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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

JUN 28, 2007 09:21 PM



Murphy, Texas is a small town 20 minutes outside of downtown Dallas. ItÂ’s a wealthy community with a population just over 11,000. But most importantly, it is a fantastic place to lure and trap pedophiles.

Dateline NBC has an incredible journalism series called, To Catch A Predator. The news show entices pedophiles online by posing as young teenagers, lures them to a location and lowers the boom – all on camera. Then reporter Chris Hansen asks the grown men how they could do such a thing. He talks in an almost friendly tone to milk the most out of these men, whose lives were ended just seconds before. Viewers at home can feel disgusted, righteous and afraid for their own children all at once. It really is the height of journalism and civilization.

Dateline chose Murphy for their latest installment. They contacted city manager Craig Sherwood, who approved of the operation. He made sure to keep it a secret from everyone, including the mayor and City Council. He may have even put on a “secret spy outfit,” but we can’t be sure.

The sting went down last November. Over 4 days, people who were posing as kids in chat rooms lured 24 men to a home in a Murphy neighborhood. Notice I wrote “people” and not “law enforcement officers.” NBC uses a group called Perverted Justice to pose as underage kids and lure the pedophiles. It is a clever name because it has three meanings: First, that the justice system favors the perverted criminals. Second, that they are catching perverts and third, that the group is mostly made up of retards.

Not all of the suspects who chatted with the posers showed up at the house. Some made the right choice and did not follow their sick impulses to molest kids. Clearly their names should be given to police and they should be arrested. Or, better yet, the Dateline television crew can show up at their house and confront them in front of their own wife and kids. That way the children can be scarred for life and the wife can be shamed into a never-ending depression.

This is exactly what happened to Louis Conradt, Jr. He had engaged in some naughty sex talk with a fake 13-year-old boy. Unfortunately, Louis was an assistant prosecutor in a nearby town and he immediately knew what was happening when he saw the reporter on his lawn. He promptly blew his brains out. In doing so, he totally fucked up an awesome interview. He apparently did not realize television comes first.

The suicide blew the sting. Now everyone in the town knew what was going on and they were not happy. For some reason, the local towns people were upset that Dateline NBC was luring pedophiles INTO their town from other locations. And the show did not pick the best house in the area.

"They can chase predators all they want, but they shouldn't do it in a populated area with children, two blocks from an elementary school," said Lisa Watson, 33, who lives down the road from the sting house and has three children and another on the way.

Bryan Whorton, who lives with his wife and baby across the street from the house, said his neighborhood was put in danger. Cars sped up and down the street and police sprinted from hiding spots, guns drawn, to arrest suspects, he said. One suspect dropped a bag of crack, Whorton said.


Jesus, lighten up, hippies. There is nothing wrong with luring crackhead phedophiles close to an elementary school for a television show.

But after all that effort, the pedophiles will not be charged. Which means I can only call them, “dudes who talk about sex to kids and want to fuck them,” or DWTASTKAWTFT, for short. The district attorney says the DWTASTKAWTFTs won’t be charged because the cases were “tainted by the involvement of amateurs.”

Amateurs? What the fuck? They are experts from Perverted Justice and Hollywood! Plus, NBC has filmed six other episodes of To Catch A Predador. Six. They could write a book. Or make a TWO hour special.

The fact that somebody besides police officers were involved is what makes this case bad," said the DA, who was informed of the sting in advance but did not participate. "If professionals had been running the show, they would have done a much better job rather than being at the beck and call of outsiders."


The DA has no jurisdiction in 16 of the cases because the DWTASTKAWTFTs and the decoys were outside the county when they were in the chat rooms. The rest of the cases were dropped because both the police and NBC cannot guarantee the chat logs were authentic. It turns out that police usually handle Internet stings differently than TV shows.

Eric Nichols, a Texas deputy attorney general, said that when law enforcement authorities pull an Internet sex sting, officers posing as decoys follow strict rules. Detailed chat logs are kept to ensure that "sex talk" is initiated by the potential predator. That way, a defendant cannot claim entrapment.


This is exactly why the guys at Perverted Justice picked their name! Fuck! The DWTASTKAWTFTs win again!

In a final blow, Murphy gave city manager Craig Sherwood the boot for inviting the show to town. Good job, all around!

Yay, television!

MarcyBeth

MarcyBeth

Ocala, FL
July 2006

JUN 29, 2007 09:08 AM

yeah, for me it's a double edged sword. i'm happy pedophiles are being exposed, humiliated, and possibly prosecuted.

but the fact that it becomes entertainment makes me sick.

blah.

Markus001

Markus001

United Kingdom
November 2004

JUN 29, 2007 09:11 AM

Sexual Predators should be caught, and indeed punished for the appalling things they've done. There's no doubt about this fact.

However, I am dead against this perverse 'reality television' style method of catching them, since it's basically saying vigilantism is absolutely fine - provided it's televised.

Edit: Oh, and provided it's entertaining.

All_Sewn_Up

All_Sewn_Up

Papua New Guinea
January 2007

JUN 29, 2007 09:42 AM

Ugh. There's so much that's fucked up in this story that I don't even know where to begin.

Heathen_Dave

Heathen_Dave

Birmingham, AL
July 2005

JUN 29, 2007 10:05 AM

FearTheReaper said:
This is exactly what happened to Louis Conradt, Jr. He had engaged in some naughty sex talk with a fake 13-year-old boy. Unfortunately, Louis was an assistant prosecutor in a nearby town and he immediately knew what was happening when he saw the reporter on his lawn. He promptly blew his brains out. In doing so, he totally fucked up an awesome interview. He apparently did not realize television comes first.



The best part is, I bet the production crew was furious this wasn't caught on tape. Talk about a season finale!

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Trahern

Trahern

United Kingdom
March 2003

JUN 29, 2007 10:07 AM

Paedophiles are always hot news, especially when they're caught. Unfortunately the concept of this show does not constitute 'news' and should never have seen the light of day. Every time the cops around the world bust a group of pervs, a few of them kill themselves. How could NBC not see something like that suicide coming?

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

JUN 29, 2007 10:10 AM

Reminds me of the time, before the internet, when I tried to lure pedophiles mailing child porn by disguising myself as a mailbox. The effort was not appreciated by the United States Postal Inspection Service.

CatWorship

CatWorship

Pottstown, PA
January 2007

JUN 29, 2007 10:10 AM

I hate this show! I mean how is talking to someone who is NOT a teenager a crime? How can they even prosecute these individuals? This is some serious future crime "Minority Report" shit here!

freshprncebelair

freshprncebelair

Ellicott City, MD
June 2004

JUN 29, 2007 10:11 AM



since it's basically saying vigilantism is absolutely fine



Is it still vigilantism if they merely expose criminals?

If so, does that make other investigative journalism vigilantism?

GonzoChaote

GonzoChaote

Vancouver, BC
March 2007

JUN 29, 2007 10:14 AM

The sickest thing is that these people genuinely believe they're doing society a favor when all they're doing is fucking things up for legitimate law enforcement. Imagine what it must have cost the cops to even execute that sting. Of course it was idiotic for them to go through with it if they didn't have a prosecutor on board anyway.

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

JUN 29, 2007 10:25 AM

You can watch these on youtube, one of the guys walked into the house naked and they had to give him a robe to wear while they interviewed him. Another guy wanted to tie the girl up and they found rope, duct tape, a video camera, condoms, and I think Cocaine in his truck.

janky525

janky525

Emeryville, CA
April 2005

JUN 29, 2007 10:49 AM

This is why I dont watch television.

although, if dateline NBC is able to get sexual predators
to shoot themselves, I am in agreement. Lets do this more!
Great idea. Do it everywhere, and we can have a "self cleaning country".null

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

JUN 29, 2007 10:54 AM

So, they use amateurs to sidestep the entrapment restrictions and then it all gets thrown out because they use amateurs. At least the justice system works correctly on occasion.

lilcupcake

lilcupcake

Kitchener, ON
June 2006

JUN 29, 2007 11:02 AM

CatWorship said:
I hate this show! I mean how is talking to someone who is NOT a teenager a crime? How can they even prosecute these individuals? This is some serious future crime "Minority Report" shit here!



Having sexually explicit conversations with minors is far more than inappropriate, hell having conversations over the net with children is inappropriate if you are an adult. Then to actually go and meet the child with whom they had sexually explicit convos with....I am pretty sure dude isnt coming over just to say 'hi' Just remember, although the perverted justice ppl are not actual children or teenagers, the person meeting them does NOT know this, they assume they are meeting children or young teens.

I am gonna guess you don't have kids. You should watch this show if you havent and see some of the dialogue these men are saying to these 'CHILDREN.'

Deny

Deny

USA
August 2006

JUN 29, 2007 11:04 AM

A "Self-cleaning country"... I like that idea. Unfortunately, most criminals are fine with what they do until they get caught. Don't ever accept an apology as being an "I'm sorry for what I did".

I think it's sad that they're choosing not to prosecute the other "Innocent until proven guilty" dudes that DID show up and DIDN'T kill themselves.

I'm always amused by the ones that come back for a second catching.

minimalism

minimalism

Argentina
OLD SKOOL

JUN 29, 2007 11:17 AM

Colinism said:
You can watch these on youtube, one of the guys walked into the house naked and they had to give him a robe to wear while they interviewed him. Another guy wanted to tie the girl up and they found rope, duct tape, a video camera, condoms, and I think Cocaine in his truck.



Exactly what are you implying here? Doesn't everyone carry those thing around in their vehicles? surreal whatever

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

JUN 29, 2007 11:24 AM

CJane said:

CatWorship said:
I hate this show! I mean how is talking to someone who is NOT a teenager a crime? How can they even prosecute these individuals? This is some serious future crime "Minority Report" shit here!



Having sexually explicit conversations with minors is far more than inappropriate, hell having conversations over the net with children is inappropriate if you are an adult. Then to actually go and meet the child with whom they had sexually explicit convos with....I am pretty sure dude isnt coming over just to say 'hi' Just remember, although the perverted justice ppl are not actual children or teenagers, the person meeting them does NOT know this, they assume they are meeting children or young teens.

I am gonna guess you don't have kids. You should watch this show if you havent and see some of the dialogue these men are saying to these 'CHILDREN.'



Read the article again.

DeadBilly

DeadBilly

Burnt Cabins, PA
February 2004

JUN 29, 2007 11:38 AM

Trahern said:
Every time the cops around the world bust a group of pervs, a few of them kill themselves.



It's a shame more don't.

Waldo_Jeffers

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

JUN 29, 2007 11:39 AM

I'm all in favour of the state prosecuting paedophiles. However, it is better for concerned citizens to leave the detective work to the police.

If vigilante groups get involved it could be detrimental to the efforts of the state to apprehend and convict paedophiles for two reasons:

1. Broadcasting interviews with alleged paedophiles before they are brought to trial could allow their defence lawyers to argue that, due to pre-trial media exposure, it would be impossible for them to be given a fair trial thus giving the alleged paedophiles a kind of 'get out of jail free card'.
2. The method used to lure the alleged paedophiles could be interpreted as a form of entrapment which may result in acquittal of the alleged paedophiles.

If any person or group has evidence that an individual may be a paedophile, then instead organising a DIY 'sting' operation and inviting along a media circus, they should have a chat with the police.

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

JUN 29, 2007 11:39 AM

i always wondered why the suspects didn't just say that they knew they were really talking to an adult.

when police sting bartenders for serving underage drinkers, don't they have to use actual underage people?

Formus

Formus

Milwaukee, WI
May 2007

JUN 29, 2007 11:41 AM

CJane said:
Having sexually explicit conversations with minors is far more than inappropriate, hell having conversations over the net with children is inappropriate if you are an adult. Then to actually go and meet the child with whom they had sexually explicit convos with....I am pretty sure dude isnt coming over just to say 'hi' Just remember, although the perverted justice ppl are not actual children or teenagers, the person meeting them does NOT know this, they assume they are meeting children or young teens.

I am gonna guess you don't have kids. You should watch this show if you havent and see some of the dialogue these men are saying to these 'CHILDREN.'



The point is, they're not children. Coprophilia is a legitimate fetish wherein one partner will pretend to be a child for the other partner's sexual enjoyment. It's more than a little creepy, but it's perfectly legal. These pedophiles never once chatted with, nor agreed to meet with, an underage child. Therefore, this amounts to little more than online coprophilia, and is more than a little disturbing, especially considering these people aren't police officers and do this in their spare time. For fun.

Gerry_D

Gerry_D

Los Angeles, CA
May 2003

JUN 29, 2007 11:43 AM

the guy that shot himself was certainly very prepared. probably a former cub/boy/eagle scout, right?

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

JUN 29, 2007 11:43 AM


NBC uses a group called Perverted Justice to pose as underage kids and lure the pedophiles. It is a clever name because it has three meanings: First, that the justice system favors the perverted criminals. Second, that they are catching perverts and third, that the group is mostly made up of retards


Too funny.

Deny

Deny

USA
August 2006

JUN 29, 2007 11:47 AM

I love how it's considered inappropriate to catch child molestors near a school but, Pedophiles are allowed to LIVE next to one.

Let me rephrase that as... Convicted Pedophiles that are released from prison are allowed to live next to an Elementary School as long as they don't step onto school property.

It's some sort of deal with equality and fairness to them or something. I can't remember the exact story but, that's the gist of it.

Waldo_Jeffers

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

JUN 29, 2007 11:49 AM

Gerry_D said:
the guy that shot himself was certainly very prepared. probably a former cub/boy/eagle scout, right?



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