Perverrted Justice

The girl in the Satine story seems to think entrapment is somehow a good way to "expose wanna-be pedophiles".

Baiting.org (as far as I've seen) makes it a point not to entice (and entrap) anyone, but to wait for the chatters to start with the dirty talk.

Key distinction, IMO.

Did anybody hear that interview with the InterPol guy who used to off pedophiles with out even giving them a trial? It was on Fresh Air.

I had trouble navigating the site.......am I correct in that they list people who are "potential predators"? Are we all on there? And since when did potentiality become a crime - and when did vigiliante justice get this appalling?

****Edited to say that pedophilia is bad & I'd never defend that. But any list of people who are 'potential criminals" is dangerous and weird.

[Edited on Sep 15, 2003 by mrsMF]

Mmmm. That's what I thought too. The "Baiting" site seems to deliberately discourage actual entrapment.

eh, if they publish what they used to classify them as "potential predators" then hey, who cares? Let people make their own decisions.

The long term side effect of this and other similar things is that eventually, if this stuff keeps gaining speed, the internet will be seen as an unsafe place for picking up underage girls for sex.
Or the pedophiles will start their own entrapment sites, and start publishing the IP addresses of people who are trying to entrap them. Wouldn't that be an exciting cat and mouse game?

Like most of what Katherine from Salon.com write, it's merely sensationalism at it's best. Therefore, I take all salon articles with a grain of salt.

Like most of what Katherine from Salon.com write, it's merely sensationalism at it's best. Therefore, I take all salon articles with a grain of salt.

I'm waiting to see two angry lynch mobs meet each other at some denny's in duluth, one set hell bent on kicking some pedophile ass and one set hell bent on kicking the hell out of those who lure pedophiles to a denny's to kick their asses.

do we bait racists next? queers? drunks and junkies? the mentally ill? do we out anyone with a secret whether or not they've broken any laws?

Sounds good to me. You get the Torches, I'll get the Pitchforks. We'll get those undesirables out of the village in now time or burn them alive trying.

no kidding, the newspapers in my area have been absolutely FULL of stories about the local pedo-task force picking guys up.
One dude arranged a sexual encounter with a (fake) womans two little girls, and offered his two sons up to her if she wanted a crack at them.

Sheesh. I have no respect for the people who are doing this.

If you're going to bait a pedophile you should cowboy them once you've caught them and leave a calling card. Like a Colombian necktie. Or any of a thousand heinous Carib gang genital mutiliations.

No use leaving a job half done. A sick sad job, but hey if you're gonna start it...

But hunting for sad lonely guys on the internet....

I'd be more inclined to hate the people who they bait if they actually made a date to meet them and then showed up.

But I guess thats just me.

Though it seems to me if you're going to start cleaning up the planet that there are better places to start.

Y'know... like major centers of the underrage sex-trade like Central America, S.E. Asia, and Gary, Indiana.

But who needs Amnesty International when we can talk shit to sad pathetic sexual predator wannabes on the internet (thus no doubt curing them of their need to have sex with innocent little children).

It makes about as much sense as throwing rocks at people as they leave a clinic and calling it fighting abortion.

They're not vigilantes, they're people with psychological problems, and a very strange hurtful hobby.

Kind of like a watered down version of pedophiles actully.

Don't misunderstand me as defending people who would take advantage of kids... thats a different topic entirely...

But *wow* the internet pedo-patrol certainly doesn't solve anything.

Are you saying that it is?

Spike

Those sites make for interesting reading...
There certainly seemed to be a lot of pedos in Portland Something in the PBR?
I wonder how they're definining the 'potential pedophiles'
Are these guys initiating the conversations, making the 'first move' into dirty chat, or just guys that spoke to someone in a chatroom and didn't care how old the person was as it was someone to talk to?
I think y'all know my feelings on pedophiles and what I'd like to see done to them, but I don't like entrapment, as it often encourages the target to do more than they really would.
It certainly is a tricky situation.
Spike
PS Anyone know what's happened to Toby Studabaker?

I have mixed feelings, but I can't actually say that what they're doing to these peopl is wrong. Those chatlogs are disturbing like pictures of dead babies disturbing, and I' have two step sisters, both of whom are really dumb. I can just about see them falling for something like this.

I have to admit, I don't like entrapment, but I do think that what those sites have done is a good thing. All a parent need to is look there and they have a whole list of people they can immediately block from talking to their children and keep them safer online.

Spike

i don't know about that. All they'd have to do is change their screen name. I think getting embarassed like that might keep them from their pedophilia urges in the future though. Im all for catapulting pedophiles into jagged rocks.