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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 11, 2007 01:41 PM



DEUTSCH: Christian -- so we should be Christian? It would be better if we were all Christian?

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: We should all be Christian?

COULTER: Yes. Would you like to come to church with me, Donny?

DEUTSCH: So I should not be a Jew, I should be a Christian, and this would be a better place?

COULTER: Well, you could be a practicing Jew, but you're not.

DEUTSCH: I actually am. That's not true. I really am. But -- so we would be better if we were - if people -- if there were no Jews, no Buddhists --

COULTER: Whenever I'm harangued by --

DEUTSCH: -- in this country? You can't believe that.

COULTER: -- you know, liberals on diversity --

DEUTSCH: Here you go again.

COULTER: No, it's true. I give all of these speeches at megachurches across America, and the one thing that's really striking about it is how utterly, completely diverse they are, and completely unself-consciously. You walk past a mixed-race couple in New York, and it's like they have a chip on their shoulder. They're just waiting for somebody to say something, as if anybody would. And --

DEUTSCH: I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that at all. Maybe you have the chip looking at them. I see a lot of interracial couples, and I don't see any more or less chips there either way. That's erroneous.

COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire Seinfeld episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying.

DEUTSCH: Oh, because of some Seinfeld episode? OK.

COULTER: But yeah, I think that's reflective of what's going on in the culture, but it is completely striking that at these huge megachurches -- the idea that, you know, the more Christian you are, the less tolerant you would be is preposterous.

DEUTSCH: That isn't what I said, but you said I should not -- we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or --

COULTER: Yeah.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a fast track.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Yeah. You have to obey.

DEUTSCH: You can't possibly believe that.

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: You can't possibly -- you're too educated, you can't -- you're like my friend in --

COULTER: Do you know what Christianity is? We believe your religion, but you have to obey.

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, but I mean --

COULTER: We have the fast-track program.

DEUTSCH: Why don't I put you with the head of Iran? I mean, come on. You can't believe that.

COULTER: The head of Iran is not a Christian.

DEUTSCH: No, but in fact, "Let's wipe Israel" --

COULTER: I don't know if you've been paying attention.

DEUTSCH: "Let's wipe Israel off the earth." I mean, what, no Jews?

COULTER: No, we think -- we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say.

DEUTSCH: Wow, you didn't really say that, did you?

COULTER: Yes. That is what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. You have to obey laws. We know we're all sinners --

DEUTSCH: In my old days, I would have argued -- when you say something absurd like that, there's no --

COULTER: What's absurd?

DEUTSCH: Jews are going to be perfected. I'm going to go off and try to perfect myself --

COULTER: Well, that's what the New Testament says.

DEUTSCH: Ann Coulter, author of If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans, and if Ann Coulter had any brains, she would not say Jews need to be perfected. I'm offended by that personally. And we'll have more Big Idea when we come back.

[...]

DEUTSCH: Welcome back to The Big Idea. During the break, Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment. So I'm going to give her a chance. So you don't think that was offensive?

COULTER: No. I'm sorry. It is not intended to be. I don't think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to, you know, live up to all the laws. What Christians believe -- this is just a statement of what the New Testament is -- is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don't believe our testament.

DEUTSCH: You said -- your exact words were, "Jews need to be perfected." Those are the words out of your mouth.

COULTER: No, I'm saying that's what a Christian is.

DEUTSCH: But that's what you said -- don't you see how hateful, how anti-Semitic --

COULTER: No!

DEUTSCH: How do you not see? You're an educated woman. How do you not see that?

COULTER: That isn't hateful at all.

DEUTSCH: But that's even a scarier thought.



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wildswan

wildswan

I'm lost
June 2006

OCT 11, 2007 01:48 PM

Why can't Desiccated Monkey Corpse just disappear? I'm tired of it's schtick.

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

OCT 11, 2007 01:50 PM

...

Speechless. Absolutely speechless. The circular logic is just astounding.

The REALLY frightening thing about this is that she isn't an isolated case.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

OCT 11, 2007 01:51 PM

She's a gem alright. surreal

I was once a Perfected Jew, but I gave it up, like sausage.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 11, 2007 01:52 PM

fountainofdreams said:
...

Speechless. Absolutely speechless. The circular logic is just astounding.

The REALLY frightening thing about this is that she isn't an isolated case.



You're right. The casual way she presents the information, along with the use of "we" makes one think this is something that is discussed often in her circles.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

OCT 11, 2007 01:57 PM

FearTheReaper said:

fountainofdreams said:
...

Speechless. Absolutely speechless. The circular logic is just astounding.

The REALLY frightening thing about this is that she isn't an isolated case.


You're right. The casual way she presents the information, along with the use of "we" makes one think this is something that is discussed often in her circles.


From the readers' reactions:

I don't understand why trying to convert someone to a religion is looked on as hateful. Is it not fair to say then that Jews are anti-christian by stating that Jesus was a liar or a falsity?

I think having an opinion that someones faith is misguided should not be construed as hate speech. This is a complete over reaction.

Derek Bartron

unravled

unravled

Portland, OR
August 2003

OCT 11, 2007 01:59 PM

Dick_skin_suit said:
She's a gem alright. surreal

I was once a Perfected Jew, but I gave it up, like sausage.



Pork sausage?

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

OCT 11, 2007 02:03 PM

i dont really think of christianity as a 'fast track' if anything, unitarians are a fast track.

but she knows what shes doing. shes drumming up sales within her market group. her market group probably isnt very jewish, for whatever reasons. this is what ann wants, and then she shrugs it off with an 'aint i scandelous' girlish giggle.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 11, 2007 02:12 PM

Zarth said:
From the readers' reactions:

I don't understand why trying to convert someone to a religion is looked on as hateful. Is it not fair to say then that Jews are anti-christian by stating that Jesus was a liar or a falsity?

I think having an opinion that someones faith is misguided should not be construed as hate speech. This is a complete over reaction.

Derek Bartron



Yay?

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

OCT 11, 2007 02:13 PM

required posting:

Adroitbeing

Adroitbeing

I'm lost
September 2003

OCT 11, 2007 02:21 PM

I'm wondering if this was simply idle banter to disguise Anne's true objective?
Basic Annstinct

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

OCT 11, 2007 02:56 PM

Ugh. Ann Coulter is the the G.G. Allin of political punditry.

She has precious little actual talent, so she's made a career out of being "shocking" in a really crude and pointless way.

Part of me wants to simply ignore her, since her paycheck depends on these controversies she's so adept at manufacturing every time she has a new book to peddle, but it's hard to sit on your hands when someone says incredibly ignorant and offensive things.

I was glad to see that she lost some website sponsors after the whole "John Edwards is a faggot" debacle, so I'm hoping the inevitable backlash against Coulter this time hits her in the pocketbook as well.

Priapos

priapos

San Angelo, TX
October 2005

OCT 11, 2007 04:35 PM

She keeps getting skinnier; Maybe she will waste away to nothing...

It's a fair bet she's impervious to reason, and fighting her will only make her stronger. frown

SignalNoise

SignalNoise

USA
February 2004

OCT 11, 2007 05:04 PM

Seriously - what is this "obeying rules" things she keeps talking about? Judaism doesn't have rules? I mean - I was pretty sure it had a whole slew of tenets (and there are degrees of observation of said tenets of course) I don't get it - what the fuck is she talking about?

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

OCT 11, 2007 05:14 PM

i read it again. sooo creepy.
especially the emphasis she puts on OBEY.
i had this idea in my head that follwing jesus was about, you know, love.

no. must obey! what a perfect wingnut distillation of religion.
i just cant stop picturing her with dr strangelove's sneer.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

OCT 11, 2007 05:21 PM

Priapos said:
She keeps getting skinnier; Maybe she will waste away to nothing...

It's a fair bet she's impervious to reason, and fighting her will only make her stronger. frown



It's only because she has been away from her crypt for so long.

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TheInsomniac

TheInsomniac

Washington, DC
October 2003

OCT 11, 2007 05:37 PM

Does she really cite old "Seinfeld" episodes to back up her racial politics? Good lord.

Oh, and that Rollins video was fucking great.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

OCT 11, 2007 05:49 PM

attn_ho said:
i just cant stop picturing her with dr strangelove's sneer.




_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

OCT 11, 2007 10:41 PM

Why does everybody keep saying her and she? I'm confused. Isn't Ann Coulter a man?

DannyDMc

DannyDMc

Fargo, ND
July 2003

OCT 11, 2007 11:53 PM


I wish I could say I'm shocked and horrified......

I can't though.

Nothing these monsters say shocks me anymore frown

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

OCT 12, 2007 12:23 AM

Is anyone else already planning a retort for anyone who tries to actually defend her on this one?

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

OCT 12, 2007 12:32 AM

My retort for anyone who defends her is this...

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

OCT 12, 2007 12:53 AM

Ann Coulter: perfect Christian or perfectly insane? Why in the world is this loony political hack given any airtime at all? Is it because she's controversial or because completely lost it? Anyone narcissistic enough to believe that the entire world is expendable if it doesn't revolve around their narrow perception of reality is severely lacking in heart and intelligence. Honestly, I can't believe she actually believes anything she says or writes about. She's just another political shock jock, or in her case a prevaricating fluff muffin.

I just have to post this one... She deserves it. Ann Coulter: IFACITAH Try not to split your sides from laughing.

Wendy

Wendy

SUICIDEGIRL

Israel

OCT 12, 2007 01:41 AM

Call her an "islamofascist" when her books start calling for suicide bombings at synagogues and Jewish schools, when Americans are kidnapped in the name of Jesus and when she has her 15 children parading around with guns and bandanas with bible quotes on them wrapped around their heads.

Until then, she's just another Christian who believes that her religion is right. Who cares?

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

OCT 12, 2007 02:41 AM

Wendy said:
Until then, she's just another Christian who believes that her religion is right.



eh, it's a little more than that.

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