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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

DEC 29, 2007 03:18 PM



Seriously. A complete and total asshole, and a self-centered one at that. How many minutes after the death of Benazir Bhutto did it take for the idiots among us to point the finger at Al Qaeda? It is such a pathetic and ignorant claim that I am amazed how many now consider it truth. But who else would kill the former Prime Minister of Pakistan than America’s enemy? I think at this point we can be certain that anyone who is killed anywhere in the world was murdered by Al Qaeda.

US “experts” are popping out of the woodwork to explain to us that Al Qaeda is the only group that could possibly benefit from such an act. Many Americans will soak it up because the alternative would be to do a little reading on their own. And we are nothing more than a nation of spoon fed retards.

Look at this article in Newsweek, just one day after the assassination.


'Almost Certainly Al Qaeda'

Bruce Riedel, a former defense and intelligence official who helped make South Asia policy in the administrations of George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, says he believes Benazir Bhutto's assassination "was almost certainly the work of Al Qaeda or Al Qaeda's Pakistani allies." He says, "Their objective is to destabilize the Pakistani state, to break up the secular political parties, to break up the army so that Pakistan becomes a politically failing state in which the Islamists in time can come to power much as they have in other failing states."


Yes, in fucking deedy. That is why Al Qaeda denied involvement, as they always do when they kill people. Who else could it possibly be? They are, after all, America’s enemy and she was running for election in a DEMOCRACY. Can’t you see it? It is so obvious! No one else would ever gain from her death. Except these people:

Active and retired military, renegade intelligence and secret service elements, radical Islamic political parties, extremist Sunni movements, indigenous terrorist organizations and Afghan and Pakistani "Taliban" movements and the leader of the opposition party, Nawaz Sharif. Oh, and the president himself. Every single one of these organizations are more powerful than Al Qaeda in Pakistan and gain from her death.

And then there are some interesting facts coming out.


Police officers had frisked the 3,000 to 4,000 people attending Thursday's rally when they entered the park, but as the speakers from Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party droned on, the police abandoned many of their posts.


Huh. Did Al Qaeda get the police to abandon their posts? Because if they did, then they have a mighty impressive organization.

The government, of course, was quick to produce a damning phone call recording that implicates a leader of the Taliban.


"We have intelligence intercepts indicating that al Qaida leader Baitullah Mehsud is behind her assassination," Interior Ministry spokesman Javed Iqbal Cheema said.


Taliban, Al Qaeda, what’s the diff? And don’t pay attention to the henchman who was on the other side of that “phone call.” His name was Maulvi Sahib, which isn’t even a real name.


The last part is just an honorific and the first refers to someone who leads Friday prayers.


Oh, and “Maulvi Sahib” never calls Mehsud by name. Mehsud is only referred to as “Emir.” Also, the call was not made to Mehsud’s house, it was made to Anwar Shad’s house, where Mehsud is supposedly staying right now. Maybe I should also mention that Anwar Shah is an incredibly common name. And finally, like any good assassination organization, they had to remind each other during the phone call that they did it.


They were our men there.


Uh huh. Yeah, that is some damning evidence. Soak it up America.

And that’s not all! The Pakistani government has refused the help of many country's law enforcement agencies, such as the FBI. Oh, but you’re saying, “Why should they? They are capable.” Clearly, that is why they
hosed down the evidence of the crime one hour after the assassination.


The scene of the attack also was watered down with a high-pressure hose within an hour, washing away evidence.


That is something a government definitely does if they want to prove that Al Qaeda was responsible. Also, don’t pay any attention to Musharraf’s repeatedly ignoring Bhutto’s requests for more security.


Washington lawyer Mark A. Siegel, Bhutto's U.S. spokesman, released an e-mail that he said Bhutto had written Oct. 26, eight days after the earlier attempt on her life, complaining that Musharraf had denied her needed security measures.


It’s really looking like Al Qaeda, isn’t it? Especially when you throw in an illegal burial without an autopsy.


According to a leading lawyer, Athar Minallah, an autopsy is mandatory under Pakistan's criminal law in a case of this nature.

"It is absurd, because without autopsy it is not possible to investigate. Is the state not interested in reaching the perpetrators of this heinous crime or there was a cover-up?" Minallah said.


And let us not ignore the ridiculous explanation of her death from Musharraf’s government, which completely contradicts what many witnesses and reporters saw.


Benazir Bhutto died from a fractured skull caused by hitting her head on part of her car's sunroof as a bomb ripped through a crowd of her supporters, a spokesman for Pakistan's Interior Ministry said Friday.


Really? You guys don’t think those two bullets that hit her head and neck had anything to do with her death?


Shots rang out and Pakistan's former prime minister and the leader of the Pakistan People's Party slumped back into the vehicle, blood pouring from her head. Three to five shots were fired, with at least one shot hitting her in the neck, witnesses said.


And don’t pay any attention to the people who were with her when she died.


Babar Awan, a senior official of Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party, said of the sunroof theory: "That is a false claim." He said he'd seen her body after the attack and there were at least two bullet marks, one in the neck and one on the top of the head: "It was a targeted, planned killing. The firing was from more than one side."


Please ignore the initial statements from the government and doctors confirming the eyewitness’ claims. Statements that did not occur in the heat of the moment, but rather hours and a day after her death.


On Thursday, hours after Bhutto's death, the Pakistani Interior Ministry said she died from a gunshot wound to the neck, with the gunman firing as Bhutto stood through the open sunroof of her vehicle while leaving a rally in Rawalpindi.


Please don't ignore the later, changing statements.


But on Friday, the Interior Ministry said Bhutto was killed by shrapnel from the explosion.


Then, hours later, the ministry said she died from a skull fracture suffered when she either fell or ducked into the car as a result of the shots or the explosion and crashed her head into a sunroof latch.


Okey dokey. The doctors were the ones who said Bhutto had died from gunshots, then they went away and the government took over. All statements since have come from government sources, you know, the people who killed her. By the way, Al Qaeda is known for using bombs.


However, Al Qaeda has rarely, if ever, used gunmen in assassination attempts.


Bhutto’s fellow party members think the Al Qaeda claim is a load of shit.


"Those who want to create this impression that the attack was carried out by al Qaeda and the Taliban actually do not want to real faces behind the incident to be exposed," Farhadullah Babar, a party spokesman, told the BBC's Urdu service. "They are spreading such rumors to divert attention."

PPP members have also contended that Bhutto died from a gunshot to the neck.


But, don’t worry, we’ve got our man on the job.


Musharraf, a critical ally in the Bush administration's war on terrorism, has vowed to root out violent Islamic extremists from the tribal belt bordering Afghanistan and during an address to the nation on Thursday night said Bhutto's assassination "was the action of the same terrorists against whom we are at war."


Oh, I’m sure it was the same terrorists, because I’m completely retarded. Anyone who believes this is the work of Al Qaeda is a fucking moron. The president’s foe was just killed when a bullet entered her neck. Not to hard to figure this one out, considering he is a military man. But, maybe we should give him another $10 billion in untraceable cash payments, considering he’s fighting Al Qaeda for us. Because, as we all know, the Bush administration makes one great call after another in that area of the world.


Bhutto returned to Pakistan from exile in October partly at the urging of the Bush administration, which saw a renewed role for her as the best hope for returning the country to democracy and stability.


Maybe when you pressure someone to return, you should make sure they are safe from the dictator you have been supporting. Just a tip.

undeserving

undeserving

Newnan, GA
October 2004

DEC 30, 2007 09:36 AM

all who didn't see this one coming say "aye"....


*crickets*

gogogone

gogogone

I'm lost
May 2004

DEC 30, 2007 09:43 AM

right on! full of shit! The fact that the USA has not even responded in a statement (that I have seen--admittedly I live overseas) just makes me sick.

MarcMerm

MarcMerm

West Hempstead, NY
April 2007

DEC 30, 2007 09:45 AM

Wow, to think a president who seized control in a coup and is not listening to the courts to give up that power and keeps disbanding them in a country where violence is the way to solve problems would not want the most popular of his rivals protected? That's crazy!

Alfaduetto

Alfaduetto

Greeneville, TN
May 2004

DEC 30, 2007 09:51 AM

If we need an excuse to invade Pakistan to "save" democracy, just kill a democratically elected official. That way we can go in to at least look around, and perhaps hunt down OB. He was created by the West anyway, he has just outlived his usefulness, not unlike Oswald. I concede that the CIA's mission is to do things covertly, outside the law, but they are just so painfully crappy at it.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

DEC 30, 2007 10:01 AM

Alfaduetto said:
If we need an excuse to invade Pakistan to "save" democracy, just kill a democratically elected official. That way we can go in to at least look around, and perhaps hunt down OB. He was created by the West anyway, he has just outlived his usefulness, not unlike Oswald. I concede that the CIA's mission is to do things covertly, outside the law, but they are just so painfully crappy at it.



It is something they are mulling over.


"I think the president's going to have to take military action there over the next few weeks or months. ... Bush has to disrupt that sanctuary."

"I think, frankly, we won't even tell Musharraf," Kristol continued. "We'll do what we have to do in Western Pakistan and Musharraf can say, 'Hey, they didn't tell me.'"



Kristol

Eadan

Eadan

Yosemite National Park, CA
November 2006

DEC 30, 2007 10:16 AM

Sounds like all Reaper needs is a grassy knoll and he'll have a delightful New Year.

Tough call - believe the educated opinions of trained experts who have spent their lives studying Pakistan, or, listen to the angry ramblings of a SG "Editor" who seems incapable of stringing two organized and accurate thoughts together without using every possible vulgar word he can (sounds like someone is struggling to sound "hip").

Call me silly, but SG is about the last place I would visit if I'm in search of professional and educated opinions about international political issues. Reaper's contribution on this topic is less as a "Political Editor" and more as Comical Relief. But hey, he gets to swear a lot and I'm sure that endears him to his fellow rebels on the site who need precious little ignition to fuel their own engines of misguided indignation.

bluegiant

bluegiant

United Kingdom
October 2006

DEC 30, 2007 10:19 AM

Nighsight said:
Sounds like all Reaper needs is a grassy knoll and he'll have a delightful New Year.

Tough call - believe the educated opinions of trained experts who have spent their lives studying Pakistan, or, listen to the angry ramblings of a SG "Editor" who seems incapable of stringing two organized and accurate thoughts together without using every possible vulgar word he can (sounds like someone is struggling to sound "hip").

Call me silly, but SG is about the last place I would visit if I'm in search of professional and educated opinions about international political issues. Reaper's contribution on this topic is less as a "Political Editor" and more as Comical Relief. But hey, he gets to swear a lot and I'm sure that endears him to his fellow rebels on the site who need precious little ignition to fuel their own engines of misguided indignation.



Translation: '"I'm on this site for the titties!" tongue

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

DEC 30, 2007 10:20 AM

Nighsight said:
Sounds like all Reaper needs is a grassy knoll and he'll have a delightful New Year.

Tough call - believe the educated opinions of trained experts who have spent their lives studying Pakistan, or, listen to the angry ramblings of a SG "Editor" who seems incapable of stringing two organized and accurate thoughts together without using every possible vulgar word he can (sounds like someone is struggling to sound "hip").

Call me silly, but SG is about the last place I would visit if I'm in search of professional and educated opinions about international political issues. Reaper's contribution on this topic is less as a "Political Editor" and more as Comical Relief. But hey, he gets to swear a lot and I'm sure that endears him to his fellow rebels on the site who need precious little ignition to fuel their own engines of misguided indignation.



If you think swearing = hipness, you're a fucking moron.

Oh, and if you actually read what the experts were saying, you would see that they agree with me. Now you're a double fucking moron. (Look, I swore! I'm "hip!")

chlo_ee_blo_ee

chlo_ee_blo_ee

I'm lost
December 2007

DEC 30, 2007 10:21 AM

What an entirely sloppy cover up, truly. Yet, I can see a terrorist claim as at least slightly visible; at her rally, she was heavily denouncing terrorist organizations However, you're overly confident on your claims -arrogance kills perspective, and is nothing but narrow-minded in retrospect. You're just an example of the other side of a polarized spectrum.

Tahloolah

Tahloolah

Buffalo, NY
November 2007

DEC 30, 2007 10:22 AM

Lets be honest here, the likely hood of our own government having involvement in the assisination is much higher than Al Quaida.... As mentioned above...when have they EVER denied involvement in anything sticky? There's usually some kind of video of Al Quaida released with them jumping on tramplines screaming "WE DID IT! WE DID IT!" as soon as this kind of thing goes down.
Maybe it's more like, the opposing political party had a hit put out on her. She IS a woman. That ALONE....And lets not forget the Bush love for invading middle-eastern countries...

But Al Quaida did it guys....they just haven't decided to send out the "We Did It" cookies.

Tahloolah

Tahloolah

Buffalo, NY
November 2007

DEC 30, 2007 10:26 AM

And by the way.... I love Reaper's swearing.
Cussing and politics get me hot.
And if you don't want to read his opinions... keep your eyes in the BOOBIES section. DUH

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

DEC 30, 2007 10:52 AM

Yeah, I thought the Al Qaeda finger pointing was pretty funny too. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, keep your eyes on the giant terrorists please.

ongoingnightmare

ongoingnightmare

Denver, CO
April 2003

DEC 30, 2007 11:15 AM

Damn the Al-CIA-Duh biggrin

Tiger_Fodder

Tiger_Fodder

Braintree, MA
June 2007

DEC 30, 2007 11:17 AM

Al Qaeda is the "red menace" or rather herring of our time. By the way it was Al Qaeda's doing that the Giants could not beat the Patriots last night. Fuckers!

ANNEKE

ANNEKE

I'm lost
February 2007

DEC 30, 2007 11:22 AM

first of all a tribute , a beautiful face, a passionate heart and an eloquent tongue, this is very typical , the bush/cheney crime family continue to support this dictatorship, and does any one else find it ironic that mr nepropontie visted her . jeez thats like that cat at the nursing home

Shibumi01

Shibumi01

I'm lost
November 2007

DEC 30, 2007 11:26 AM

MarcMerm said:
Wow, to think a president who seized control in a coup and is not listening to the courts to give up that power and keeps disbanding them in a country where violence is the way to solve problems would not want the most popular of his rivals protected? That's crazy!



oh, oh you were talking about pakistan, not the the usa, my bad. all sounds a bit orwelliean to me. al qeada, taliban. they're all against "oceania" and its allies. have you had your "two minutes of hate" for osama lately? "it's the brotherhood" behind all of this. aren't you listening or has doublespeak got you confused>

oh, great town you live in...grew up in hempstead, just east of west...lol

hellboy7

hellboy7

Austin, TX
July 2004

DEC 30, 2007 11:37 AM

Nighsight said:
Sounds like all Reaper needs is a grassy knoll and he'll have a delightful New Year.

Tough call - believe the educated opinions of trained experts who have spent their lives studying Pakistan, or, listen to the angry ramblings of a SG "Editor" who seems incapable of stringing two organized and accurate thoughts together without using every possible vulgar word he can (sounds like someone is struggling to sound "hip").

Call me silly, but SG is about the last place I would visit if I'm in search of professional and educated opinions about international political issues. Reaper's contribution on this topic is less as a "Political Editor" and more as Comical Relief. But hey, he gets to swear a lot and I'm sure that endears him to his fellow rebels on the site who need precious little ignition to fuel their own engines of misguided indignation.



He was pulling from sources and offering no conjecture on his own, no opinion other than irony and sarcasm. Bhutto's death stinks to high hell of a cover up, and no one in the Bush administration is doing a damn thing about it other than spin. Dollars to donuts they use the Al Qaeda excuse to define their actions in the coming months. Nevermind it has been an ongoing MO since the beginning of the Afgan invasion. Its not a conspiracy, it's standard operating procedure.

mattacme

mattacme

Calistoga, CA
February 2006

DEC 30, 2007 11:40 AM

There are a host of individuals and groups that are reasonable suspects and Al Queda is low amongst them, though by no means out of the question. The powers that be pointing to Bin Laden are just doing what they believe they must to keep the focus where they have so successfully been able to keep it (and off everything else). But lets face it, Bhutto was no choir girl either and in spite of the praise being heaped upon her and her family posthumously was as much a player of Pakistani passions as the sitting President. As fucked up as we are they are really screwed to the bone.

The issues in Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc. are not readily grasped nor easily synopsized. Deliberate and sober study, along with living there for at least a while help, but like the former Yugoslavia, this region is beyond the comprehension of most and defies logical thought.

I hope that our recent experiences in the middle east have taught us to be more circumspect than we have lately been and that "He tried to kill my daddy" rationale will be abandoned in favor of more far reaching and thinking methods.

jcutler

jcutler

Long Island City, NY
October 2006

DEC 30, 2007 11:42 AM

Thanks FTR. You hit the nail on the head. I've been following this story since Thursday and all that's happened is cover-up after cover-up and al Qaeda finger-pointing. It's been blatant and ridiculous, especially considering how just about every person living in Pakistan thinks Musharraf's party did it....

And here's an article from the Washington Post concerning U.S. troops being deployed into Pakistan next year. This happened RIGHT BEFORE the assassination. Connections?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2007/12/musharrafs_woes_have_opened_a.html?nav=rss_blog

defaultx

defaultx

I'm lost
February 2006

DEC 30, 2007 12:03 PM

and the beat goes on.

Eadan

Eadan

Yosemite National Park, CA
November 2006

DEC 30, 2007 12:15 PM

Trying to find fault with someone who enjoys looking at photos of beautiful women on a site ostensibly dedicated to showcasing beauty in its many forms strikes me as an odd counterpoint, but each to his / her own.

There is a fair amount of content (visual or otherwise) that at times makes SG an enjoyable, even informative, visit. However, when it comes to the latter, I personally find Reaper's contributions, especially given his position as Political Editor, to be significantly devoid of original (or intelligent) thought and journalistic acumen. I rarely read him; the problem with cutting and pasting other people's work is that you have nothing original to say. Maybe that's what the vulgarity is meant to mask.

If you're 40 years old and still haven't learned how to deal with criticism of your work without resorting to the habits of a second grader (i.e., name-calling), isn't it an act of moronism to think you'll be taken seriously?

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

DEC 30, 2007 12:20 PM

Nighsight said:
Trying to find fault with someone who enjoys looking at photos of beautiful women on a site ostensibly dedicated to showcasing beauty in its many forms strikes me as an odd counterpoint, but each to his / her own.

There is a fair amount of content (visual or otherwise) that at times makes SG an enjoyable, even informative, visit. However, when it comes to the latter, I personally find Reaper's contributions, especially given his position as Political Editor, to be significantly devoid of original (or intelligent) thought and journalistic acumen. I rarely read him; the problem with cutting and pasting other people's work is that you have nothing original to say. Maybe that's what the vulgarity is meant to mask.

If you're 40 years old and still haven't learned how to deal with criticism of your work without resorting to the habits of a second grader (i.e., name-calling), isn't it an act of moronism to think you'll be taken seriously?


I LOL'ED!!!
surreal

skull_kid

skull_kid

I'm lost
November 2007

DEC 30, 2007 12:37 PM

I've been away for awhile. SG news was always more editorial than news, but it never seemed to throw in pre-emptive name-calling.

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 30, 2007 12:45 PM

Nighsight said:
Sounds like all Reaper needs is a grassy knoll and he'll have a delightful New Year.

Tough call - believe the educated opinions of trained experts who have spent their lives studying Pakistan, or, listen to the angry ramblings of a SG "Editor" who seems incapable of stringing two organized and accurate thoughts together without using every possible vulgar word he can (sounds like someone is struggling to sound "hip").

Call me silly, but SG is about the last place I would visit if I'm in search of professional and educated opinions about international political issues. Reaper's contribution on this topic is less as a "Political Editor" and more as Comical Relief. But hey, he gets to swear a lot and I'm sure that endears him to his fellow rebels on the site who need precious little ignition to fuel their own engines of misguided indignation.



You're right. People without credentials shouln't debunk things on the internet.

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