tell me something thats already pretty fucking clear, preachers/priests/rabbi's/whatever are often nuts. God fearing church going Americans shouldn't be too surprised at most of the stuff this guy says. I'll bet most people in his position in whatever religion hold some pretty wacky views on many, many things.

Also those comments taken out of context are much worse than what he really says. In fact he seems pretty impassioned to try to change things via powerful imagery/speeches. While I won't go so far as to say the US deserved 9/11, its not like the politicians tell the truth about it.

Does anyone really actually believe that 'the terrists' are just freedom hating psycho bat shit insane liberty despising islamofacists? That the US, through its policies and attitudes had no reason to expect something like this would happen?

I also don't see a lot of 'spitting hate'. He talks about how the country is controlled by old rich white people, but thats not exactly news is it?

I don't get it Uptight. Isn't Barrack HUSSEIN Obama a Muslim educated in a Wahhabiist madrassa where he became a stealthy al-Queda sleeper cell candidate and is also buddied up with the weathermen?

Well, whatever he is, I will set aside my rage at that black demonic creature in the pulpit that you just showed us long enough to thank you for alerting us to the fact that, whatever he is, Obama is taking orders on high from religious extremists determined to visit retribution on Amerikkka whether they march under a crescent or a cross.

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allahu akbar

WTF?

You did actually watch these clips, didn't you? If so, I'm baffled by your response. I'm outraged because what he said was outrageous.

You can't see that?

It was like a Christian Farakhan. I always thought that Calypso Louie was an aberration. A poisonous polyp on the bowel of American religion, but fairly unique. Are there more like him and Jeremiah Wright out there?

Perhaps this sort of shit is seen as "acceptable" in American churches. If Jeremiah Wright spouted this socially divisive hatred in a British pulpit he'd lose his license - possibly even face charges.

Perhaps I'm just used to nice, slightly effete, British vicars who don't stand up before a congregation and get them all angry and wound up about people of a different skin colour. Who actually try to bring people together. Who don't use their position to spread their politics (Rowan Williams excepted), to spread hate, to spread dislike of other races and who only display mild annoyance when the church roof fund is running low.

Either way - even it is is the cultural norm - it's still fucked up

I think Obama's a closet atheist personally.

er no - I quoted it

Nope, we have a first amendment that protects both speech and religion, therefore you don't get a "license" from the government and you don't "face charges" for believing in or preaching disgraceful things.

But considering your views on our Constitution, I am sure you will explain to me why this is bad.

Okay folks. If this is the cultural norm that you guys seem to think it is, then it's unfair of me to single out this guy and I apologise.

But it's still nasty and evil to use a religious premise turn people against each other.

Every now and then America still has the capacity to shock me. I guess the last time my jaw dropped like this was when Jerry Springer made his debut on UK screens.

Welcome to America, where you have First Amendment rights. You can pretty much preach whatever you want. It covers the bum standing on the street corner to the moron in the white house. He has the right to preach it, there is no right that indicates we have to listen.

This isn't anything new or exciting, if anything it's typical of the religious zealots in our nation, and churches wonder why they are seeing a decline in religion.

If I were a sixty-six year old black man, I'd probably be screaming god damn America, too.

I think it's good to criminalise hate speech. We should be free to criticise ideas, doctrines and politics. but if the constitution allows the freedom to incite hatred and provoke violence don't be too surprised at all the freely flowing racism and subsequent social discord.

that and:

"YOU DAMN KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!"

I see nothing here to cause such an outburst.

Then what does this have to do with Obama? You know how he feels about the matter.

I must have missed the calls for hatred and violence. He even says he loves his enemies, the implication being that that's what his congregation should do as well.

Turn your audio setting to "troll" and maybe you'll hear it then.

If I was a preacher of any colour, I'd be teaching people to understand the religion.If I spoke about society it would be to encourage people to rise above the negatives, to breach racial divides, embrace each others good points.