Current Events

TOPICS:

Previous

PAGE: 

1 ... 

91 | 92 | 93 | 94 | 95

 ... 484

Next

Previous

PAGE: 

1 | 2 | 3

Next

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

JUL 29, 2007 08:32 PM



If you listen to what the Republicans are spewing out of their little rat holes these days, you would think the Democrats have not gotten shit done since they took over Congress. Republicans are on the attack because they have nothing else to run on in 2008. Democrats are polling better on every issue, even terrorism, so stick them with the label of lazy and hope for the best. Last week, Senator Jon Kyl issued talking points to his Republican hordes and they lapped it up.


Senate Republicans are preparing to take aim at Majority Leader Harry Reid over the August recess for being "all talk but no action" and helping drag the Democrat-led Congress' approval rating to a historic low, according to a document distributed to caucus members.

Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, is meeting with members yesterday and today to disseminate a message critical of Democrats for endlessly debating the Iraq war, stalling judicial nominations and squandering time on at least 300 investigations of the Bush administration.

"We really ought to be asking why this Democrat leadership won't allow Congress to move forward on serious policy debates," Mr. Kyl said, when asked about the talking-points memorandum he is circulating.

"Americans have been disappointed by a majority leadership that stages one show debate after another, while the only consistent legislative work getting done is the renaming of post offices."


The Republican machine went to work. Fox News ran with the story as fast as possible. The right wing blogs helped spread the word, while the President and Tony Snow spewed their bile.


What you have right now is partisanship on Capitol Hill that quite often boils down to insults, insinuations, inquisitions and investigations, rather than pursuing the normal business of trying to pass major pieces of legislation, such as appropriations bills.


Of course, the truth is entirely different than what Republicans want you to believe. From a minimum wage increase to help for veterans, the Democrats have actually done a decent job with a slim one-seat majority.


Democrats Passed First Minimum Wage Increase in a Decade. “The nation's lowest-paid workers will soon find extra money in their pockets as the minimum wage rises 70 cents to $5.85 an hour today, the first increase in a decade. It ends the longest span without a federal minimum wage increase since it was enacted in 1938. The previous increase came in September 1997, when a bill signed by President Bill Clinton raised the minimum 40 cents, to $5.15 an hour. Legislation signed by President Bush in May increases the wage 70 cents each summer until 2009, when all minimum-wage jobs will pay no less than $7.25 an hour.” [Associated Press, 7/24/07]

Democrats Passed War Spending Bill that Included $6 Billion for Hurricane Relief. “The war spending bill provides about $95 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan through Sept. 30 and billions in domestic projects, including more than $6 billion for hurricane relief.” [Associated Press, 5/25/07]

Democrats Passed Wounded Warriors Bill to Upgrade Military Health Care and Provide a 3.5% Pay Raise for Our Troops. “Senate Democrats scored a crucial pre-recess legislative win Wednesday, as a veterans’ healthcare measure and military pay raise previously attached to the stalled defense authorization bill passed unanimously. Republicans sought to add the 3.5 percent pay increase to the healthcare bill, dubbed the Wounded Warriors Act, before allowing immediate passage of the package.” [The Hill, 7/26/07]

Democrats Passed Legislation Out of Committee Providing the Largest Increase for Veterans Affairs Funding in History. “House and Senate appropriators are both confidently moving forward with their proposals to give the Veterans Affairs Department its largest-ever budget increase to address the increasing health care needs of veterans returning from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The House passed its version of the fiscal 2008 Military Construction and Veterans Affairs appropriations bill (HR 2642) June 15 by a vote of 409-2. The Senate Appropriations Committee approved, 28-1, its draft version on June 14.” [CQ Today, 6/15/07]

Iraq Supplemental Appropriations Bill Included Additional $1.8 Billion for Veterans’ Health Care. “The House and Senate approved the $120 billion package yesterday. The president had requested $103 billion, but Congress added additional spending requirements to increase veterans’ health care programs by $1.8 billion, military construction and realignment by almost $5 billion, and homeland security by more than $1 billion.” [VFW Press Release, 5/25/07]

Democrats Passed Bill to Implement 9/11 Commission Recommendations. “The Senate overwhelmingly approved legislation yesterday to implement many of the remaining reforms suggested by the Sept. 11 commission, answering its three-year-old call for better emergency communications; more money for cities at high risk of terrorist attacks; and tighter security for air cargo, ports, chemical plants and rail systems.” [Washington Post, 3/14/07]

Democrats Passed Ethics and Lobbying Reform Bill. “Senate Democrats and Republicans broke a difficult stalemate last night and approved 96 to 2 expansive legislation to curtail the influence of lobbyists, tighten congressional ethics rules and prevent the spouses of senators from lobbying senators and their staffs. The Senate legislation, hailed by proponents as the most significant ethics reform since Watergate, would ban gifts, meals and travel funded by lobbyists, and would force lawmakers to attach their names to special-interest provisions and pet projects that they slip into bills. Lawmakers would have to pay charter rates on corporate jets, not the far-cheaper first-class rates they pay now.” [Washington Post, 1/19/07]

Democrats Passed Bill to Cut Subsidies to Student Lenders and Provide $17 Billion in Grants and Other Student Aid. “The Senate overwhelmingly approved a wide-ranging overhaul of student loan programs early today that would pay for more than $17 billion in grants and other student aid by slashing subsidies to lending companies. Democrats and student advocates said the legislation, which passed in a 78 to 18 vote, would help millions of Americans pay for college in a time of steady and often steep tuition increases.” [Washington Post, 7/19/07]

Democrats Passed a Bill to Better Regulate the Student Loan Industry. “Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts made the comments shortly after senators passed legislation (S 1642) to reauthorize the primary law governing colleges, universities and federal aid by an overwhelming margin of 95-0…. The underlying bill would increase the amount of information that schools and lenders must provide to students — including up-front disclosure of loan rates and terms and data on total school costs — and would ban lenders from giving schools financial aid funds or any other perks to get on a preferred lender list…. The bill would require colleges and universities to draft codes of conduct governing relationships with lenders; shorten the application form for federal student aid; and authorize a pilot program to allow students to learn the total aid they can expect to receive up to two years in advance.” [CQ Today, 7/24/07]

Democrats Passed a Fiscally Responsible Budget. “Congress gave final approval on Thursday to a $2.9 trillion budget plan that promises big spending increases for education and health care and a federal surplus in five years… Democrats said their budget measure would put the government $41 billion in the black by 2012, after steady deficits since 2002. They said the measure also would reversing Bush's clampdown on domestic agencies' annual budgets passed by Congress… The budget plan would lock in a promise by Democrats to restore pay-as-you-go rules. Republicans abandoned these in 2001 to pass Bush's tax cuts.” [Associated Press, 5/17/07]

Democrats Passed Energy Bill That Increased Fuel-Efficiency Standards for First Time Since 1975. “The Senate passed a sweeping energy legislation package last night that would mandate the first substantial change in the nation's vehicle fuel-efficiency law since 1975 despite opposition from auto companies and their Senate supporters… The package, which still must pass the House, would also require that the use of biofuels climb to 36 billion gallons by 2022, would set penalties for gasoline price-gouging and would give the government new powers to investigate oil companies' pricing. It would provide federal grants and loan guarantees to promote research into fuel-efficient vehicles and would support test projects to capture carbon dioxide from coal-burning power plants to be stored underground.” [Washington Post, 6/22/07]


Even Republican Ray LaHood took time out to praise the Democrats for their work leading the 110th Congress.


"They've had a pretty strong quarter," said Rep. Ray LaHood (R-Ill.), who praised the insurance bill as "creative" and suggested the homeland security bill would pass overwhelmingly. "The first quarter was not so good, and that's why they're not looking so good in the polls, but this quarter is looking very good for them. They can send their members home crowing about their accomplishments, and they've done it in a bipartisan way, which is exactly what they promised to do.”


If you’re surprised to hear a Republican giving the Democrats props, there is a reason. Politicians tend to start telling the truth when they are retiring. This is LaHood’s last term in Congress.

You’ll be hearing the term “Do Nothing Congress” from Republicans until the 2008 elections. They seem to have forgotten that they have only one seat less than Democrats, which makes them just as culpable for any lack of legislation. But that won’t stop them. The idiots can literally shut down Congress and then blame the Democrats - just as the Founding Fathers planned. It's something to take pride in if you are a Republican. At least they have their priorities all figured out: Republican first, American second.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

JUL 30, 2007 09:49 AM

those craptastical layabouts! they should all be fired! removed from office! beaten in the streets for their laziness and their hypocritical bullhonkery!

i'm talking about you, obstructionist Republicans!

slayn001

slayn001

United Kingdom
February 2005

JUL 30, 2007 10:25 AM

you know, kind of offtopic, but does anyone else really really hate tony snow? i can't hear the man's name without becoming irate, he bothers me almost as much as gonzo.

freshprncebelair

freshprncebelair

Ellicott City, MD
June 2004

JUL 30, 2007 10:48 AM

Kudos on starting to reform the student loan issue, and trying to get the government back in the black ink

Rafi

Rafi

Santa Monica, CA
January 2003

JUL 30, 2007 10:59 AM

slayn001 said:
you know, kind of offtopic, but does anyone else really really hate tony snow? i can't hear the man's name without becoming irate, he bothers me almost as much as gonzo.



Does anybody not really really hate Tony Snow?

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

JUL 30, 2007 11:48 AM

Rafi said:

slayn001 said:
you know, kind of offtopic, but does anyone else really really hate tony snow? i can't hear the man's name without becoming irate, he bothers me almost as much as gonzo.



Does anybody not really really hate Tony Snow?


I was going to say his mom, but I saw him on CNN and could swear I saw a puncture wound from a coat hanger on his noggin.

-TM

slayn001

slayn001

United Kingdom
February 2005

JUL 30, 2007 03:46 PM

Rafi said:

slayn001 said:
you know, kind of offtopic, but does anyone else really really hate tony snow? i can't hear the man's name without becoming irate, he bothers me almost as much as gonzo.



Does anybody not really really hate Tony Snow?




i don't know, i mean, he's not actually in charge on anything, so you can't really say that the shitty stuff happening is his fault, but then again, how could any decent person actually say the stuff he says without going home and eating a bullet.

WADO

WADO

Brooklyn, NY
March 2006

JUL 30, 2007 04:43 PM

xazapdmytinu

xazapdmytinu

Fort Collins, CO
July 2007

JUL 30, 2007 05:11 PM

ahahaha! Democrats...Asses! Get it?!

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUL 30, 2007 05:50 PM

well, truthfully, the republicans have done just as much as the democrats. its just that everything a democrat proposes to help the american people, a republican stops for thier mega-million overlords.

[/PARTIZEEN RHETTORIK LOLZ!!!!1!]

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

JUL 30, 2007 05:51 PM

xazapdmytinu said:
ahahaha! Democrats...Asses! Get it?!



If only I was retarded enough to have thought of that.

SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

JUL 30, 2007 06:00 PM

slayn001 said:

Rafi said:

slayn001 said:
you know, kind of offtopic, but does anyone else really really hate tony snow? i can't hear the man's name without becoming irate, he bothers me almost as much as gonzo.



Does anybody not really really hate Tony Snow?




i don't know, i mean, he's not actually in charge on anything, so you can't really say that the shitty stuff happening is his fault, but then again, how could any decent person actually say the stuff he says without going home and eating a bullet.



The guy is worse than Baghdad Bob, since his statements are just as incredulous, yet nobody will kill his family if he quits.

So he must enjoy lying to people.

Tiger_Fodder

Tiger_Fodder

Braintree, MA
June 2007

JUL 30, 2007 06:51 PM

Everyone knows that either you are with the President or you are a terrorist! So minimum wage, veteran health care....those are the latest weapons of the terrorists.

eGore

eGore

Dallas, TX
July 2004

JUL 31, 2007 08:33 AM

I think most of you guys really need some help and a good dose of reality. First of all, to talk about hating someone just because their ideology is different than yours is not very "liberal". The political left (of which I used to be a part of) has become so filled with vile hatred that it's no different than the likes of Fallwell and Robertson. Gee, ever thought it was wrong to hate someone just because they're gay? Well, it's just as wrong to hate someone just because they are NOT a Demotcrat. It's okay to disagree with someone over their lifestyle or their ideology. It's not okay to hate them because of it. In either case it's bigotry.

And all that crap about what the congress has passed and not passed is just the same old talking points that both parties use after coming into office. When Gingrich took over office, they passed plenty of bills, doing just what they promised. But you wouldn't cite that here because you are a Democrat. I've got news for all of you. A politician is a politician. And they will sway whatever way the wind blows to make money for their big donor base. Both parties do it. Both parties are hypocrites for calling the other one out. And let me give you another dose of reality. Neither one cares about you or your family except when it's time to vote. Plain and simple. It's a sad state of affairs, but it's true. Both parties have some appealing ideas, and both parties have some off the wall bullshit that they try to shove down our throat because of the fringe voters that they have to appease.

It's a flawed system, yes. But it's by far not the worse out there. And the reference to Bagdad Bob? Come on....be happy you live in a place where Tony Snow can say what he wants (and you too, by the way) without having to worry that his family would be killed. Badgad Bob would have been tortured and murdered if he didn't make a fool of himself and tow the line. If Snow didn't believe in his ideology, and decided not to tow the line, he could just move off to a ranch somewhere and enjoy the rest of his life. If you guys really think we live within a fascist regime, I hope you one day get a chance to experience real fascism. It does the Jewish who suffered in the 1930's a great dishonor to even compare our lives under Bush with their's under Hitler. Yet I see it on signs at every protest rally.

Drinking the liberal Kool Aid is no different than drinking the conservative one. Either way, you're still a zombie who can't think for yourself. And as long as they keep us divided, they can continue to pass laws giving money back to their big donor bases. Because until you can personally deliver them at least a million in campaign money, no one in Washington really cares about you.

Back to my first point, don't hate someone because they think differently than you. The whole point of our punk movement in the early days was to be whoever we are, regardless of what that was, and for people to accept us all. The fact that we live in a society that accepts our differences (I'd rather be laughed at for being/ thinking different than thrown into an oven or run over by a tank) is a wonderful thing. And regardless of whether it was George Bush, Tony Snow, Bill Clinton, or Harry Reid, if they decided to dive off the stage and into the pit, I'd be there to catch them....regardless of what I think of their ideology.

freshprncebelair

freshprncebelair

Ellicott City, MD
June 2004

JUL 31, 2007 08:55 AM



Gee, ever thought it was wrong to hate someone just because they're gay? Well, it's just as wrong to hate someone just because they are NOT a Demotcrat. It's okay to disagree with someone over their lifestyle or their ideology. It's not okay to hate them because of it. In either case it's bigotry.



Being gay doesn't affect anyone else necessarily, but if there are bad public policy decisions, it affects everyone.

Everyone tries to shape the world around them in a way that best benefits themselves. Some people are just much more effective at it

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

JUL 31, 2007 09:23 AM

eGore said:
I think most of you guys really need some help and a good dose of reality. First of all, to talk about hating someone just because their ideology is different than yours is not very "liberal". The political left (of which I used to be a part of) has become so filled with vile hatred that it's no different than the likes of Fallwell and Robertson. Gee, ever thought it was wrong to hate someone just because they're gay? Well, it's just as wrong to hate someone just because they are NOT a Demotcrat. It's okay to disagree with someone over their lifestyle or their ideology. It's not okay to hate them because of it. In either case it's bigotry.

And all that crap about what the congress has passed and not passed is just the same old talking points that both parties use after coming into office. When Gingrich took over office, they passed plenty of bills, doing just what they promised. But you wouldn't cite that here because you are a Democrat.



Errr. Stopped reading right there. I'm not a Democrat, genius. Now who is applying labels?

eGore

eGore

Dallas, TX
July 2004

JUL 31, 2007 09:39 AM

I think it's great that people care about the country we live in enough to write these threads. And yes, everyone does try to shape the world around them in a way that best benefits themselves. But my beef here is with the hate filled comments in this thread. Yours was not one of them, and I'm glad that some of you didn't stoop to that level. It's one thing to disagree, and put together a good argument to base that disagreement on. But it's another to make comments about how he should want to go home and eat a bullet, and to specifically say that you "hate" a man for standing up for what he believes. If you don't believe in what he believes, that's okay. And vise versa.

I make the gay comment because it does affect others. I am not part of the christian right, but those that are don't think that their children should be subjected to that lifestyle. But schools, the media, and Hollywood force that lifestyle on those people every day. I think the christian right is wrong, but I don't hate them. They have a right to their opinion.

I used to work in a company that told us they were going to start offering health care to gay couples. It caused the health care costs for all of us to go up nearly 50%. It did affect me. Yes, it bothered me to see more money coming out of my already meager paycheck. But I didn't start hating my gay co-workers because of it. They had a right to want that for themselves. I respected that.

My biggest problem with liberals, and the reason I stopped being one myself, is that their claim to being open minded is as hypocritical as anything coming from the right these days. I consider myself open minded. I respect everyone's opinion on political and social matters, whether I think it's right or wrong. Even if I think it's stupid, I still understand that we all have a right to those opinions. I may try to change someone's mind with a good argument, but I will never say that we don't all have a right to our own opinion.

If we start saying that it's okay to "hate" someone we disagree with because they are in charge, then we begin going down a very slippery slope. Communism and Fascism are great examples of what can happen when either the left or the right is given too much power and festers hatred in their hearts. Hatred does not solve problems.

eGore

eGore

Dallas, TX
July 2004

JUL 31, 2007 09:48 AM

FearTheReaper, maybe it was wrong to apply the Democrat label, but it was not a blanket label towards everyone on this thread. If I had to give a label, maybe liberal would have been better. Most of my comments were aimed at the people making hate filled comments on the thread. Not at your article. However, the part about the congressional talking points was. My only point there is that all congresses have passed plenty of bills, and all of them use obstructionist measures to block the other side. And both parties are hypocrites for crying when the other one does it.

Obviously, you lean to the left (or liberal) side of the political spectrum. Otherwise, you would not have thrown in the typical Fox News dig or the "spew their bile" comment. So applying some sort of "left" label would apply. As someone who considers himself more in the center, I think that as long as the left has their media outlets (and we all know they do) then the right should have theirs too. I like to listen to and read news across both spectrums, because the truth often lies somewhere between the lines.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

JUL 31, 2007 09:52 AM

eGore said:
I make the gay comment because it does affect others. I am not part of the christian right, but those that are don't think that their children should be subjected to that lifestyle. But schools, the media, and Hollywood force that lifestyle on those people every day.



Explain to me how this mythical creature known as "the gay lifestyle" is being forced on anyone.

eGore said:
My biggest problem with liberals, and the reason I stopped being one myself, is that their claim to being open minded is as hypocritical as anything coming from the right these days.



I'm a liberal and I make no claims to be "open minded" in the context you claim, which apparently means "don't worry, be happy".

eGore said:
I consider myself open minded. I respect everyone's opinion on political and social matters, whether I think it's right or wrong. Even if I think it's stupid, I still understand that we all have a right to those opinions. I may try to change someone's mind with a good argument, but I will never say that we don't all have a right to our own opinion.



I don't respect everyone's opinion, because some people have opinions that are so laughably out of tune with reality that they deserve scorn and ridicule rather than respect. I'm not going to listen to some Holocaust denier or "Jewish alien lizard one world government implanted a chip in my brain" wacko drone on about their particular brand of bullshit and just nod and say "Well, I respect your opinion".

eGore said:
If we start saying that it's okay to "hate" someone we disagree with because they are in charge, then we begin going down a very slippery slope. Communism and Fascism are great examples of what can happen when either the left or the right is given too much power and festers hatred in their hearts. Hatred does not solve problems.



So if Communists or Fascists were in charge, it'd be wrong to hate them?

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUL 31, 2007 09:54 AM

eGore said:
It's one thing to disagree, and put together a good argument to base that disagreement on. But it's another to make comments about how he should want to go home and eat a bullet, and to specifically say that you "hate" a man for standing up for what he believes. If you don't believe in what he believes, that's okay. And vise versa.


That's idiotic. Some beliefs are simply hateful. Orville Faubus stood up for what he believed in, for instance. So does Fred Phelps. So did Timothy McVeigh, and so does Osama bin Laden.

You're seriously overestimating the level of "hate" in this this thread, anyway. No-one is advocating genocide here, Mr. Moderate.

eGore said:
I make the gay comment because it does affect others. I am not part of the christian right, but those that are don't think that their children should be subjected to that lifestyle. But schools, the media, and Hollywood force that lifestyle on those people every day. I think the christian right is wrong, but I don't hate them. They have a right to their opinion.


There is so much wrong with this statement even I'm at a loss as to where to begin. Congratulations. That's really hard to do.

eGore said
My biggest problem with liberals, and the reason I stopped being one myself, is that their claim to being open minded is as hypocritical as anything coming from the right these days. I consider myself open minded. I respect everyone's opinion on political and social matters, whether I think it's right or wrong. Even if I think it's stupid, I still understand that we all have a right to those opinions. I may try to change someone's mind with a good argument, but I will never say that we don't all have a right to our own opinion.


Wow. And yet you appear to have no problems with making sweeping, wholly negative generalizations about anyone who calls themselves, or is called by others, a "liberal."

Very stylish. Way to be open-minded and respectful.

eGore said
If we start saying that it's okay to "hate" someone we disagree with because they are in charge, then we begin going down a very slippery slope. Communism and Fascism are great examples of what can happen when either the left or the right is given too much power and festers hatred in their hearts. Hatred does not solve problems.


I had to resist the urge to Godwin you earlier, so it's really just as well you did it yourself.

And your smug and self-righteous "centrism" in no way renders you immune to the very processes you're pretending to decry.

Nice try, though.

eGore

eGore

Dallas, TX
July 2004

JUL 31, 2007 10:27 AM


Uncognitive said:
I'm a liberal and I make no claims to be "open minded"

At least you admit it.

As for Zarth....I never claimed to be self-righteous. I only point out that hypocrisies exist on both sides of the spectrum. If someone said "I dislike gay people" you would have a problem with that. If someone said "I dislike those who disagree with gay people" you would applaud them. And this is hypocritical. I used gay as an example, by the way. You can substitute anything you'd like their. I'm not a homophobe and have nothing against people with alternative lifestyle choices.

I never claimed that anyone was advocating genocide. But the level of hatred that the left has succumbed to is mind-numbing. I see the potential for McVeighs throughout the liberal culture these days. Mocumentary movies are made about wanting to kill the president. The signs I see at so called peace rallies are insane.

And I will not defend George Bush or any of his neo-con allies. I only point out that open mindedness does not exist in the left any more than the right leaning cultures. The McVeigh and Bin Lauden comparisons are ridiculous. They only prove my point. Those two were not expressing their rights to believe in what they wanted. They were killing innocent people. Since I obviously have to spell this out....it's okay to believe that abortion is wrong. It's not okay to shoot an abortion doctor because of those beliefs. Is that clear enough. So it's okay to disagree with Bush, Snow, or anyone else. I start to see problems when people make comments like "eating a bullet", etc. No, its not the same thing as actually harming another person. But to allow that kind of hatred to fester in the leftist movement is what will one day lead to violence. Didn't someone once make a comment that Rush Limbaugh's hatred spewed on the radio every day was one of the reasons for McVeigh's actions? Whether that's true or not, it was talked about in liberal circles. I was in them. Well, the same goes the other way. When you breed hatred, it's only a matter of time before it leads to violence.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

JUL 31, 2007 10:42 AM

eGore said:
If someone said "I dislike gay people" you would have a problem with that. If someone said "I dislike those who disagree with gay people" you would applaud them. And this is hypocritical.



Wow, if you really think that "I hate racists" has the same social and cultural context and impact as "I hate black people", then have fun being "open minded".

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUL 31, 2007 10:49 AM

eGore said:
Uncognitive said:
I'm a liberal and I make no claims to be "open minded"

At least you admit it.

As for Zarth....I never claimed to be self-righteous.


The funny thing is, you don't have to claim it to be it. Look it up.

eGore said:
I only point out that hypocrisies exist on both sides of the spectrum. If someone said "I dislike gay people" you would have a problem with that. If someone said "I dislike those who disagree with gay people" you would applaud them. And this is hypocritical.


Don't make claims about what I would or would not do in your hypotheticals. Because you have no idea what you're talking about.

What the fuck does "disagreeing with gay people" mean, anyway? Disagreeing over what?

If they're disagreeing with the right of homosexuals to exist, you bet I'd have a problem with that, because that's a support of genocide. If it's disagreeing with them over whether or not Broadway musicals are "cool," I could give a fuck.

As for hyposcrisy, as I said, you're doing pretty wellat it yourself, with your overgeneralizations about "liberals" (however they're defined) and how hate-filled and and hypocritical they are.

Seriously, dude, take a look in the mirror.

eGore said:
I used gay as an example, by the way. You can substitute anything you'd like their. I'm not a homophobe and have nothing against people with alternative lifestyle choices.


It's not a fucking choice. Saying it is shows either how ignorant you are, or how bigoted. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're just ignorant.

eGore said:
I never claimed that anyone was advocating genocide. But the level of hatred that the left has succumbed to is mind-numbing. I see the potential for McVeighs throughout the liberal culture these days. Mocumentary movies are made about wanting to kill the president. The signs I see at so called peace rallies are insane.


Oh my god, there are extremists?

So fucking what? How does this give you a right to say that all liberals hate-filled hypocrites? Do you hold all conservatives responsible for Ann Coulter and Fred Phelps? For Hitler? What you've said in this thread was stupid and bigoted. Moreso than anything anyone has said.

eGore said:
And I will not defend George Bush or any of his neo-con allies. I only point out that open mindedness does not exist in the left any more than the right leaning cultures. The McVeigh and Bin Lauden comparisons are ridiculous. They only prove my point. Those two were not expressing their rights to believe in what they wanted. They were killing innocent people. Since I obviously have to spell this out....it's okay to believe that abortion is wrong. It's not okay to shoot an abortion doctor because of those beliefs. Is that clear enough. So it's okay to disagree with Bush, Snow, or anyone else. I start to see problems when people make comments like "eating a bullet", etc. No, its not the same thing as actually harming another person. But to allow that kind of hatred to fester in the leftist movement is what will one day lead to violence. Didn't someone once make a comment that Rush Limbaugh's hatred spewed on the radio every day was one of the reasons for McVeigh's actions? Whether that's true or not, it was talked about in liberal circles. I was in them. Well, the same goes the other way. When you breed hatred, it's only a matter of time before it leads to violence.


Let's take a look at these quotes.

slayn001 said:
i don't know, i mean, he's not actually in charge on anything, so you can't really say that the shitty stuff happening is his fault, but then again, how could any decent person actually say the stuff he says without going home and eating a bullet.



SirPsychoSexy said:
The guy is worse than Baghdad Bob, since his statements are just as incredulous, yet nobody will kill his family if he quits.

So he must enjoy lying to people.


By God, you're right! How could I have been so blind?! They're surely about to firebomb the White House itself, and probably poop on the flag!!! Call Homeland Security at once!!!!!

Right.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

JUL 31, 2007 10:57 AM

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

Previous

PAGE: 

1 | 2 | 3

Next