NEWS: Pelosi Is A Worthless, Compromised Piece Of Shit

POLITICS: Pelosi Is A Worthless, Compromised Piece Of Shit

Get Nancy Pelosi the fuck out of her leadership role as Speaker of the House. The woman is supposed to be battling George Bush on basic issues like torture, but she is totally complicit in the administration’s activities. She has known about them for a long, long time and to take any action would force her to reveal her acceptance of the administration's bullshit.

Oh, good. She should really get to the bottom of the situation then. I mean, why wouldn't she want to expose the fact that she knew about illegal activities in 2002?

That was the year Nancy, Rep. Jane Harman, Sen. Bob Graham, Sen. John Rockefeller IV, Rep. Porter Goss and Sen. Pat Roberts were told all about the CIA program to “wring vial information” out of suspects who didn’t want to give it up. They were given a virtual tour of detention sites and interrogation techniques. And Nancy said nothing. Being one of only a few Democrats who actually knew about the practice, one might come to the conclusion that she has no place being the leader of the House of Representatives because she is compromised on an act that was illegal under the Geneva Conventions.

I’m not going to say that the Democrats asked the CIA to push harder. Goss eventually was put in charge of the CIA, so you can be pretty sure he was one of the two who wanted the prisoners to get staple enemas.

Only one Democrat objected to the torture: Jane Harmon, who was at that point the second ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. Harmon sent a classified letter to the CIA to officially protest the program. She was not allowed to publicly discuss the program.

Harmon’s actions now shed light on a strange move by Nancy Pelosi when she took over as Speaker. Harmon was supposed to be picked to lead the House Intelligence Committee, but Pelosi gave the job to someone else. Considering Harmon was the only one who sent a letter to the CIA objecting, it is an interesting move by Pelosi.

This is not the first time Pelosi’s judgment has been questioned. When the New York Times exposed the administration’s illegal wiretapping programs, Alberto Gonzales let this little gem slip.

Hmm. “Certain members of Congress.” Considering Pelosi’s leadership role, it would be very surprising if she was not one of those who informed. She was part of the “Gang of Four.”

These circumstances make a good case for removing Pelosi from her leadership role. If she is unwilling to go after the administration because she does not want to expose her own complicity, then it is a major problem. With what is going on now, the person in charge needs to be clean on the issues.

- Nancy Pelosi

for fucks sake...I thought something was bizzare when she said that impeachment was out of the question...damnit.

welcome to america. next time i go over there, i'm bringing a snorkel, just in case.

There is another little gem of a statement that should have clued people in to which side of the fence she is on.

"The Democrats are back and the sky is the limit."

This was said to a group of about 200+ K street lobbyists the evening she took over as speaker of the house. The same K street lobbyists she spent the previous six years condemning.

"What's that smell?"

"That? That's do nothing Congress II: The Democrats."

Remember this the next time anyone complains about one side or the other pulling stupid stunts and assaulting our rights, they can only get away with it for as long as the other party is willing to look the other way. and for the entire bush term the democrats have been willing to look the other way.

Some of these assholes being "tortured" may know about plans to kill you, your family, and everyone else who doesn't bow to them. Torture is a horrible thing, but not as bad as nukes going off in cities. Look up Pictures of children burned at Hiroshima. Some of these assholes being "tortured" are planning to do that same thing, on a bigger scale, all over the world. If they have to suffer a few seconds without air to stop that, then fuck them, they don't get air.

She has issued a tepid press release today, which seems to suggest that she has no moral compass of her own and that she offered what appears to be silent support for Harmon's efforts.

Her Statement

I can (almost) appreciate the delicacy with which we democrats must proceed as we seek to elect a democratic president and increase our positions in the house and senate. However, this appears to be a total prostitution of our principles; abandoning our core beliefs in some bizarre effort to rally the middle of the road voters who apparently support this form of torture under the belief that it makes them safer

Or they may tell you nothing of value so that those plans actually come to fruition. Your assuming that everything people say under torture is the absolute truth, it's not if you torture anyone enough they will tell you what you want to hear to stop the torture. Life is not the movies, there is no script where the good guys always win.

Hi there. "24" is a television show. It's a work of fiction, and while the idea that torturing someone to stop the bomb from going off with 3 seconds on the clock is compelling drama, it's complete bullshit in real life.

It's been documented and verified over and over again that torture doesn't work, doesn't result in actionable intelligence, and only serves to create more terrorists and more hatred of the United States.

We like to think of ourselves as The Good Guys. Guess what? As long as things like this are happening, we are not The Good Guys, and voters put the Democrats and Pelosi into the majority so that our government could take steps away from the disaster of Bush and the neo-cons, back toward being The Good Guys.

It's pretty fucking clear that Pelosi and the Democratic leadership in both houses of congress have done fuckall to take those steps, and Democratic voters need to elect new congresscritters who will.

If that doesn't work, it's time for second American revolution.

You live in Oklahoma City. Is it possible that you may know about future bombings that might happen there? You should probably be tortured just in case. I mean, a bomb is worse than you being tortured, right?

Really, even ignoring morality for one second, torture has been discredited as a means of gaining information by just about every intelligence agency in the world. only idiots who think that episodes of 24 are some sort of documentary believe this shit.

Ok, lets round up your entire family and torture them, lets also round up some militants picked up in Afghanistan because they were sold by the head to the US army.

Lets torture you and your family and these militants all together as one big group.
After all, "some" of this group might know about a terrorist plot! Who knows!
Gotta torture them all (and you) I guess, just to be sure!

How up-to-date do you think the "vital information" is? Wouldn't the people who WEREN'T captured maybe . . . change their plans? Or they might make something up to get the torture to stop? There are many more accurate methods to extract information than making someone think they are drowning.

In fact any person with a mental capacity above a 4 year old may be thinking about engaging in acts of terrorism! I guess we just have to set up some camps and start torturing 5 billion people, right away, just to protect ourselves!
Our magic water-boarding torture terrormeter will filter out all the bad guys! It has a 100% positive rate!

Turns out, if you tie a witch to a stone and throw her into a lake and she drowns, she was a witch, and must have deserved it!

+!

More frightening to me is that columns like this still act so enraged when things like this see the light of day. Where is the source of your eternal optimism? This is Washington, folks.

Alright, here's the thing, see torture...

...Waaaaaait a minute! I get it! Oho, you almost got me! I actually thought you were serious for a minute, but now I see you were just making up the same old-bullshit arguments because you like being bitchslapped by everyone in the threads who has a working brain. That's pretty clever.

Regardless of everything else torture is patently wrong...the ends do not justify the means.... That is what due process, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights are all about... and what this country was supposed to be about.
It seems our government as of late has forgotten that, along with many of our citizens...real shame...

Since we are confusing reality with fiction.
I think you're all confused mate. The best way to prevent a Kraken from attacking your ship, is to make the person with the black spot walk the plank.

Bitchslapping is not covered by the Geneva Conventions FYI.

Odd how she concurred yet never wrote a letter of her own and passed Harman over for the committee position.

We should torture Pelosi, because she obviously has vital information about U.S. terrorist activities.

Can I volunteer some others...please?!

People like you scare me more than the "terrorists" do.

Let's make sure too that it happens at some random date, when they're plucked from bed in the middle of the night without warning, so they don't have time to physically or mentally prepare for it, like any other US torture victim.

And remember all you torture enthusiasts - you've been found guilty or proven to have knowledge of exactly the same crimes most of the people we torture have (which is to say, none), so don't come back with some whiny "but I'm not a terrorist!" objection.