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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

DEC 20, 2007 03:11 PM



No, not Indians from India, the other kind. I’m talking about American Indians. American indigenous peoples or whatever. I don’t know what to call anyone, anymore. I’m writing about the guys who were here first. The ones we white folks had a little genocide thingy with. They are getting uppity again. In this case it is a tribe from Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana and Wyoming.


The Lakota Indians, who gave the world legendary warriors Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse, have withdrawn from treaties with the United States, leaders said Wednesday.


Oh, shit. Did you guys not see what we did to Iraq? We didn’t even have a good reason, we just made stuff up and turned their country into shit and now you are breaking free? Good luck with that.


We are no longer citizens of the United States of America and all those who live in the five-state area that encompasses our country are free to join us.


Ha! How the hell are you going to make money? Huh?

Lakota leaders went to the State Department on Monday to announce that they were withdrawing from treaties with the US. They also stopped by the Bolivian, Chilean, South African and Venezuelan embassies to tell them what was up. Over the next few months they will travel across the world to meet with foreign countries.


The new country would issue its own passports and driving licenses, and living there would be tax-free -- provided residents renounce their US citizenship.


I can think of a few million Americans who would jump on board. We love our free stuff but hate our taxes.

The Lakota are a band of seven tribes that speak three different dialects. There are approximately 100,000 Lakota people living in the five state area.



According to their leaders, America has not been treating them so well.


The treaties signed with the United States are merely "worthless words on worthless paper," the Lakota freedom activists say. The treaties have been "repeatedly violated in order to steal our culture, our land and our ability to maintain our way of life.”


Okay, we may have made a couple of little violations, like in 1868, when the US government signed a treaty exempting the Black Hills from all white settlement forever. But we didn’t know there was gold in them hills. Four years later, gold was discovered and we charged in with help from guys like General George Armstrong Custer.

We also kind of massacred a bunch of Lakota at Wounded Knee. Not really sure how that fit into the treaty. But massacres were totally en vogue back then. The Lakota are apparently within their legal rights to end their treaty with the US.


This is according to the laws of the United States, specifically article six of The Constitution. It is also within the laws on treaties passed at the Vienna Convention and put into effect by the US and the rest of the international community in 1980. We are legally within our rights to be free and independent.


In September the United Nations passed a non-binding declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples. The US was, of course, opposed. But it gave the Lakota the juice they needed to make their big move.

Life has not been going great for the Lakota while under US rule. Lakota men currently have the shortest life span expectancies in the world; just 44 years. Teen suicide rates are 150% higher than in the US. Infant mortality is five times higher than the US – and our infant mortality rate is atrocious.


An estimated 2 million babies die within their first 24 hours each year worldwide and the United States has the second worst newborn mortality rate in the developed world.


I wish them luck but they have no chance. If there is one mineral or a drop of water on their land we will not let them go. We are the United States of America and they are our victims. End of story.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

DEC 21, 2007 09:09 AM

Why....... Man I got nothing here this is just going to end horribly for all people involved......

code_red

code_red

Portland, OR
July 2005

DEC 21, 2007 09:13 AM

for some reason the only thing that keeps popping into my head is Petoria... Good luck with that whole 'new country' idea.

I wonder if this counts as supporting terrorism? confused

AshenLight

AshenLight

USA
October 2005

DEC 21, 2007 09:18 AM

Good for them! If they opened an East Coast branch, I'd give it serious thought...

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

DEC 21, 2007 09:22 AM

Speaking as a local, more power to them. I hope they can make it stick.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

DEC 21, 2007 09:22 AM

i am holding out hope for a renegotiation of treaties, public apologies for the treaty violations at issue here, and it leading to the drastic improvement of the quality of life on on current(/former?) reservations.

i don't believe it will happen, as i'm sure Lincoln and the Civil Wary might be cited as precedence. if the administration even bothers with even that much of an explanation for whatever thuggish actions it takes.

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

DEC 21, 2007 09:28 AM

...wow, that's really something I didn't expect to see happen in my lifetime.

I'd be really surprised if it went well, though. We have a history of squishing people who want to take territory away from us, and that's under administrations much more reasonable than this one.

bairdduvessa

bairdduvessa

Centerville, MA
April 2005

DEC 21, 2007 09:33 AM

i fully support the Lakota Sioux and their decision

bendingunit23

bendingunit23

Victoria, BC
April 2005

DEC 21, 2007 09:35 AM

good luck lakota peoples

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

DEC 21, 2007 09:37 AM

Interesting. I have a Lakotan dollar on the administration not even responding to them--damn uppity indians.

Bleeder

Bleeder

USA
August 2003

DEC 21, 2007 09:38 AM

bairdduvessa said:
i fully support the Lakota Sioux and their decision



Agreed.

Ms_Magdalena

Ms_Magdalena

Minneapolis, MN
February 2007

DEC 21, 2007 09:39 AM

bairdduvessa said:
i fully support the Lakota Sioux and their decision



Fixed.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
Most tribes consider the name "Sioux" to be an insult, fyi.

Kleio

Kleio

Winona, MN
January 2006

DEC 21, 2007 09:41 AM

FearTheReaper said:

Life has not been going great for the Lakota while under US rule. Lakota men currently have the shortest life span expectancies in the world; just 44 years. Teen suicide rates are 150% higher than in the US. Infant mortality is 5 times higher than the US %u2013 and our infant mortality rate is atrocious.


An estimated 2 million babies die within their first 24 hours each year worldwide and the United States has the second worst newborn mortality rate in the developed world.



Let's not forget the way we treat indiginous women.

Yeah, it'd be nice to see this government start treating the Lakota and all the rest of the Native Americans in this country with some fucking respect. They're people too, ffs.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

DEC 21, 2007 09:42 AM

Ms_Magdalena said:
]Most tribes consider the name "Sioux" to be an insult, fy]

Do you know why?

Oktavia

Oktavia

HOPEFUL

Euless, TX

DEC 21, 2007 09:43 AM

I totally support the Lakota. Passport plz? <3

Ms_Magdalena

Ms_Magdalena

Minneapolis, MN
February 2007

DEC 21, 2007 09:47 AM

emotedcreations said:

Ms_Magdalena said:
]Most tribes consider the name "Sioux" to be an insult, fy]

Do you know why?



It's considered derogatory. The term originated from another Nation's name for them, and was widely believed to mean "snake."

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

DEC 21, 2007 09:48 AM

emotedcreations said:

Ms_Magdalena said:
]Most tribes consider the name "Sioux" to be an insult, fy]

Do you know why?



I don't know specifics, myself. But from what I recall the names the American colonists gave to the various indigenous tribes often came from rival tribes who, as one might suspect, did not have complimentary things to say about them.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

DEC 21, 2007 09:50 AM

Gotcha, thanks you two. All hail linguistic self-determination.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

DEC 21, 2007 09:51 AM

emotedcreations said:
Interesting. I have a Lakotan dollar on the administration not even responding to them--damn uppity indians.


That'd be my guess, too. Or else taking them to court to squeeze some money out of them for this somehow. Or perhaps just taking it as an excuse for seizing and parcelling out all reservation land for Cheney's favorite golfing-companions.

Postblank

Postblank

New Brunswick, NJ
June 2004

DEC 21, 2007 09:52 AM

There's about three ways this could end and none of them are very favorable outcomes for the Lakota.

Ms_Magdalena

Ms_Magdalena

Minneapolis, MN
February 2007

DEC 21, 2007 09:53 AM

emotedcreations said:
Gotcha, thanks you two. All hail linguistic self-determination.



RickyHell

RickyHell

Tucson, AZ
October 2006

DEC 21, 2007 09:53 AM

This makes me so happy and so sad at the same time. I wonder where John Trudell is in all of this?

Ascanius

Ascanius

USA
October 2006

DEC 21, 2007 09:56 AM

Lakota Power!

bairdduvessa

bairdduvessa

Centerville, MA
April 2005

DEC 21, 2007 09:58 AM

Ms_Magdalena said:

bairdduvessa said:
i fully support the Lakota Sioux and their decision



Fixed.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
Most tribes consider the name "Sioux" to be an insult, fyi.



just using what was written.

Ms_Magdalena

Ms_Magdalena

Minneapolis, MN
February 2007

DEC 21, 2007 10:01 AM

bairdduvessa said:

Ms_Magdalena said:

bairdduvessa said:
i fully support the Lakota Sioux and their decision



Fixed.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
Most tribes consider the name "Sioux" to be an insult, fyi.



just using what was written.



And I meant no offence by the correction.

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