Serve and Protect

This is not an anti-cop thread.


This video is from the Hillsborough County sheriff's office.


AP Story


This video is from another thread.

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If we can't call 911, who can we call?

When you have a country who's Pesident likes to torture people...
Well look at it as the trickle down effect

LOL @ FIRST VIDEO.

It was so casual. Just a quick "DUMP" and down he goes.

The secnd video, and third video kill me. Its ust outrageous.

Do police officers have any sort of psychological testing done before they can become officers? I'm disgusted with the number of cops these days that seem to have a complete lack of anything resembling sympathy or awareness of human dignity. I realize they have to deal with some shitty characters on a regular basis, but if they cannot do that without becoming shitty characters themselves, perhaps they should be working in a non-public service job.

**taser**

Yes. It's quite intense actually.

I am disgusted with it too. It's not the easiest job on the planet, you have to deal with some really, scum of the earth people, who say and do some really shitty things to you, and you have to still treat them like gold. That's the way the job works.

The second two are from a county in Ohio. Ohio isn't doing the bestest when it comes to economy, many of our local law enforcement agencies are understaffed, under equipped and working long hours to make up for that under staffing.

This by no means excuses them for not following policy and treating a human being like this

Lately in Ohio at least, it seems like we have come to a Us versus Them type relationship with authority. Locally i can't tell you the number of times i have seen young people just outright do stuff to test the patience of police officers. It's like real life JackAss, and then the family turns around and claims harassment.

The whole situation is born from a total lack of respect on both parties. People disrespecting the authority figures, then the authority figures growing to disrespect the people they are paid to protect.

Something definitely needs to change so that things like this stop happening.

These dirtbags would have done this no matter WHO was in office. The problem with law enforcement officers is that there is not a system in place that can effectively measure the mentality of the applicants to keep out ALL of the dirtbags who want to be cops...those who just want the authority. These guys only represent 2% of the working cops.

Problem is, the woman in video 2, if she had committed suicide with something on her person after having answering the question that way, the cops would still have been wrong. That license she had should have been framed on her wall, not stuck in her wallet like she was going to use it.

Yeah, it's so funny to see law enforcement dumb a paraplegic out of his wheelchair -- possibly breaking some ribs. It totally brings the LOLs.

LOL

She never really even got to answer the question. She answered the question with another question "Right now or ever?" and then all that took place.

There is no law that says i can't carry something on my persons. I am sure almost all of us have something we carry on a daily basis that we really shouldn't because it has the potential to create confusion. This is one of the cases where "innocent until proven guilty" should of taken hold. There was a lot of confusion, the woman had just taken a beating, she grabbed the wrong license.

It was the duty of the officer to clarify the situation prior to letting it get to this level. He instantly treated her like she was guilty, and hauled her off to jail, after being the victim in an assault. There is no excuse for the way she was treated.

I suppose that argument would make sense to a person with this image for his account photo:

- repaired

Think about the pain and humiliation he must have felt. The fear. You really think that's amusing? It's disgusting.

Police misconduct is rampant across the United States
two links from Portland and Eugene, OR as example

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=police+misconduct+in+eugene%2C+oregon&ei=utf-8&fr=b1ie7

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=police+misconduct+in+portland%2C+oregon&ei=utf-8&fr=b1ie7

It's already been done. Yo, check it out, it's sensationalism, you can go on youtube.com and find hundreds of videos like this. IT's entertaining. If it hurts you so much that I can laugh at shit like this, then go start a human rights movement because you're not making any changes either.

Notice how I said the second video was outrageous and it kills me to see i.t - but on the other hand I could say, "Well she was intoxicated, and screaming and yelling like a rabid beast" - Do I think it was wrong? OF course. Now I've had guns pointed at my head from cops, I've been detained question ect - but I WAS COOPERATING THE WHOLE TIME - Watch the videos again and tell me she wasn't intoxicated and/or high on crack.

Do I think it was wrong that men strip searched her? Of course I do. But there are always two sides to ever story, do you think yelling at the top of your lungs at police officers is going to get you anywhere? Because theres plenty of evidence out there that shows acting like an uncontrollable idiot will get you detained.

But if police brutality and corruptness is new to your eyes, let me ask you, where the hell have you been?
ONWARD!

Wow, the newsboards are just full of shit that makes me want to puke today. That first video in particular is so degrading and horrendous. I even watched it again to make sure it wasn't that the chair was hung on the carpet or something. That poor soul.

Police departments might find this behavior well inside their "guidelines." What these same departments fail to understand is that American citizens find this behavior at least objectionable and often abhorrent. I certainly do.

There can be only two strategies that work for policing the public. Either you must earn their respect through the use of good judgment in the process of enforcing the law, or you obtain their respect by smashing their face under the heel of your boot. In this country, my country, there is no room for the latter.

Failure to exercise competent judgment in the execution of their duties will result in further, justified decline in respect for officers. For those that reach the point of thinking the job sucks because they see so much crap - it's time to move to a different career, because at that point the ability to exercise good judgment becomes too fragile.

Don't confuse this with disrespect for the law. The issue is officer behavior and the reaction from the populace is a natural outgrowth from unnecessary cruelty, insensibility, and the threat of despotism.

First of all, I was addressing your response to the first video, not the second. Both videos are fucked up, but my beef is particularly with the police's arbitrary and flagrant abuse of a disabled person.

Next, you don't know the shit I've been through. Have I 'started a human rights movement?' No. I don't even know what the fuck that's supposed to mean. But I do stand up for the rights and dignity of people with disabilities whenever I see them violated as they were violated by the cops in that video, and as they were violated by you for being depraved enough to find it amusing.

Finally, the fact that there are degenerate fuckheads laughing about this shit on youtube is more reason to speak out when you see it, not less. You've just made this point yourself. You think its acceptable to laugh at people in wheelchairs because people do it on youtube, and nobody says shit. If you laugh about it here and nobody says shit then we as a community run the risk of some dumbass Neanderthal fuck seeing it and saying, 'look, everybody laughs at people in wheelchairs being humiliated. It's no bid deal LOL.'

True fact: YouTube commenters are the stupidest people on the internet.

That second video is the first time a newscaster has said "this might be hard to watch" and I've agreed. My personal opinion is that there's not enough oversight on police officers. If there was, maybe this shit wouldn't happen all the time.

Does that 2% figure still smell like your ass? Y'know, the place you pulled it out of? It's strange that you begin your point with "there's no way to keep out the people that just want to push others around" but you seem so sure that 98% of cops are "the good ones." That doesn't seem to hold any water, so unless you can quote something reputable, it is, at best, an assumption based on anecdotal experience.

But here's where you're way off-base. "Problem is" that a victim in a crime was strip-searched illegally due to concerns about suicide. Do you honestly think it's remotely necessary to remove all pieces of clothing from a handcuffed person to ascertain whether or not they have access to items they could potentially kill themselves with? A less fair soul than I might think you're blaming the victim here, and it's kind of hard to argue against that supposition contextually. Regardless of where the license should have been, if you're saying that Steffey is at all culpable in the conclusion of what happened to her, you're insane.

Errr..he didn't think it was "new." He also didn't think it was funny, but you did.
DUMBWARD!

I did what you asked. This is me telling you she wasn't intoxicated and/or high on crack:

"She wasn't intoxicated and/or high on crack."

What's interesting is that it doesn't matter one way or the other. I'll say the same thing to you that I said to the other numbskull: what part of your "blame the victim" justification necessitates an illegal strip-search of a handcuffed woman?

Has it occurred to you that her yelling and screaming wasn't a strategy? I went ahead and took the news reporter's word for it and figured she was terrified. Hell, one might even say terrorized. I'm really unsure as to what else to call cops completely stripping a victim of a crime who is face down in handcuffs. Maybe you have some special moon calculus that makes sense of that math.

As to the rest, yeah, a cop dumping someone out of a wheelchair isn't funny, no matter how many YouTube posters say so.

did you even do any research on the story?????

Here, i will link it, so you don't have to do any exercise like google search

I am usually the first person to defend a cop. But there is absolutely no excuse for this.

She got assaulted. She called 911 for help. A stark county sheriff shows up, arrests her, without her ever receiving medical treatment, and then she is detained and strip searched, for no apparent reason. No offense if every right i had as an American Citizen, and as a human being were being violated in one big giant leap, i'd be screaming too. On top of that she sat in a jail cell for SIX FUCKING HOURS butt fucking naked and freezing.

She wasn't acting like an uncontrollable idiot, she was screaming in fear because she had no fucking clue what was happening, and not ONE of those officers slowed the situation down to explain to her what was going on. There was an utter fucking lack of communication on the Sheriff Department's end. They left her, naked and cold, in a cell that she never belonged in, in the first place, without even a blanket. They failed.

On top of that the Stark County Sheriffs Department is withholding more video recordings of the incident. They won't release them to the media, she's laying claim that there was more absue, and i believe her.