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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 21, 2007 01:34 AM



A suburban church outside of Chicago is getting quite lovey-dovey with a sex criminal. First Baptist Church of Romeoville allowed a convicted sex offender to preach for three years. He still occasionally fills in as a preacher, teacher and music minister. And why shouldnÂ’t he? Jeff Hannah only spent five years in prison for having sex with girls who were between 15 and 17-years-old. What could possibly go wrong?

In 1996 Hannah was sent to prison because while he was a youth minister at Crossroads Church in Libertyville, he was putting his God parts inside of young girls. After being paroled in 2001, Hannah joined the Church of Romeoville because his new wife was a member. By coincidence, the church was looking for a new pastor. They asked Hannah to fill in until they filled the position, even though they knew about his past.


The Rev. Steve Farish, pastor of Crossroads Church, which has relocated to Grayslake, said he considered Hannah so dangerous that he warned the Romeoville church and a regional Southern Baptist official.

"We thought he could still potentially be a danger to women and children," Farish said. "He was never repentant and never told the truth."

Randie Bruno, the prosecutor in Hannah's case said, "He has the charisma to fool everybody."


But the Lord forgives! And so do the idiots at the First Baptist Church of Romeoville.


"In our church, we believe in forgiveness," said Del Kirkpatrick, one of the deacons who hired Hannah.


Good for you. Hopefully you can explain that to the 15-year-old he bangs against the piano one night.

Unfortunately, there was a more horrible monster walking the aisle at the church. The new pastor, Reverend Charles Hamby, was hired in February 2006. He had been married and was no longer married. You read that right, he was fucking divorced. I mean, why not just spit in GodÂ’s eye? Then to top it off, Hamby remarried while he was pastor. How insulting is that? Several church members were so upset that they left the church. One of them was Del Kirkpatrick, the same deacon who hired Hannah because he "believes in forgiveness."


"A pastor should be the husband of one wife," Kirkpatrick said.


You are like a cunt that has been eaten by an asshole and sewn up inside of a ball sack. You are all genitals wrapped into one. There is no name for what you are, except, maybeÂ…fuckfanusticle.

Hamby, of course, let Hannah continue as a preacher and gave him “greater leadership roles.” And why not? Hannah has clearly worked through his demons and taken responsibility for his actions.


Hannah, 42, was unapologetic about his crimes, saying his first marriage had been troubled and he'd had "urges."

"I honestly believe that had I been a college pastor, I'd slept with college girls," he said. "But I was a youth pastor. It was less about age and more about who I spent all my time with."


Right. I guess we should be thankful you were not a preschool teacher, or a pig farmer.

Hannah and Hamby both resigned last week when the Chicago Sun-Times began asking questions. Sunday worship was canceled. Hopefully that lasts forever.

ash67

ash67

USA
October 2005

AUG 22, 2007 09:14 AM

That is really fucked up. I mean, I can see the chruch forgiving a guy for being a junkie in the past or maybe accidently killing someone in a car wreck. But come the fuck on! Being a pedophile apparently doesn't matter to a lot of people. Under the rug swept.

Also, gotta love getting up in people's asses about getting divorced and then remarried. Because its not like half the congragation hasn't/won't do that.

Its shit like that faking to be God is why I quit going to a church. Bastards.

Vermin

Vermin

United Kingdom
July 2007

AUG 22, 2007 09:15 AM

So it's okay to rape underage girls but if he fancied boys he'd be lynched.

scorp17yh

scorp17yh

Brookings, OR
November 2004

AUG 22, 2007 09:17 AM

And why do we continue to grant Tax Exempt status to these pedophile cults.

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

AUG 22, 2007 09:29 AM

ash67 said:
That is really fucked up. I mean, I can see the chruch forgiving a guy for being a junkie in the past or maybe accidently killing someone in a car wreck. But come the fuck on! Being a pedophile apparently doesn't matter to a lot of people. Under the rug swept.


"15 and 17-years-old"

dingoes8

dingoes8

Milwaukee, WI
March 2004

AUG 22, 2007 09:42 AM

Well, it is the Church of Romeoville. Sounds like a romantic place.

Horrorflick

Horrorflick

Detroit, MI
February 2003

AUG 22, 2007 10:03 AM

"15 and 17"? Isn't that legally old enough to be married in most areas of the country?

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 22, 2007 10:08 AM

Horrorflick said:
"15 and 17"? Isn't that legally old enough to be married in most areas of the country?



It is. What does that have to do with a married pastor fucking teenagers?

burritosandsnow

burritosandsnow

Salt Lake City, UT
July 2007

AUG 22, 2007 10:21 AM

Horrorflick said:
"15 and 17"? Isn't that legally old enough to be married in most areas of the country?



It probably is legal age to be married but only with parental consent. Never the less it still falls under the legal age of a minor. The problem here is just another manisfestation of the biggest issue with the right wing christian movement and that is thier belief and practice of " what you do is my business but what i do isnt your business "

DannyDMc

DannyDMc

Fargo, ND
July 2003

AUG 22, 2007 10:22 AM

Vermin said:
So it's okay to rape underage girls but if he fancied boys he'd be lynched.



Well, technically, the man's not a pedeophile. That would involve him going after young children; not girls who are 15-17. It doesn't exactly make him crimes any less offensive (he was using his position of authority to take advantage of those younger and weaker than himself), but it also doesn't make him a pedophile.

Keri

Keri

SUICIDEGIRL

Virginia, USA

AUG 22, 2007 10:33 AM

DannyDMc said:

Vermin said:
So it's okay to rape underage girls but if he fancied boys he'd be lynched.



Well, technically, the man's not a pedeophile. That would involve him going after young children; not girls who are 15-17. It doesn't exactly make him crimes any less offensive (he was using his position of authority to take advantage of those younger and weaker than himself), but it also doesn't make him a pedophile.



okay so he's not a "pedophile" but he was taking advantage of young girls at CHURCH. he's a PASTOR. these people are fucking nuts.

DhD_No_Pants

DhD_No_Pants

Katy, TX
May 2006

AUG 22, 2007 10:45 AM

He was convicted of:


CRIMINAL SEXUAL ASSAULT/VICTIM 13-17 (3 Counts)




Is that how statutory rape is termed, if the victim is willing, but underage?



Illinois Sex Offender Registry

legionnaire

legionnaire

Belgium
November 2003

AUG 22, 2007 10:51 AM

DannyDMc said:

Vermin said:
So it's okay to rape underage girls but if he fancied boys he'd be lynched.



Well, technically, the man's not a pedeophile. That would involve him going after young children; not girls who are 15-17. It doesn't exactly make him crimes any less offensive (he was using his position of authority to take advantage of those younger and weaker than himself), but it also doesn't make him a pedophile.

I believe the technical, legal term for what he is is "scumbag."

Holdenwrites

Holdenwrites

Miami, FL
December 2004

AUG 22, 2007 10:52 AM

Horrorflick said:
"15 and 17"? Isn't that legally old enough to be married in most areas of the country?



Age of consent in Florida is 16 if the older person is 22 or younger. Might be 23.
Either way, what he's done is still reprehensible. I've always hated religion, not matter which one you look at, they're all corrupt forms of faith. If you're going to believe in a higher power, go for it, but avoid organized religion.

DhD_No_Pants

DhD_No_Pants

Katy, TX
May 2006

AUG 22, 2007 11:00 AM

Ok, something is fishy here, I do not think that this is a clear cut case of statutory rape. His victim (as listed with the Illinois sex offender registry) was 17 years old. However, the law in Illinois states that 17 is the age of consent. (I've bolded the really pertinent parts)



ARTICLE 11. SEX OFFENSES

(720 ILCS 5/11-6) (from Ch. 38, par. 11-6)

Sec. 11-6. Indecent solicitation of a child.

(a) A person of the age of 17 years and upwards commits the offense of indecent solicitation of a child if the person, with the intent that

the offense of aggravated criminal sexual assault, criminal sexual assault, predatory criminal sexual assault of a child, or aggravated criminal sexual abuse

be committed, knowingly solicits a child or one whom he or she believes to be a child to perform an act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct as defined in Section 12-12 of this Code.

(b) Definitions. As used in this Section:

"Solicit" means to command, authorize, urge, incite, request, or advise another to perform an act by any means including, but not limited to, in person, over the phone, in writing, by computer, or by

advertisement of any kind.



"Child" means a person under 17 years of age.



From the way I am interpreting this, he did not have 'consensual' sex with a girl that was underage, he sexually assaulted a person that was past the age of consent.

Or am I reading it all wrong?

Gerry_D

Gerry_D

Los Angeles, CA
May 2003

AUG 22, 2007 11:31 AM

yay!

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 22, 2007 11:37 AM

DhD_PillowPants said:
Ok, something is fishy here, I do not think that this is a clear cut case of statutory rape. His victim (as listed with the Illinois sex offender registry) was 17 years old. However, the law in Illinois states that 17 is the age of consent. (I've bolded the really pertinent parts)



ARTICLE 11. SEX OFFENSES

(720 ILCS 5/11-6) (from Ch. 38, par. 11-6)

Sec. 11-6. Indecent solicitation of a child.

(a) A person of the age of 17 years and upwards commits the offense of indecent solicitation of a child if the person, with the intent that

the offense of aggravated criminal sexual assault, criminal sexual assault, predatory criminal sexual assault of a child, or aggravated criminal sexual abuse

be committed, knowingly solicits a child or one whom he or she believes to be a child to perform an act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct as defined in Section 12-12 of this Code.

(b) Definitions. As used in this Section:

"Solicit" means to command, authorize, urge, incite, request, or advise another to perform an act by any means including, but not limited to, in person, over the phone, in writing, by computer, or by

advertisement of any kind.



"Child" means a person under 17 years of age.



From the way I am interpreting this, he did not have 'consensual' sex with a girl that was underage, he sexually assaulted a person that was past the age of consent.

Or am I reading it all wrong?



I believe you are right. I interpreted the information wrong.

DhD_No_Pants

DhD_No_Pants

Katy, TX
May 2006

AUG 22, 2007 11:42 AM

FearTheReaper said:

I believe you are right. It interpreted the information wrong.



I don't think you did. The facts that are in the article appear a bit different than what the sex registry says. There is only mention of one female in the registry, but 4 are mentioned in the article. And the article doesn't use terms like sexual assault, just 'sexual relations'

DhD_No_Pants

DhD_No_Pants

Katy, TX
May 2006

AUG 22, 2007 11:49 AM

Oh, and just for hoots: Jeff Hannah invited another sex offender to lead the church in some music while he was leading the congregation.


Two sex offenders spoke at Illinois church

ROMEOVILLE, Ill., Aug. 21 (UPI) -- A Chicago-area sex offender who had been preaching at a Southern Baptist church invited a fellow convicted child molester to lead the congregation.

Jeff Hannah, a multiple sex offender who had been preaching at First Baptist Church in Romeoville , Ill.,since he was paroled in 2001, asked convicted molester Bryan Buckley to lead the church in special music at a Sept. 9 celebration service, the Chicago Sun-Times reported Tuesday.

Buckley, who was imprisoned in 1997 on four counts of criminally assaulting a 14-year-old girl over the course of several months, apparently became acquainted with Hannah, who was convicted in 1996 of having sexual relations with four teens while serving as a youth minister, while they were both in prison.

Hannah, along with the church's Rev. Charles Hamby, resigned last week from the congregation amid the Sun-Times' investigation.

However, Hamby said he doesn't see anything morally wrong with allowing the two men to lead the congregation.

"We're a church that believes in grace and redemption," he told the Sun-Times.


UPI

Gylrek

Gylrek

Chula Vista, CA
August 2007

AUG 22, 2007 12:16 PM

wow another liberal Athiest reporter celebrating the few bad people in religion . Just because you hate religion and the belief in a god ,don't try to give validity to your beliefs or non-beliefs based on the few sick individuals who take advantage of thier positions.

DhD_No_Pants

DhD_No_Pants

Katy, TX
May 2006

AUG 22, 2007 12:22 PM

Gylrek said:
wow another liberal Athiest reporter celebrating the few bad people in religion . Just because you hate religion and the belief in a god ,don't try to give validity to your beliefs or non-beliefs based on the few sick individuals who take advantage of thier positions.



I was wondering how long it would take for this to happen.

The church that he belonged to knew he was a sex offender and still reinstated him into a position of power where he could repeat his crimes. That is a bit more than one guy diddling youth group kids. It is an issue with the church itself. It would be like putting a molester back into a classroom.

I hate having to break this shit down to you because you have no reading comprehension skills/ability to clarify issues like this on your own.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 22, 2007 12:29 PM

Gylrek said:
wow another liberal Athiest reporter celebrating the few bad people in religion . Just because you hate religion and the belief in a god ,don't try to give validity to your beliefs or non-beliefs based on the few sick individuals who take advantage of thier positions.



Ill-judgedIll"-judged`, a.
Not well judged; unwise; not well considered or thought out;
as, an ill-judged attempt

Gylrek

Gylrek

Chula Vista, CA
August 2007

AUG 22, 2007 12:37 PM

I was speaking about how over joyed the reporter sounded at what this church did. 2nd each "baptist church" acts on its own it not like the "roman Cathlic church" they are not all affiliated with each other.

I don't believe in organized religion .I do believe that if you look at the whole picture though ,Churches as a whole have a Positive effect on society.I think what this church did was sad and unexcuseable but the Joy this reporter had in show how "hopeful" he would be if sunday service would "never start up again". shows his distaste not in the wrong doing of this church but the belief in and worshipping of a god.

DhD_No_Pants

DhD_No_Pants

Katy, TX
May 2006

AUG 22, 2007 12:45 PM

Gylrek said:
I was speaking about how over joyed the reporter sounded at what this church did. 2nd each "baptist church" acts on its own it not like the "roman Cathlic church" they are not all affiliated with each other.

I don't believe in organized religion .I do believe that if you look at the whole picture though ,Churches as a whole have a Positive effect on society.I think what this church did was sad and unexcuseable but the Joy this reporter had in show how "hopeful" he would be if sunday service would "never start up again". shows his distaste not in the wrong doing of this church but the belief in and worshipping of a god.



The 'reporter' of which you speak has a long standing history of writing shit in a sarcastic manner, no matter what the topic is. Oh, and no matter how positive you think churches as a whole are, you are on a website where a lot of the lifestyles of it's members are told by those same churches are evil, bad, wrong, and going to send them straight to fiery hell. While they doublespeak of forgiveness. You are digging up a bunch of worms that I don't think you can handle in here.

Gylrek

Gylrek

Chula Vista, CA
August 2007

AUG 22, 2007 12:53 PM

And that is why I don't believe in "organized religion" but if you want to end all churches then go ahead. but before you do realize most homeless people are fed by religious organizations including the "salvation Army" .

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