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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

JUN 23, 2007 02:44 PM



As a nation we are practically forcing Bush and Cheney to attack Iran because of our relentless dislike of the administration. If we liked them they might actually listen to us, but we don’t, so they won’t. Bush and Cheney both know that if they build up false reasons to attack Iran, then follow through; Bush will get a bump in the polls. That is how America works.

Currently all signs point to an attack on Iran. First of all, there is a man named Dick Cheney who seems to be completely insane. His idea of diplomacy is to find out where you live, drive over to your house and anally rape you. Harpers has given us a delightful list of conclusions Cheney has already reached regarding Iran.

Diplomacy rarely works, and certainly won’t work with a nation like Iran.

Sanctions are worthless – why after all, when I ran Halliburton, we could always find ways to get around them and have profitable dealings with Iran.

Iran is moving ahead with its plans to emerge as a nuclear weapons policy, is running far ahead of schedule, and will certainly achieve its objectives far ahead of the timeline that those numbskulls over at the National Intelligence Council have worked up.

The only solution we can count on is a military solution.

Because of the fickleness of the American electorate, the next government will not have the resolve and will to use military force that are the great strength of America under Bush, which counsels in favor of action now.

The current hostage crisis (involving five Americans held by Tehran and five Iranians held by Washington) will furnish a perfectly decent causus bellum if managed properly, fed and fanned.


The administration is currently preparing for a war with Iran. Right now the US has two carrier strike groups in the Persian Gulf. In a day or two they will be joined by a third carrier strike group, then next week, a fourth carrier strike group will arrive. Which means, in the Red Sea we will have…

Four aircraft carriers, 12-16 destroyers, 4-8 submarines, 4-8 AEGIS cruisers, and over 200 strike aircraft. The world has not witnessed such a mustering of naval might since… the invasion of Iraq.


Ah, the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

As far as land preparations, no one knows. But we do know that before Rumsfeld (neo-con) left office, he developed bases in countries surrounding Iran. We can now attack Iran from every direction from "lilypads."

Next up, the hostages. Yes, the hostages. The US has been holding 5 Iranian diplomats hostage since January. They were invited into Iraq by the Iraqi government, and then the US stormed their compound and seized them. The Irbil five are said to be members of the elite Quds Force, an arm of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard. Recently Condoleezza Rice attempted to have the men released, but Cheney put a stop to her reasonable nonsense.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice went into the meeting Tuesday advising that the men be freed because they are no longer useful, but after a review of options she went along with the consensus, U.S. officials say. Vice President Cheney's office made the firmest case for keeping them.


In response, neo-cons claim Iran began taking “hostages.” The information is not easy to find, unless you go to neo-con sites like The Heritage Foundation.

In recent months, Iran's hostile regime has again resorted to one of its favorite tactics: taking hostages to advance its aggressive foreign policy.


Neo-cons claim Iran has taken four hostages of dual citizenship, and possibly a fifth. The fifth hostage is a little murky because some believe the ex-FBI agent converted to Islam and moved to an island off Iran. Expect the “hostage crisis” to be ramped up on Fox News and in the pages of the Wall Street Journal.

Here is a video of Norman Podhoretz making the case for attacking Iran. Seem eerily familiar? The build up to Iraq, maybe?



Iran will also be labeled as the big problem in the Middle East. This will, of course, distract from the fact that the US is the biggest problem in the Middle East, with all of our invading and whatnot. Iran will be accused of stirring up animosity throughout the region and spreading their ideology. The fact that this is exactly what the US is doing will be largely ignored. The accusation that Iran is arming militias in Iraq and Afghanistan will be heard ad nauseam. How dare they get involved while their enemy attempts to secure the countries on their Eastern and Western borders! Overall, the case will be made that Iran is becoming too powerful in the Middle East, the place where the country resides – and we do not.

And don’t forget Iran’s nuclear program. Yawn. Of course Iran is pursuing nuclear energy. How else could they possibly stop the US from invading? Iraq was not pursuing nuclear weapons but the case was made that they were, meanwhile North Korea was pursuing nuclear weapons and was left alone. Not hard to figure out which path to follow if you are an enemy of the US. The international estimate of when Iran will get nuclear weapons is longer that the Cheney estimate. Who has a history of being correct when it comes to weapons of mass destruction? I’ll give you a hint: The correct party is not insane.

No one seems to ever talk about the fact that Iran will never use nuclear weapons. They would be immediately wiped off the map. It would be suicide and people in power are not big on suicide. The rulers of Iran, no matter how religious they are, are living a life of luxury and will not give it up anytime soon. Sanctions worked against Iraq and they will work against Iran as well. Oh, and Iran does not have a missile capable of reaching Europe or the US, which sort of diminishes the threat. But by the end of the year America should be scared shitless about Iran’s future nuclear attack on the most powerful country on the planet.

Enjoy the war!

Trauma

Trauma

San Quentin, CA
April 2005

JUN 24, 2007 09:08 AM

World War III is coming...

poptard

poptard

United Kingdom
November 2003

JUN 24, 2007 09:11 AM

i knew this was coming a long time ago,

its bloddy obvious, i'd be more surprised if we didn't go to war

Untimely

Untimely

Chicago, IL
January 2007

JUN 24, 2007 09:16 AM


Diplomacy rarely works, and certainly won't work with a nation like Iran.



Well, sure, it's difficult when you've had no diplomatic relations with a country for years.

Snottlebocket

Snottlebocket

Netherlands
March 2004

JUN 24, 2007 09:25 AM

Trauma said:
World War III is coming...



If it is, it's going to be pretty interesting when it's time to pick sides.

pariah002

pariah002

Yugoslavia
July 2003

JUN 24, 2007 09:27 AM

Just what we need. Fucking great.
Those clowns really have a hard on for the middle east.
Fuck it, why take care of the ills in America, lets just keep wars in other places going to blow our money, kill a lot of people and just make the world even more fucked than it already is.
This makes my head hurt. puke

Snottlebocket

Snottlebocket

Netherlands
March 2004

JUN 24, 2007 09:41 AM

pariah002 said:
Just what we need. Fucking great.
Those clowns really have a hard on for the middle east.
Fuck it, why take care of the ills in America, lets just keep wars in other places going to blow our money, kill a lot of people and just make the world even more fucked than it already is.
This makes my head hurt. puke



sssh, don't draw their attention to us.

defaultx

defaultx

I'm lost
February 2006

JUN 24, 2007 09:41 AM

The thing should of been nipped in the bud 28yrs ago.

bombs away!

Omega_Blue

Omega_Blue

Antelope, CA
June 2007

JUN 24, 2007 09:45 AM

War is possible, but I am not sure if it would ever be declared; I once heard that if we were to attack Iran, that we would need 500,000-1,000,000 ground forces, this is not possible unless there is a draft...which I doubt will be reinstated any time soon.

OpticNerve

OpticNerve

Arlington, MA
November 2003

JUN 24, 2007 09:47 AM

Well, maybe getting turned down for the job in San Francisco wasn't such a bad thing for me. :inevitableterroristtarget:

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

JUN 24, 2007 09:48 AM

They couldn't even get a surge big enough to do a "clear, hold, build" in Baghdad. The US has been trying to live in Baghdad without attempting to clear the insurgents out of town. They are only trying to clear a part of of the city at this point.

I don't see how they can get congress to go along with more troops for a whole new war. Maybe that's why the Navy and Air Force is a big deal to the Iran War and then what? We bomb and then never go in?

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

JUN 24, 2007 09:51 AM

Omega_Blue said:
War is possible, but I am not sure if it would ever be declared; I once heard that if we were to attack Iran, that we would need 500,000-1,000,000 ground forces, this is not possible unless there is a draft...which I doubt will be reinstated any time soon.



It won't be a ground invasion, it will be done with air strikes.

I do wonder what country in the middle east would allow the US to stage air strikes from air bases in their countries though. They face the threat of retaliation from Iran for allowing the US to attack them.

Plus the fact that this WILL make things much worse in Iraq for all parties involved.

American_Psycho

American_Psycho

Anaheim, CA
March 2007

JUN 24, 2007 10:08 AM

Hummm... I might want to get a piece of this wink

NikkiIs

NikkiIs

Drexel, MO
April 2005

JUN 24, 2007 10:15 AM

Maybe I am just looking at this the wrong way but...

Iran's major ally is Russia. Rusia is asking us nicely to stay out of Iran.

The Cheney/Bush Administration is pushing Kosovo to declare Independence against the wiser counsel of the EU and NATO. Russia is against an Independent Kosovo.

All of our current actions seem to be leading up to a direct confrontation with Russia. I am fairly certain that at some point an invasion of Iran, or our support of Kosovo, will have us facing Russian troops.

Maybe Cheney needs to take his meds and realize that the Cold War is over









Snottlebocket

Snottlebocket

Netherlands
March 2004

JUN 24, 2007 10:18 AM

NikkiIs said:
Maybe I am just looking at this the wrong way but...

Iran's major ally is Russia. Rusia is asking us nicely to stay out of Iran.

The Cheney/Bush Administration is pushing Kosovo to declare Independence against the wiser counsel of the EU and NATO. Russia is against an Independent Kosovo.

All of our current actions seem to be leading up to a direct confrontation with Russia. I am fairly certain that at some point an invasion of Iran, or our support of Kosovo, will have us facing Russian troops.

Maybe Cheney needs to take his meds and realize that the Cold War is over



Last time we were in Russia their troops were selling every bit of gear they had issued to them to tourists at the trainstation, in order to buy food for their family since the state hadn't paid them in ages.

Friend of mine came away with some really nice night vision goggles.

Rin

Rin

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

JUN 24, 2007 10:19 AM

KUNGFOO said:

Omega_Blue said:
War is possible, but I am not sure if it would ever be declared; I once heard that if we were to attack Iran, that we would need 500,000-1,000,000 ground forces, this is not possible unless there is a draft...which I doubt will be reinstated any time soon.



It won't be a ground invasion, it will be done with air strikes.




yeah, and they just replaced the leader of the whole u.s. forces (pardon me for my lack of exact terminology) with a navy guy. hrrrrm! suspect!

my first hope is that they wouldn't attack iran but since that seems imminent, that they won't do it to soon...my dude and i have an agreement that when they attack iran, we will move back to canada...and i am digging living in california!

Trahern

Trahern

United Kingdom
March 2003

JUN 24, 2007 10:42 AM

I don't care for the ultra-conservativeness of Iran, but the Iranians aren't crazy. They love their children too, as Sting would say.

Is there no way that the American people can stop this?

aldoushuxley

aldoushuxley

USA
November 2005

JUN 24, 2007 10:44 AM

Well looks I'll have more work to do, maybe I am a sick bastard but I kind of view wars as job security. Ha ha ha all you guy's are going to get drafted and then you'll see how fun it is to serve your country. Really though I do not have much to worry about with this it will not change my life at all. At most after mt rapidly approaching deployment I will get another one to Iran. It is no big deal to me I love to travel. Aside from the way it will affect me, it will cost us way to much money, kiss social security and well fare goodbye guys.

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

I'm lost
November 2003

JUN 24, 2007 11:02 AM

It's all about Bush's legacy. The only way to ensure that the invaision of Iraq is no longer the biggest political and military disaster in US history is to invade Iran.

Mockingbird

Mockingbird

Chicago, IL
January 2006

JUN 24, 2007 11:03 AM

I'm not entirely sure Bush would start a war what with only about a year left in office. Not that he necessarily runs by that schedule, but it seems that lately he is trying to not cause a fuss. Yes, with the veto of the stem cell research bill again, we can see he has an agenda he's following. Nonetheless... I would hope it didn't come to it. Maybe I'm just being optimistic.

WyattForMayor

WyattForMayor

Gilbert, AZ
October 2003

JUN 24, 2007 11:13 AM

And I'm sure Norman Podhoretz being an EXTREME Zionist has NOTHING to do with his decision....

freshprncebelair

freshprncebelair

Ellicott City, MD
June 2004

JUN 24, 2007 11:13 AM

KUNGFOO said:

Omega_Blue said:
War is possible, but I am not sure if it would ever be declared; I once heard that if we were to attack Iran, that we would need 500,000-1,000,000 ground forces, this is not possible unless there is a draft...which I doubt will be reinstated any time soon.



It won't be a ground invasion, it will be done with air strikes.

I do wonder what country in the middle east would allow the US to stage air strikes from air bases in their countries though. They face the threat of retaliation from Iran for allowing the US to attack them.

Plus the fact that this WILL make things much worse in Iraq for all parties involved.



You can't take ground with air strikes.

The only thing you can do with air strikes is devastate infrastructure, and given the fact that guerrilla warfare isn't reliant on infrastructure, and that we aren't willing to carpet bomb entire cities, air strikes aren't going to do much at all.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

JUN 24, 2007 11:15 AM

aldoushuxley said:
Well looks I'll have more work to do, maybe I am a sick bastard but I kind of view wars as job security. Ha ha ha all you guy's are going to get drafted and then you'll see how fun it is to serve your country. Really though I do not have... blah, blah, blah...

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much to worry about with this it will not change my life at all. At most after mt rapidly approaching deployment I will get another one to Iran. It is no big deal to me I love to travel. Aside from the way it will affect me, it will cost us way to much money, kiss social security and well fare goodbye guys.



Lowered standards for military recruitment at work here.

No1ne

No1ne

Chattanooga, TN
May 2006

JUN 24, 2007 11:17 AM

i just got out of the army and i would love NOT to be called back to goto war for my 3rd time.... maybe it's the suits.....that must be it! every president wares the same suit so therefore thats what must be the problem there suits radiate stupidity!!! gah don't get me started.....

shapeshifter23

shapeshifter23

San Francisco, CA
September 2005

JUN 24, 2007 11:18 AM

I have blown a hole in time with a firecracker. Let others step through. Into what bigger and bigger firecrackers? Better weapons lead to better and better weapons, until the earth is a grenade with the fuse burning.

I remember a dream of my childhood. I am in a beautiful garden. As I reach out to touch the flowers they wither under my hands. A nightmare feeling of foreboding and desolation comes over me as a great mushroom-shaped cloud darkens the earth. A few may get through the gate in time. Like Spain, I am bound to the past.

- William S. Burroughs, "Cities Of The Red Night"

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