Rape...

A thought occurred to me today. Why is it the worst crime imaginable and utterly horrific for a woman to get raped, but yet it's considered a laughing matter for a guy to be raped in prison by the general population (ie all the "Bubba" and "federal ass-pounding jail" jokes)? I mean they're both equally wrong but one's considered somewhat accepted or even expected to happen and the other is the crime of crimes.

Homophobia, as well as most people not caring about prisoners.

[Edited on Sep 07, 2003 by Winter]

That's a damn good question, Max.

Hahaha! "I better not catch you standing up when you pee, bitch! You better sit down!" Haha..

When you don't want to be fucked in the ass.

But people don't joke about women prisoners getting raped by guards. For whatever reason, people just seem not to think of homosexual rape as being that big of a deal. I never thought about it until now, but I'm guilty of that prejudice myself. I laughed at the scene in "Deliverance" when the guy gets raped by the inbred mountain man in the woods. I've got a lot to think about now.

Ugh... I don't understand how a man raping a man can be any easier to stomach than a man raping a woman, much less funny.

Damn I love this site. The above post is just one of the many reasons. And I agree with Clara when she said that "some people also believe that criminals deserve the extra punishment". I just try to keep in mind that vengeance and justice are not the same thing.

hmm...*reaches for his pocket and pulls out 2 pennies*.
I suppose the idea of 'somebody' going to prison automatically makes people react with the age old 'well they musta done something wrong to get put in there'. So in their mind in becomes 'they get what they deserve'. It's a bit cold-hearted but hey look at it this way, unlike women..men have a prostate to tickle. It gives more meaning to that oh so male philosophy of 'just lay back and enjoy it'. Maybe that's the real reason it seems more acceptable.
Here's a better question: If Kobe Bryant goes down for rape do you think he deserves to have his donuthole punched?

My two cents:

I think a woman raping a man is the only sexually based offense taken less seriously than prison rape.

I'm kinda leaning towards the "criminals aren't really people excuse" as to why prison rape is ok or more tolerable.

Usually in prison and usually at the hands of a large, man and usually without the help of lube...or so the kids on the street say.

I think that it has a good deal to do with the popular conception that "locking someone up" isn't punishment enough for people who commit very serious crimes. It's harsh and vicious, and that's a very good point Max.
Though damn, the irony (in some cases) is humorous to me... *shakes fist at acculturation*

I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that it's usually in a prison context. Really, most prisoners (or at least a large percentage of them) are in jail for drug offenses and other psuedo crimes.

I think it just has to do with the natural sexism that America cultures. If a guy is being an asshole you can punch him, if a woman is being an asshole and you punch her you're a horrible shit. If a woman abuses her husband it's worthy of a snicker, if a man abuses his wife he deserves everything the system can throw at him. If a woman gets raped it's the worst crime ever, if a guy get's raped it's a joke at the dinner table.

It's just a part of our culture, and you see the same exact attitude displayed here on the boards everyday. Women are wonderful, guys are worthless shits.

sugar, spice, and everything nice vs. snips and snails and puppydog tails.

But on top of that, if a woman is aggressive at work, she's a bitch; if a man is aggressive at work, he's a go-getter. If a woman likes to have sex she's a slut; if a man likes to have sex (and is successful) he's a stud. If a woman cares for the environment and tries to get other people to care, she's a worthless hippie, and if a man cares for the environment... no, he's still a worthless hippie.

The women are wonderful, men are shit thing needs modifiers. How about, "women are wonderful, but cannot take care of things by themselves successfully and need a man around; men are shit, but are smarter and better than women and thus worth more job-wise and are necessary." That's how it's thought of in this country.

Face it, if you're a white middle-class male, you're "the man," and are to blame for every bad thing that has happened in this country. Well, almost every bad thing. I think "Home Alone" was backed by foreign money.

lol.

I've never actually seen real world examples of either of these. I've never heard a sexually aggressive woman labeled a slut, only indiscriminate women who will sleep with anyone who wants it (which there really isn't a male counter-example for, because women aren't typically the sexual aggressors). Nor do I generally hear guys who sleep around alot described as "studs". Same with the "aggressive woman in the office". I've seen women in the office overcompensate and be called a bitch, but if a guy were to act the same way they'd be called an asshole just as quickly. Now that's not to say that these situations don't happen (and it's most certainly not to say that there aren't any examples of sexism against women), I've just never seen any real life examples of them. I think that these stereotypes are mostly generated by the entertainment media. The only place I've ever seen them was in tv and movies.

I don't think its funny.
Criminal or not, no one should have to feel rape.
I'm very adament about this.
There is no situation where being raped is ok.