NEWS: NRA Loses Switzerland As A Blah, Blah, Blah Point

POLITICS: NRA Loses Switzerland As A Blah, Blah, Blah Point

Aside from the Second Amendment, nothing gets NRA members harder than the gun laws in the Switzerland. The government actually wants their citizens to have guns! Guns are available to any law-abiding applicant! In half of Switzerland people can get licensed to carry concealed weapons! There are an estimated 1.5 millions guns in Swiss homes. It is like NRA gun nirvana.

Jesus, are you as rock hard as I am?



What the guntards never want to tell you is that while guns are in many homes in Switzerland they have always tightly regulated these things called “bullets.” Ammunition is pretty important if you want to use your gun. That fact hasn’t stopped the NRA freaks from hailing Switzerland as the promised land of guns and bullets. But you better rub out your NRA hard on as soon as you can because it’s all coming to an end.

Yeah, a historic boner kill. Those behind the ammunition ban aren’t finished yet, as they plan on introducing an initiative to ban all military weapons in homes. The gun control bill will create a national gun registry and ban the use of personal automatic weapons. Why? Because 300 deaths a year are the result of firearms in homes and 33% of all suicides. Many deaths are a result of domestic disputes.

So, basically, the Swiss decided that having 300 people a year die was a good reason for gun control. We have about 30,000 people die a year. We win. If the number of domestic deaths and suicides drops, what will the NRA say then?

Gun control activists will never understand the positives v. the negatives of a citizen's right to firearms until our world resembles that of george orwell's '1984'

one little flaw in your sarcasm-gasm: the law only affects the storage of the ammunition for and the potential future household storage of military-grade, army-issued automatic rifles. nothing about any other type of personal firearms, from shotguns to handguns to regular rifles, be they of the semi-auto, bolt-action, or single shot variety. and that they can seize anything that could be used as a blunt instrument of pain.

oh, and that they're setting up a national gun registry, which isn't a bad thing.

there will still be guns to shoot your loved ones and friends with in domestic disputes, don't you worry. but i am incensed about one thing: they said nothing about trying to control, regulate, and limit the use of the #1 family-killer of choise, the kitchen knife!

I believe that extra gun control won't stop people from being dillholes and killing their family, it just means they'll find other ways to do it. Because people suck. At the same time, though, I think that giving people easy access to and training with military-grade weapons wasn't a good idea, as people are stupid.

And if they don't? I mean really dude Japan has almost 0 fireams and a suicide rate that beats ours hands down. And murder will happen no matter what be it with a gun or a knife or a club.

year males females
JAPAN 99 36.5 14.1

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 99 17.6 4.1

http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/suiciderates/en/

Must be all them Samurai swords that the Japanese are not allowed to have that they use to kill themselves.

Registration is an important step towards confiscation. They did it in England, and hey it solved absolutely nothing as the English crime rate continues to rise and more and more guns flood the country.

switzerland doesn't even have gum wrappers on the ground. if you cross the street in the wrong place or put your feet up on a park bench some random old swiss lady will lecture you. people behave there. people are batshit crazy in the US.

It would be helpful if you would define "guntard" for us so I'll know who to be pissed off at in the next two-minute hate.

Thanks.

You.

clearly gun control won't stop violence entirely, but the difference is that the good old kitchen knife has non-violent uses. banning every ordinary object that could kill someone would be absurd. severely limiting objects that have no other purpose, on the other hand, is a different matter.

explain to me what the NRA is losing over this again? i for one think this is awesome! when this law fails miserably at directly reducing crime or suicide rates in Switzerland, it will give the NRA even more evidence to suggest that gun control has no positive effect on anything

thats odd? none of the tens of thousands of rounds i have fired in my life were acts of violence against anything but paper targets.

Pretty much. We're talking about completely different cultures here; there are just so many things wrong with America that taking away one of the many options for killing a person is likely to do no good.

I'm sure if we banned everything that could potentially be used as a weapon, murders by strangulation would skyrocket.

And the problem is that a large proportion of SG is urban, and doesn't see guns except in movies, so the natural tendency to stereotype guns and gun owners takes place, and combined with the tendency to defend only the rights you actually use, it makes for gun control arguments have a largely stacked deck.

Bullshit.

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I feel to see how that counters the point that the only innate purpose of a gun is to kill.

Im just glad that being safer is simply a matter of giving up all your rights!

Thank god for Bush enacting the patriot act, amirite?

I think the out of control nature of our current government is a pretty good argument for arming yourself, and for us maintaining the right to arm ourselves.

Or to threaten to kill.

Or to kill animals, which are overpopulated, thus preventing death by disease and starvation.

Or to kill animals for food. Haven't you heard? They're delicious!

Intent means nothing. Certain tools are dangerous and need to be handled with respect. Guns are one of them.

Be sure and let me know when they start confiscating everyone's cars.

Yeah, because you know if you have a gun you can totally protect yourself from government armed forces.

What if they started registering your religion? Would that be ok too?

Yes. Criminals do love the imminent threat of killing via firearms. No disagreement there.

Or to poach animals, which are endangered! Thus damaging or eco system indefinably and beyond repair.

I actually went both deer and pheasant hunting last fall and feasted quite nicely. I am, after all, from the Midwest. However I rather doubt you or most of the people here who claim hunting as a natural defense for firearms participate that often in said activity. Note: I have little issue with sports rifles/shotguns. I rally for reformed laws, not firearm prohibition.

Intent means everything. And what do we do once the masses prove they can't administer the proper respect? For firearms or human life?

Humorously enough, my car was confiscated and towed within sight distance of my house because my parents forgot to register it for this year.

lol 120 dollar towing fee MY HOUSE IS RIGHT FUCKING THERE YOU FUCKING DICKLESS PIG

And then 120 dollar ticket to me! Even though it is my mom's car, not mine.

(Glee!).

That's neither here nor there though.

Registering guns is a good, good thing. It has nothing to do with confiscation, but is a great way to find out who owns the type of gun that killed a person. Not being a murderer myself, this does not trouble me much.

First the Libertarians, then the geeks, now the guntards. You're on a roll this week.

Thank you for stating this. This seems so blatantly obvious to myself, and to what I assume are logical thinking humans, but yet people still rally around firearms as protection from our "crazy government." What kind of arsenal are these people packing that they feel they can ward off our government and rally some sort of coup d'état?

You do realize that you are the masses, right?

I agree with you, but just consider this idea.

Government issues marshal law in city

City says "Fuck no"

Government moves into city

All of city's citizens are armed

Government realizes 20,000 troops cannot hold city of 2 million armed militia

That would be the best case scenario for validating armed militia I guess. Either that or you can replace 'government' with 'invading forces' or something.