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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 12, 2007 04:59 PM



The anti-immigrant movement has descended into madness. I know this because I have a relative who sends me the occasional anti-immigrant email. He knows I have a daily article here on SG and wants to keep me informed of the scary immigrant activities taking place in America. Previously he sent me an article on the NAFTA Superhighway. Upon further research I discovered that the Superhighway is entirely fictional.

The emails are flying back and forth between the anti-immigrant folks and they are scaring the shit out of each other. The latest one that came into my inbox has been forward to hundreds of people in the anti-immigrant revolution. They apparently believe it is real. I, on the other hand, thought it was completely insane and much like the NAFTA Superhighway, entirely fictional. The email is a real work of art.


Here is a *REAL INTERVIEW *with an illegal Mexican at a protest march in Texas.

Trying to reason with an Illegal Mexican.

This is good! Below is a good example of a discussion with a master of circular logic. Don't be logical, don't respect the truth or your adversary, just say what you think makes a new case when the previous case gets too difficult to defend. Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station on the streets of downtown Houston, May 1, 2006:

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Jim: Juan, I see that you and thousands of other protesters are marching in the streets to demonstrate for your cause. Exactly what is your cause and what do you expect to accomplish by this protest?

Juan: We want our rights. We will show you how powerful we are. We will bring Houston to its knees!

Jim: What rights?

Juan: Our right to live here legally. Our right to get all the benefits you get.

Jim: When did you come to the United States?

Juan: Six years ago. I crossed over the border at night with seven other friends.


At this point, I believe this could be a real interview. Juan came over, looking for work with some friends and now he is feeling the power one feels when involved in a large protest. Pretty standard stuff. Then the wheels come off.


Jim: Why did you come?

Juan: For work. I can earn as much in a month as I could in a year in
Mexico. Besides, I get free health care, our Mexican children can go to school free, if I lose my job I will get Welfare, and someday I will have the Social Security. Nothing like that in Mexico!


Wow. Juan suddenly started talking in right wing rhetoric bursts. He seems to have quite a bit of knowledge about how to scam the American system – and is even excited about getting Social Security. Sadly, he has no access to Social Security because he has no Social Security number. But why shouldn’t he be excited? He is actually right in the middle of transforming from a human being into a cartoon villain.

And note that Juan called his own children "Mexican children." That is what people do. In America, when we talk about our children, we say, "Have you met my American child, Billy?"


Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our immigration laws when you came?

Juan: No! Why should I feel bad? I have a right to be here. I have a right to amnesty I paid lots of money for my Social Security and Green Cards.

Jim: How did you acquire those documents?

Juan: From a guy in Dallas. He charged me a lot of money too.


Ha ha. Cartoon Juan, now you are speaking in classic joke form. That is weird, but VERY common among Mexicans.


Jim: Did you know that those documents were forged?

Juan: It is of no matter. I have a right to be here and work.

Jim: What is the "right" you speak of?

Juan: The right of all Aliens. It is found in your Constitution. Read it!

Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember it saying anything about rights for Aliens.

Juan: It is in that part where it says that all men have Alien rights, like the right to pursue happiness. I wasn't happy in Mexico, so I came here.

Jim: I think you are referring to the declaration of Independence and that document speaks to unalienable right…Not Alien rights.


Holy shit. Seriously? This is the best you have, you right wing lunatics? That joke was so bad it made me what to punch myself in the face for reading it.


Jim: Since you are demanding to become an American citizen, why then are you carrying a Mexican Flag?

Juan: Because I am Mexican.


Ah, yes. This is something that really enraged the anti-immigrant crowd. When immigrant rallies were held across the country, many in the crowd carried Mexican flags. It was outrageous! I haven’t seen anything like it since the St. Patrick’s Day parade in New York, with all those fucking Irish flags! Hey Paddy, it’s America, not Ireland!


Jim: But you said you want to be given amnesty…to become a US citizen.

Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is our country, a part of Mexico that you Gringos stole from us. We want it returned to its rightful owner.

Jim: Juan, you are standing in Texas. After wining the war with Mexico, Texas became a Republic, and later Texans voted to join the USA. It was not stolen from Mexico.

Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was stolen. So was California, New Mexico and Arizona. It is just like all the other stuff you Gringos steal, like oil and babies. You are a country of thieves.

Jim: Babies? You think we steal babies?

Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam and China. I see them all over the place. You let all these foreigners in, but try to keep us Mexicans out. How is this fair?


Sigh. At this point you just have to become sad for anyone who actually thinks this dialogue is real. Yes, the Mexicans want their land back. They don’t want to just make a living wage and support their families. They are not concerned with making enough money to survive the month, but rather reclaiming land that was lost over a century ago. I can’t tell you how many conversations I have had with Mexicans about the reclamation of Southern California. Our situation is very similar to the Israeli – Palestinian conflict and the Balkan states of the former Yugoslavia.


Jim: So, you really don't want to become an American citizen then.

Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a right to live, work, and speak their native language wherever and whenever they please. That's another thing we demand. All signs and official documents should be in Spanish. Teachers must teach in Spanish. Soon, more people here in Houston will speak Spanish than English. It is our right!

Jim: If I were to cross over the border into Mexico without proper documentation, what rights would I have there?

Juan: None. You would probably go to jail, but that's different.

Jim: How is it different? You said everyone has the right to live wherever they please

Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land grabbing thieves. Now you want Mexico too? Mexico has its rights. You Gringos have no rights in Mexico. Why would you want to go there anyway? There is no free medical service, schools, or welfare there for foreigners such as you. You cannot even own land in my country. Stay in the country of your birth.


Cartoon Juan just needed to hit the free schools and welfare points again before he wrapped it up, just in case the reader had forgotten.


Jim: I can see that there is no way that we can agree on this issue. Thank you for your comments.

Juan: Viva Mexico!


Jim is obviously an unbiased reporter who takes his job seriously and argues with people in the street, rather than simply presenting their viewpoint. And Juan, God bless him, is only after the free things here in America. He certainly doesn't want to work. You never see a Mexican immigrant looking for work. And in addition, Juan is looking forward to some sort of revolution. What he does not care about is making enough money to survive. He is a cartoon that the anti-immigrant crowd believes is real.

Juan is what I like to call the mythical Mexican. They have created him out of fictional stories, far-away observations, rumors and paste. Fake Juan is quite scary because he wants to destroy our country. The Mexican villain taps into every fear artery that Americans care about. They include healthcare, schools, welfare, crime, sovereignty and even baby kidnapping. He is the ultimate example of the La Raza demon. At the end of the email, they request that we take action:


Pass this along to every American citizen in your address books and to every representative in the state and federal government. If you choose to remain uninvolved, do not be amazed when you no longer have a nation to call your own nor anything you have worked for left since it will be "redistributed" to the activists while you are so peacefully staying out of the "fray". Check history, it is full of nations/empires that disappeared when its citizens no longer held their core beliefs and values. One person CAN make a difference. One plus one plus one plus one plus one plus one…

The battle for our secure borders and immigration laws that actually mean something, however, hasn't even begun.

If this ticks YOU off...PASS IT ON!


And they are passing it on. This email is being sent around the country to enraged citizens. Some of these people actually believe that La Raza is a revolutionary group that is planning a civil war in 2008, right here in Southern California.


The National Council of La Raza describes itself as the largest Latino civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States, but it caters to the radical Chicano movement that says California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas belong to Aztlan.

The takeover plan is referred to as the “reconquista” of the Western U.S. and it features ethnic cleansing of Americans, Europeans, Africans and Asians once the area is taken back and converted to Aztlan.


Ethnic cleansing. Yes, white Americans are speaking of ethic cleansing without a hint of irony. The information highway is here, feel the pride.

wereduck

wereduck

I'm lost
July 2007

SEP 13, 2007 09:12 AM

At this point, I think the appropriate response is to look up to the sky, reach upwards melodramatically, and shout: "DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!"

gdarklighter

gdarklighter

San Diego, CA
August 2005

SEP 13, 2007 09:17 AM

Can someone please attach a virus that tells the reader they're stupid to this email? Pretty please?

captevil

captevil

New Westminster, BC
April 2005

SEP 13, 2007 09:23 AM

The thing about encouraging the free exchange of ideas, like the internet does, is that really, really stupid ideas get exchanged too. whatever

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

SEP 13, 2007 09:43 AM

the "unalienable rights" bit made me spit my drink out.

i have to say though, that juan the mythical mexican probably has a better working knowledge of the declaration of independence than the average american.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

SEP 13, 2007 09:48 AM

RileyStClair said:
the "unalienable rights" bit made me spit my drink out.

i have to say though, that juan the mythical mexican probably has a better working knowledge of the declaration of independence than the average american.


I'll bet he can locate the United States on a world map, too.

Though I'd also wager he doesn't know the difference between Baltic and Balkan any better than your average Newswire Editor.

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

SEP 13, 2007 09:50 AM

like, such as.

touché re: balkan vs. baltic btw.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

SEP 13, 2007 09:53 AM

Zarth said:
Though I'd also wager he doesn't know the difference between Baltic and Balkan any better than your average Newswire Editor.



Which one is the avenue in Monopoly again?

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

SEP 13, 2007 09:53 AM

RileyStClair said:
like, such as.

touché re: balkan vs. baltic btw.


Rajshi ne.

Uncognitive said:

Zarth said:
Though I'd also wager he doesn't know the difference between Baltic and Balkan any better than your average Newswire Editor.


Which one is the avenue in Monopoly again?


The first one.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

SEP 13, 2007 09:54 AM

See and here I thought this was gonna be a story about some sort of Mexican power rangers or the Chupicabra or something.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 13, 2007 09:57 AM

Zarth said:

RileyStClair said:
the "unalienable rights" bit made me spit my drink out.

i have to say though, that juan the mythical mexican probably has a better working knowledge of the declaration of independence than the average american.


I'll bet he can locate the United States on a world map, too.

Though I'd also wager he doesn't know the difference between Baltic and Balkan any better than your average Newswire Editor.



oops. Thats what happens when i only have 30 minutes to write an article. rush = mistake. i apologize to your ancestors.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

SEP 13, 2007 09:58 AM

FearTheReaper said:

Zarth said:

RileyStClair said:
the "unalienable rights" bit made me spit my drink out.

i have to say though, that juan the mythical mexican probably has a better working knowledge of the declaration of independence than the average american.


I'll bet he can locate the United States on a world map, too.

Though I'd also wager he doesn't know the difference between Baltic and Balkan any better than your average Newswire Editor.


oops. Thats what happens wen i only have 30 minutes to write an article. rush = mistake. i apologize to your ancestors.


Dober. That means I will not have to ethnically cleanse you.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 13, 2007 10:00 AM

Zarth said:

FearTheReaper said:

Zarth said:

RileyStClair said:
the "unalienable rights" bit made me spit my drink out.

i have to say though, that juan the mythical mexican probably has a better working knowledge of the declaration of independence than the average american.


I'll bet he can locate the United States on a world map, too.

Though I'd also wager he doesn't know the difference between Baltic and Balkan any better than your average Newswire Editor.


oops. Thats what happens wen i only have 30 minutes to write an article. rush = mistake. i apologize to your ancestors.


Dober. That means I will not have to ethnically cleanse you.



i appreciate that

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

SEP 13, 2007 10:03 AM

Colinism said:
See and here I thought this was gonna be a story about some sort of Mexican power rangers or the Chupicabra or something.



dude, there is nothing mythical about the chupacabra!

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

SEP 13, 2007 10:05 AM

To get back on topic for a second, though, I really have to wonder what was going through the mind of the "interviewer" when he was fabricating this conversation. I mean, did he just think to himself, "Well, that's what an illegal would say, and besides, I'm doing a public service!"

I mean, what the fuck?

RileyStClair said:

Colinism said:
See and here I thought this was gonna be a story about some sort of Mexican power rangers or the Chupicabra or something.


dude, there is nothing mythical about the chupacabra!


It's true, I know for a fact that you can get them at Taco Bell for a buck ninety-nine.

EDIT - Urban legend link for the article. Jim Moore is apparently a real person, and he actually worked for a Houston television station, but not for several years. And the station, of course, says that no such interview was ever aired.

DrStinkypants

DrStinkypants

Saint Paul, MN
October 2002

SEP 13, 2007 10:13 AM

RileyStClair said:

Colinism said:
See and here I thought this was gonna be a story about some sort of Mexican power rangers or the Chupicabra or something.



dude, there is nothing mythical about the chupacabra!



Stop chupacarbras from sucking American goats! There are plenty of out of work Americans who would love to suck our American goats

Zebulingod

Zebulingod

Beaverton, OR
August 2007

SEP 13, 2007 10:25 AM

Oh my...

legionnaire

legionnaire

Belgium
November 2003

SEP 13, 2007 10:26 AM

I think the interview would have been more believable if it had included a vivid description of how Juan twirled his giant mustache and cackled maniacally as he described how hourly Mexican laborers planned on overthrowing the US.

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

SEP 13, 2007 10:32 AM

legionnaire said:
I think the interview would have been more believable if it had included a vivid description of how Juan twirled his giant mustache and cackled maniacally as he described how hourly Mexican laborers planned on overthrowing the US.



yes! and if he were wearing a giant sombrero and when the interview got too hot to handle, if he had sped away shouting "¡Ándale! ¡Ándale! ¡Arriba! ¡Arriba!"

Moonrabbit

Moonrabbit

Vancouver, BC
February 2005

SEP 13, 2007 10:41 AM

Colinism said:
See and here I thought this was gonna be a story about some sort of Mexican power rangers or the Chupicabra or something.



Like that crazy Mexican martial arts movie in the Dell commercial? I bet that guy was a power ranger.

Damnit! I want to see that movie! If only it were real!

Towelly

Towelly

Philadelphia, PA
January 2007

SEP 13, 2007 10:47 AM

With documentary evidence like this, who can blame him for writing what they would say if they were honest. Note that the music is the Mexican national anthem.



Since that's the first time I've tried to link something like that, in case it doesn't work, here's the standard link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G2QF1II6KE&NR=1

The kicker is to note whose gold is being stolen. Yes, they've been swindling the Confederahcah for years now, and it's time to stop.

KingHELL

kinghell

Portland, OR
July 2003

SEP 13, 2007 10:50 AM

You think mythical Mexicans are scary? I live with an actual one. Horrifying.

On the bright side, my lawn has never looked better.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

SEP 13, 2007 11:04 AM

That's the funny shit I've read in a long time. Thanks, I needed that.


Re: Balkans

What the fuck are you guys talking about? You've got me completely confused. The former Yugoslavia is in the Balkans not near the Baltic. So, how was he wrong? Am I missing something?

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

SEP 13, 2007 11:06 AM

emotedcreations said:
Re: Balkans

What the fuck are you guys talking about? You've got me completely confused. The former Yugoslavia is in the Balkans not near the Baltic. So, how was he wrong? Am I missing something?



They call us folks Newswire editors for a reason, you know. wink

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

SEP 13, 2007 11:12 AM

Uncognitive said:
They call us folks Newswire editors for a reason, you know. wink

Ah...I wasn't aware you could go back and change your stories. You could really make someone look like an idiot that way! wink

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