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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

DEC 09, 2007 03:34 AM





Finally, the government is privitizing domestic spying. I feel so safe now. When I think of America, I usually envision large companies sifting through all of my information, my home and hopefully, my unmentionables. Thankfully, this dream is coming true. Up until this point, information from domestic spy satellites was only used by scientific agencies. After 9/11, the NSA was given powers that allowed it to monitor domestic communications without getting those pesky warrants. And now the Bush administration is blowing it out!



Under a proposal being reviewed by Congress, a National Applications Office will be established to coordinate how the Department of Homeland Security and domestic law enforcement and rescue agencies use imagery and communications intelligence picked up by U.S. spy satellites. If the plan goes forward, the NAO will create the legal mechanism for an unprecedented degree of domestic intelligence gathering that would make the United States one of the world's most closely monitored nations.



Sweet. Monitor the shit out of us. We used to have this stupid law that confined intelligence collection to foreign countries and battlefields. Not anymore. And let's make sure private companies are a huge part of it, because they never do anything wrong and have continually shown throughout history that they can be trusted.



The intelligence-sharing system to be managed by the NAO will rely heavily on private contractors, including Boeing, BAE Systems, L-3 Communications and Science Applications International Corporation.



Mmmmm, safety. Nothing makes me feel safer than knowing BAE Systems has my back. Also my front. And my unmentionables.



Last month all the private domestic spy companies went to the intelligence conference in San Antonio and lobbied intelligence officials, in a giant, disgusting, display of everything that is wrong with our country. But, hey, those companies are the ones who told the government that we needed to expand our domestic spying, so bravo.



A study group was put together by a couple of government agencies and they thought it would be a great idea to use former intelligence officers. Many of them just happened to be employed by private intelligence companies, like Booz Allen. Guess what crazy conclusion they came up with?



Not surprisingly, its contractor-advisers called for a major expansion in the domestic use of the spy satellites that they sell to the government. Since the end of the Cold War and particularly since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, they said, the "threats to the nation have changed, and there is a growing interest in making available the special capabilities of the intelligence community to all parts of the government, to include homeland security and law enforcement entities and on a higher priority basis."



Word. We think you should give us money to do stuff. Lots of stuff. Oh, did I mention we're going to need lots of money? To do that stuff we said should be done? Thanks for asking. Hey, you know that thing I said we should be doing with that satellite? Turns out I can totally do that. And it will only cost millions of dollars. How weird is it that I am the guy who is able to do what I said needed to be done? For money?



The domestic spying contracts are worth billions of dollars and this is a brand new business. The new plan was revealed in August and caught some people off guard. Bennie G. Thompson, a Democratic member of Congress from Mississippi and the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee was surprised when he read about it in the Wall Street Journal.



There was no briefing, no hearing, and no phone call from anyone on your staff to any member of this committee of why, how or when satellite imagery would be shared with police and sheriffs' officers nationwide.



Well, that is probably because most Americans don't want to be spied on. Duh. Actually, maybe I'm just being an alarmist and blowing this all out of proportion.



"It will terrify you if you really understand the capabilities of satellites," warned Jane Harman, a Democratic member of Congress from California. "Even if this program is well-designed and executed, someone somewhere else could hijack it."



Oh.



So far the NAO has been delayed. It was supposed to kick off on October 1st, but annoying Congress members and civil rights hippies have been making noise. Of course, later we will learn that the Bush administration did not delay the program. And then when we try to investigate, we won't be able to because all the information is "classified." This entire program will always be classified, which is awesome, because it is watching us.



America is going forward, and as we do so, we must remain keenly aware of the threats to our country.



Those in authority should take appropriate precautions to protect our citizens. But we will not allow this enemy to win the war by changing our way of life or restricting our freedoms.


- George W. Bush, September 12, 2001.

freshprncebelair

freshprncebelair

Ellicott City, MD
June 2004

DEC 09, 2007 09:11 AM



Finally, the government is privitizing domestic spying. I feel so safe now. When I think of America, I usually envision large companies sifting through all of my information, my home and hopefully, my unmentionables. Thankfully, this dream is coming true.



It's speculated that contractors already make up over 50% of CIA capabilities (the exact amount is classified). Of course this is a major problem. The other problem is that since we have trained so many intelligence operators, they have gone to these private companies. And these private companies have gone international, some headquartering in Dubai or other tax free locales. And completing the puzzle is that China is starting to get in on the contractor game.


"It will terrify you if you really understand the capabilities of satellites," warned Jane Harman, a Democratic member of Congress from California. "Even if this program is well-designed and executed, someone somewhere else could hijack it."



The best satellite it is known the Air Force has is a 3.5m Adaptive Optics satellite. Conservatively speaking, this means a 1cm resolution.

However, there isn't much you can do with a satellite image to grossly invade privacy, and additionally, private companies can already put up their own satellites (some already have) as there isn't much we can do about it, being space and all (and we don't want to show off our satellite destruction tech)

mingol

mingol

Singapore
July 2005

DEC 09, 2007 09:27 AM

And one more domino falls.

You know, there was a time when I thought Singapore was an overpoliced surveillance state, and looked to the U.S. as an inspiring alternative. Now it's pretty much the other way around. I never thought I'd see the day.

pastthetaste

pastthetaste

I'm lost
February 2004

DEC 09, 2007 09:36 AM

is anyone really that shocked by this stuff anymore? i'm shocked it took em this long. frown

michael9000000

michael9000000

New York, NY
July 2007

DEC 09, 2007 09:37 AM

Aren't we being a bit over-dramatic here?

Moonrabbit

Moonrabbit

Kingston, ON
February 2005

DEC 09, 2007 09:45 AM

michael9000000 said:
Aren't we being a bit over-dramatic here?



Not to sound paranoid here or anything. But that is the kind of attitude that lets things like this be put into place unchallenged.
They count on it being too inconvenient for us to stand up for ourselves.

Oz_the_Vamp

Oz_the_Vamp

Lorain, OH
June 2005

DEC 09, 2007 09:56 AM

Uhh... if all these people are spying on all of us, then why the fuck didn't anyone stop the shootings in Omaha and Denver this week? Because, I mean... they had to know these people were going to commit these crimes, yet they did nothing. Oh wait, it's just like 9/11 all over again. I'll go crawl back into my coffin now.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

DEC 09, 2007 09:57 AM

michael9000000 said:
Aren't we being a bit over-dramatic here?



No, we're not. We're bending over and taking this shit, no dinner, no movie and no lube. Personally, not my favorite position. Perhaps you would be happier in North Korea, or Burma? Then you wouldn't have to worry about all this pesky "freedom" and "personal liberties" we keep blathering on about.

mingol

mingol

Singapore
July 2005

DEC 09, 2007 09:59 AM

michael9000000 said:
Aren't we being a bit over-dramatic here?


Every week there's a new story about privacy and civil liberties being further eroded. And every week someone tells the people who give a damn that they're making mountains out of molehills.

At what point do you suggest people start to be concerned?

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

DEC 09, 2007 09:59 AM

Oz_the_Vamp said:
Uhh... if all these people are spying on all of us, then why the fuck didn't anyone stop the shootings in Omaha and Denver this week? Because, I mean... they had to know these people were going to commit these crimes, yet they did nothing. Oh wait, it's just like 9/11 all over again. I'll go crawl back into my coffin now.



Spy satellites don't work inside a mall, duh..... whatever

mingol

mingol

Singapore
July 2005

DEC 09, 2007 10:05 AM

Oz_the_Vamp said:
Uhh... if all these people are spying on all of us, then why the fuck didn't anyone stop the shootings in Omaha and Denver this week?


Because modern surveillance technology cannot yet read the minds of lone psychopaths.

Once it can, we should expect Tom Cruise to come flying into malls just in the nick of time to prevent such shootings.

elysianfielder

elysianfielder

Los Angeles, CA
March 2003

DEC 09, 2007 10:11 AM

The administration and its corporate allies are going "all in" before a new one is elected.

I think that rhetorically, the best way for Congress, the Democratic candidates, and the rest of us to counter this madness is to invoke Dwight D. Eisenhower's warnings about the military-industrial complex. Becuase he was right on the fuckin' money, and now it's clearer than ever. The fact that he was a Republican and WWII's greatest hero makes it safe to do it. Not that we should have to use Eisenhower as a patriotic shield... but yeah, in today's poisoned public discourse, actually we do. The military contractors and their compliant friends in the government are just that powerful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdrGKwkmxAU

CourierNew

CourierNew

Denver, CO
December 2006

DEC 09, 2007 10:18 AM

We need a new plague.

All_Sewn_Up

All_Sewn_Up

Papua New Guinea
January 2007

DEC 09, 2007 10:31 AM

SnowScoundrel said:
We need a new plague.



A zombie apocalypse would do nicely.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

DEC 09, 2007 10:35 AM

How 'bout a virus that can only be defeated by thinking logically. That should thin the herd substantially.

freshprncebelair

freshprncebelair

Ellicott City, MD
June 2004

DEC 09, 2007 10:53 AM

varukasalt said:
How 'bout a virus that can only be defeated by thinking logically. That should thin the herd substantially.



There's a whole family of them, and they are called STDs

SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

DEC 09, 2007 10:56 AM

varukasalt said:
How 'bout a virus that can only be defeated by thinking logically. That should thin the herd substantially.



I remember Dogberts plan was to become president, then order the entire populace to march into the ocean and drown.
The people who were smart enough not to march into the sea could then divvy up all the dead peoples stuff.

defaultx

defaultx

I'm lost
February 2006
xazapdmytinu

xazapdmytinu

Fort Collins, CO
July 2007

DEC 09, 2007 11:08 AM

Well, look at the bright side. with all that information to sift through it ought to create a lot of new jobs!

tadkil

tadkil

Atlanta, GA
September 2004

DEC 09, 2007 11:11 AM

It will not not stop until we collapse in on ourselves. We have become what our Great Grandparents fought against.

shapeshifter23

shapeshifter23

San Francisco, CA
September 2005

DEC 09, 2007 11:17 AM

We Had A Good Run, Didn't We? So Long, America



I think the collapse of US hegemony which the title of this piece seems to suggest (US as economic superpower that is, rather than as purported exemplar of democracy and civil liberties) is better addressed by this news and what it portends.

Anyone still think we're threatening war with Iran because of their nuclear industry or their alleged support of Al Qaida in Iraq? (If so, then you probably also think the reason we're still occupying Iraq is in order to bring freedom to the Iraqi people).

towelb0y

towelb0y

Emeryville, CA
March 2004

DEC 09, 2007 11:21 AM

look on the bright side. lose your keys? just call your congressman.

Priest_Rag

Priest_Rag

I'm lost
January 2007

DEC 09, 2007 11:22 AM

Maybe I'm crazy, but honestly I trust private corporations with my privacy more than I do the government. At least with private companies, we can sue if they abuse that privacy or they can lose stock. It's far easier to take on private companies than the government.

And while they lose a laptop now and then, private companies don't intentionally leak highly classified material about agents still in the field just to get back at their political rivals.

shapeshifter23

shapeshifter23

San Francisco, CA
September 2005

DEC 09, 2007 11:27 AM

Priest_Sphinxter said:
It's far easier to take on private companies than the government.



I didn't realize there was any difference between the two, at this point.

But you're right, we can still sue private companies. And we have a thoroughly fair and egalitarian judicial system on our side, thankfully. That's why those CEOs never get away with any shenanigans here in the USA, nosirree...

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

DEC 09, 2007 11:32 AM

freshprncebelair said:

varukasalt said:
How 'bout a virus that can only be defeated by thinking logically. That should thin the herd substantially.



There's a whole family of them, and they are called STDs



Right..'cause people that catch VD are stupid!!! That's exactly what I was saying! 'Cause, ya know, catching a disease and curing a disease are the EXACT SAME THING!! Great analogy!!!

Are there no limits to the depths of your genius?!?!?

Least offensive Nutjob 2008!!

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