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Rahodeb

Rahodeb

Los Angeles, CA
March 2006

JUL 28, 2007 07:02 PM



Ah, the brain: Powerful, complex, highly funtional, and soon-to-be compatible with the latest technical hardware. Imagine a world in which we could purchase more RAM for our very own noggins! It might be a while before we get there, but researchers at the University of Florida have developed chips which someday might be inserted in our brains.

It may sound like science fiction, but University of Florida researchers are developing devices that can interpret signals in the brain and stimulate neurons to perform correctly, advances that might someday make it possible for a tiny computer to fix diseases or even allow a paralyzed person to control a prosthetic device with his thoughts.

They're calling it a "neuroprosthetic" chip, and are currently putting their cool $2.5 million grant to use studying the concept in rats, with aims to test in human noodles within the next four years. The initial goal is to repair conditions and disabilities such as paralysis and epilepsy.

“We really feel like if we can do this, we’ll have the technology to offer new options for patients,” said Justin Sanchez, director of the UF Neuroprosthetics Research Group and an assistant professor of pediatric neurology, neuroscience and biomedical engineering. “There’s kind of a revolution going on right now in the neurosciences and biomedical engineering. People are trying to take engineering approaches for directly interfacing with the brain.

“The hope is we can cure more immediately a variety of diseases.”

I hope that some of these "people who are trying to take engineering approaches for directly interfacing with the brain" are thinking about the commercial possibilities, here. Forget the CliffsNotes—buy the neuroprosthetic chip with the whole damn book on it! Or, if you've got the funds, splurge on the entire college education, complete with honorary degree! Traveling to Karachi, but don't speak Urdu? Get the damn chip! Traffic school, just buy the chip! Those pesky wedding vows, or the stats for that upcoming presentation at work? Special order it! Whatever you need help remembering, we can remember it for you wholesale.

imclever

imclever

Kent, WA
February 2007

JUL 29, 2007 04:15 AM

Jack me in.

Nixie

Nixie

United Kingdom
March 2006

JUL 29, 2007 04:26 AM

another fine example of life imitating art

Greybeard

Greybeard

Los Angeles, CA
December 2006

JUL 29, 2007 04:31 AM

Terminal Man

Johnny Mnemonic

Orbital Mind Control Lasers

We can hope the chip and firmware development tools are Linux-based, not Micro$oft.

Lockeblade

Lockeblade

Australia
May 2007

JUL 29, 2007 05:00 AM

Personally, I think all technological research should be suspended until 4 fundamental things have been created:

1. Light sabers

2. Material Transporters

3. Holodecks

4. Replicators

Then, and only then, may such frivolous things as disability curing brain-chips be invented

SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

JUL 29, 2007 06:26 AM

imclever said:
Jack me in.



I would like off, please.

SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

JUL 29, 2007 06:33 AM

Greybeard said:
Terminal Man

Johnny Mnemonic

Orbital Mind Control Lasers

We can hope the chip and firmware development tools are Linux-based, not Micro$oft.



Yeesh, I don't even want to think about what a BSOD could do to a person. *shudders*

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

JUL 29, 2007 06:45 AM

Where can I volunteer?!?!?!?!!?
Can I get an optical heads up display with that too!!???!?!?!?
surreal

Moonrabbit

Moonrabbit

Vancouver, BC
February 2005

JUL 29, 2007 06:52 AM

I for one will be leading a rebellion against the techno-zombie empire.

How 'bout a little EMP, Scarecrow! Hyaaa!

KingMike

KingMike

Westfield, NY
October 2006

JUL 29, 2007 07:15 AM

I just got done watching Total Recall 2 nights ago. Or did I?

How about Exosquad, anyone remember that show? The American cartoon show where humans plug into their mecha via a port on the back of their necks? The plugging into The Matrix concept seems borrowed from that show, where I'm sure Exosquad probably borrowed it from somewhere else.

imclever

imclever

Kent, WA
February 2007

JUL 29, 2007 07:42 AM

SirPsychoSexy said:

imclever said:
Jack me in.



I would like off, please.




Oops, that is what i really wanted.

philloak

philloak

USA
July 2005

JUL 29, 2007 08:12 AM

i hope these are developed and the government mandates everyone gets the "stop being a fat, greedy asshole" chip. let's start making the world a better place.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

JUL 29, 2007 08:29 AM

KingMike said:
I just got done watching Total Recall 2 nights ago. Or did I?

How about Exosquad, anyone remember that show? The American cartoon show where humans plug into their mecha via a port on the back of their necks? The plugging into The Matrix concept seems borrowed from that show, where I'm sure Exosquad probably borrowed it from somewhere else.



It's borrowed from this movie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079285/

Rahodeb

Rahodeb

Los Angeles, CA
March 2006

JUL 29, 2007 09:11 AM

SirPsychoSexy said:

Greybeard said:
Terminal Man

Johnny Mnemonic

Orbital Mind Control Lasers

We can hope the chip and firmware development tools are Linux-based, not Micro$oft.



Yeesh, I don't even want to think about what a BSOD could do to a person. *shudders*



Something like this?

zoom image

shapeshifter23

shapeshifter23

San Francisco, CA
September 2005

JUL 29, 2007 09:31 AM


The initial goal is to repair conditions and disabilities such as paralysis and epilepsy.



Uh-huh. And the only reason parents are being encouraged to microchip their kids is to ensure their safety in the event of criminal abductions, etc. And the goal of GMO agriculture is to end world hunger. And, uhh, we're only over there in Iraq so as to bring democracy to them peoples.

And, yeah of course, there's lots of potential corporate profit to be had, but that's entirely beside the point. And they aren't even thinking about things like population control or total world domination, those ideas never entered their minds, I'm sure...

bendingunit23

bendingunit23

Victoria, BC
April 2005

JUL 29, 2007 09:56 AM

Greybeard said:
Terminal Man

Johnny Mnemonic

Orbital Mind Control Lasers

We can hope the chip and firmware development tools are Linux-based, not Micro$oft.




red dwarf

Rimmer's older brothers got 'encyclopedia' chips but he didn't as his parents couldn't afford it for him. I wasn't a fan of that bit of the plot as it gave a reason for rimmer being a failure other than his own mental issues.


I'm totally fine with it's use in helping the disabled, letting
Amina walk better. And totally disgusted with all the possible ways the technology could be misused.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

JUL 29, 2007 10:15 AM

shapeshifter23 said:


The initial goal is to repair conditions and disabilities such as paralysis and epilepsy.



Uh-huh. And the only reason parents are being encouraged to microchip their kids is to ensure their safety in the event of criminal abductions, etc. And the goal of GMO agriculture is to end world hunger. And, uhh, we're only over there in Iraq so as to bring democracy to them peoples.

And, yeah of course, there's lots of potential corporate profit to be had, but that's entirely beside the point. And they aren't even thinking about things like population control or total world domination, those ideas never entered their minds, I'm sure...



Well, you know, in the end it can't be much worse than this.

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

JUL 29, 2007 11:31 AM

Cool..so I can go back to huffing.

*inhales*

Necia

Necia

San Francisco, CA
August 2005

JUL 29, 2007 12:52 PM

shapeshifter23 said:


The initial goal is to repair conditions and disabilities such as paralysis and epilepsy.



Uh-huh. And the only reason parents are being encouraged to microchip their kids is to ensure their safety in the event of criminal abductions, etc. And the goal of GMO agriculture is to end world hunger. And, uhh, we're only over there in Iraq so as to bring democracy to them peoples.

And, yeah of course, there's lots of potential corporate profit to be had, but that's entirely beside the point. And they aren't even thinking about things like population control or total world domination, those ideas never entered their minds, I'm sure...



I wonder if tinfoil hats will remain an effective defense once the mind control is inside your mind???





Maybe I'm being myopic here, but I personally think that the possibility of treating and curing some life-altering neurological disorders and malfunctions for which there have oftentimes been pretty much no recourse is pretty goddamn sweet--and my reaction stops there. I have no desire to jump immediately into these wild sci-fi-novel hypotheticals about mind control and government abuse and shit, and I frankly see no logical purpose to doing so. What if you were severely epileptic? I bet you'd be all over this microchip idea if the only other treatment option after a certain point in the development of the disorder was to have significant chunks of your brain removed.

Why do people insist upon serving up this 1984-esque paranoia in response to every advance we make? People make this exact sort of paranoia-ridden argument against stem cell research and therapeutic cloning, you know. Are you against that, too?

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

JUL 29, 2007 01:02 PM

first person to try to put AOL in my head's remains will be found scattered across the countryside in what can only be described as "artistic sculptures."

that said, i want a phone in my head that's operated by my mind and a HUD-like imaginary display that i can call up at will pronto.

imclever

imclever

Kent, WA
February 2007

JUL 29, 2007 01:48 PM

Colinism said:

KingMike said:
I just got done watching Total Recall 2 nights ago. Or did I?

How about Exosquad, anyone remember that show? The American cartoon show where humans plug into their mecha via a port on the back of their necks? The plugging into The Matrix concept seems borrowed from that show, where I'm sure Exosquad probably borrowed it from somewhere else.



It's borrowed from this movie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079285/



Or from Sci-fi literature, where it has been a staple for decades.

You know...the GOOD sci-fi....not craptastic movies.

geo35

geo35

Minneapolis, MN
January 2003

JUL 29, 2007 02:15 PM

philloak said:
i hope these are developed and the government mandates everyone gets the "stop being a fat, greedy asshole" chip. let's start making the world a better place.



Yeah! I want the government to mandate brain implants and what behaviors get implanted. No chance for misuse there, nope.

Greybeard

Greybeard

Los Angeles, CA
December 2006

JUL 29, 2007 03:01 PM

Necia said:
Why do people insist upon serving up this 1984-esque paranoia in response to every advance we make? People make this exact sort of paranoia-ridden argument against stem cell research and therapeutic cloning, you know. Are you against that, too?



1) Murphy's Law: Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.

2) Finagle's Law: Murphy was an optimist.

3) The Government is not your friend.

4) Doctors are just as human and fallible as any of their patients.

a) My oldest sister died at age 7 from a brain tumor that was misdiagnosed as an emotional disturbance. After 2 years of money wasted on psychotherapy, the truth was discovered during the autopsy.

b) My father almost died 3 years later of colon tumors that were misdiagnosed (by different doctors) as an emotional disturbance. Having your guts in continual pain can make you depressed and grouchy.

c) It took the doctors 15 years to figure out that my surviving sister had an ovarian cyst. When removed, it burst. From the fluid volume, it was estimated to have weighed 50 pounds.

d) It took the doctors 30 years to get around to correctly diagnosing me with Bipolar Disorder and Post-Taumatic Stress Disorder.

5) Computer engineers and programmers have a well-earned reputation for going off into la-la land, designing things the way they imagine they ought to be without first checking to see how things actually are.

a) I have yet to see a CADD program that puts a T-square, triangles, protractor, and compass on the screen. I haven't seen a way to rotate an ellipse either, though perhaps some high-end application that I haven't had a chance to try will do it.

b) I have yet to see an OS or an application that implements "resolution" in the same sense that I learned it in my High School Graphic Arts (print shop) class 40 years ago.

tekniq7

tekniq7

Minneapolis, MN
July 2005

JUL 29, 2007 03:03 PM

pick me... PICK ME!

WTB Internet in my head... That would make gameshows rather pointless. It would become who can search google better... tongue

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

JUL 29, 2007 04:48 PM

Imagician said:
Personally, I think all technological research should be suspended until 4 fundamental things have been created:

1. Light sabers

2. Material Transporters

3. Holodecks

4. Replicators

Then, and only then, may such frivolous things as disability curing brain-chips be invented



Well, 2, and 4 use similar technology. I think your list is missing something important though. Hoverbikes.

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