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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

JUN 19, 2007 10:20 PM



I enjoy the show 24. I enjoy violence and things blowing up and torture. Mainly I enjoy those things on television because they are not real. If Jack Bauer was torturing and killing his own brother in my living room I would probably be very uncomfortable. I may even vomit. I strongly believe in my heart that Jack Bauer is not real and that no real human being could do the things Jack does.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, however, seems to think Jack Bauer is real. And he kind of has a man crush on Jack. Based on what happened in Canada this week, I think we can conclude that Scalia wants to be inside Jack Bauer, or more probably, wants Jack to be inside him, thrusting like an animal.

Scalia was at a legal conference in Ottawa during which a panel of judges was discussed torture and terrorism law. A Canadian judge made the mistake of saying this:

"Thankfully, security agencies in all our countries do not subscribe to the mantra 'What would Jack Bauer do?'


Well, you don’t talk about Scalia’s fantasy lover that way. Antonin lost his fucking mind.

"Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives," Judge Scalia said. Then, recalling Season 2, where the agent's rough interrogation tactics saved California from a terrorist nuke, the Supreme Court judge etched a line in the sand.

"Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" Judge Scalia challenged his fellow judges. "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so.

"So the question is really whether we believe in these absolutes. And ought we believe in these absolutes."


Um, absolutes? Like Jack Bauer is absolutely not real? Like Antonin Scalia is an absolute nut job?

The Canadian judge who started the entire lunatic festival off with his slight comment has dealt with terrorists in his courtroom. He had a different opinion that Scalia.

Judge Mosley told the panel that rights-respecting governments can't take part in torture or encourage it in any way. "The agents of the state, and the agents of the Canadian state, under the Criminal Code, are very much subject to severe criminal sanction if they would engage in torture," he said.


Scalia was not down with that idea. I mean, Jesus, he has seen this shit go down ON TELEVISION. He knows counterterrorism agents should not be constrained by laws. Most of the judges in the room agreed that confessions made during torture carry little weight because they might be false and are almost never accepted into evidence. But Scalia was not talking about the court, he was talking about being out on the streets, taking down the bad guys with minutes to spare. He wants agents to have the freedom to get the job done and thwart attacks.

"I don't care about holding people. I really don't," Judge Scalia said.

Even if a real terrorist who suffered mistreatment is released because of complaints of abuse, Judge Scalia said, the interruption to the terrorist's plot would have ensured "in Los Angeles everyone is safe." During a break from the panel, Judge Scalia specifically mentioned the segment in Season 2 when Jack Bauer finally figures out how to break the die-hard terrorist intent on nuking L.A. The real genius, the judge said, is that this is primarily done with mental leverage. "There's a great scene where he told a guy that he was going to have his family killed," Judge Scalia said. "They had it on closed circuit television - and it was all staged. ... They really didn't kill the family."


Um. Okay. You’re a Supreme Court Justice, huh? I feel good about the direction of our country right now. But season 2 was one of the best seasons, so he’s not all that wrong.

pitydafoo

pitydafoo

Compton, CA
December 2006

JUN 20, 2007 09:05 AM

Scalia is a supreme douchebag.

triskadekafobic

triskadekafobic

Germany
April 2006

JUN 20, 2007 09:07 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

oh wait, this guy is a supreme court justice, nvm.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

JUN 20, 2007 09:07 AM

Thanks FTR. Great article. That truely made me feel a little sick.

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

JUN 20, 2007 09:10 AM

i think the next attorney who gives oral argument before SCOTUS should start citing tv shows as binding precedent.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 20, 2007 09:14 AM

FearTheReaper said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
I enjoy the show 24. I enjoy violence and things blowing up and torture. Mainly I enjoy those things on television because they are not real. If Jack Bauer was torturing and killing his own brother in my living room I would probably be very uncomfortable. I may even vomit. I strongly believe in my heart that Jack Bauer is not real and that no real human being could do the things Jack does.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, however, seems to think Jack Bauer is real. And he kind of has a man crush on Jack. Based on what happened in Canada this week, I think we can conclude that Scalia wants to be inside Jack Bauer, or more probably, wants Jack to be inside him, thrusting like an animal.

Scalia was at a legal conference in Ottawa during which a panel of judges was discussed torture and terrorism law. A Canadian judge made the mistake of saying this:


"Thankfully, security agencies in all our countries do not subscribe to the mantra 'What would Jack Bauer do?'


Well, you don%u2019t talk about Scalia%u2019s fantasy lover that way. Antonin lost his fucking mind.


"Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives," Judge Scalia said. Then, recalling Season 2, where the agent's rough interrogation tactics saved California from a terrorist nuke, the Supreme Court judge etched a line in the sand.

"Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" Judge Scalia challenged his fellow judges. "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so.

"So the question is really whether we believe in these absolutes. And ought we believe in these absolutes."


Um, absolutes? Like Jack Bauer is absolutely not real? Like Antonin Scalia is an absolute nut job?

The Canadian judge who started the entire lunatic festival off with his slight comment has dealt with terrorists in his courtroom. He had a different opinion that Scalia.


Judge Mosley told the panel that rights-respecting governments can't take part in torture or encourage it in any way. "The agents of the state, and the agents of the Canadian state, under the Criminal Code, are very much subject to severe criminal sanction if they would engage in torture," he said.


Scalia was not down with that idea. I mean, Jesus, he has seen this shit go down ON TELEVISION. He knows counterterrorism agents should not be constrained by laws. Most of the judges in the room agreed that confessions made during torture carry little weight because they might be false and are almost never accepted into evidence. But Scalia was not talking about the court, he was talking about being out on the streets, taking down the bad guys with minutes to spare. He wants agents to have the freedom to get the job done and thwart attacks.


"I don't care about holding people. I really don't," Judge Scalia said.

Even if a real terrorist who suffered mistreatment is released because of complaints of abuse, Judge Scalia said, the interruption to the terrorist's plot would have ensured "in Los Angeles everyone is safe." During a break from the panel, Judge Scalia specifically mentioned the segment in Season 2 when Jack Bauer finally figures out how to break the die-hard terrorist intent on nuking L.A. The real genius, the judge said, is that this is primarily done with mental leverage. "There's a great scene where he told a guy that he was going to have his family killed," Judge Scalia said. "They had it on closed circuit television - and it was all staged. ... They really didn't kill the family."


Um. Okay. You%u2019re a Supreme Court Justice, huh? I feel good about the direction of our country right now. But season 2 was one of the best seasons, so he%u2019s not all that wrong.


This story needs a link or two.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 20, 2007 09:28 AM

Zarth said:

FearTheReaper said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
I enjoy the show 24. I enjoy violence and things blowing up and torture. Mainly I enjoy those things on television because they are not real. If Jack Bauer was torturing and killing his own brother in my living room I would probably be very uncomfortable. I may even vomit. I strongly believe in my heart that Jack Bauer is not real and that no real human being could do the things Jack does.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, however, seems to think Jack Bauer is real. And he kind of has a man crush on Jack. Based on what happened in Canada this week, I think we can conclude that Scalia wants to be inside Jack Bauer, or more probably, wants Jack to be inside him, thrusting like an animal.

Scalia was at a legal conference in Ottawa during which a panel of judges was discussed torture and terrorism law. A Canadian judge made the mistake of saying this:


"Thankfully, security agencies in all our countries do not subscribe to the mantra 'What would Jack Bauer do?'


Well, you don't talk about Scalia's fantasy lover that way. Antonin lost his fucking mind.


"Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives," Judge Scalia said. Then, recalling Season 2, where the agent's rough interrogation tactics saved California from a terrorist nuke, the Supreme Court judge etched a line in the sand.

"Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" Judge Scalia challenged his fellow judges. "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so.

"So the question is really whether we believe in these absolutes. And ought we believe in these absolutes."


Um, absolutes? Like Jack Bauer is absolutely not real? Like Antonin Scalia is an absolute nut job?

The Canadian judge who started the entire lunatic festival off with his slight comment has dealt with terrorists in his courtroom. He had a different opinion that Scalia.


Judge Mosley told the panel that rights-respecting governments can't take part in torture or encourage it in any way. "The agents of the state, and the agents of the Canadian state, under the Criminal Code, are very much subject to severe criminal sanction if they would engage in torture," he said.


Scalia was not down with that idea. I mean, Jesus, he has seen this shit go down ON TELEVISION. He knows counterterrorism agents should not be constrained by laws. Most of the judges in the room agreed that confessions made during torture carry little weight because they might be false and are almost never accepted into evidence. But Scalia was not talking about the court, he was talking about being out on the streets, taking down the bad guys with minutes to spare. He wants agents to have the freedom to get the job done and thwart attacks.


"I don't care about holding people. I really don't," Judge Scalia said.

Even if a real terrorist who suffered mistreatment is released because of complaints of abuse, Judge Scalia said, the interruption to the terrorist's plot would have ensured "in Los Angeles everyone is safe." During a break from the panel, Judge Scalia specifically mentioned the segment in Season 2 when Jack Bauer finally figures out how to break the die-hard terrorist intent on nuking L.A. The real genius, the judge said, is that this is primarily done with mental leverage. "There's a great scene where he told a guy that he was going to have his family killed," Judge Scalia said. "They had it on closed circuit television - and it was all staged. ... They really didn't kill the family."


Um. Okay. You're a Supreme Court Justice, huh? I feel good about the direction of our country right now. But season 2 was one of the best seasons, so he's not all that wrong.


This story needs a link or two.


Okay, fine, I'll do it myself.

And here.

Now for the big question - how did a clueless fuckwit like Scalia become one of the most powerful men in the American judicial system?

aldoushuxley

aldoushuxley

USA
November 2005

JUN 20, 2007 09:29 AM

I gotta say your articles never cease to amaze or entertain me. biggrin

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

JUN 20, 2007 09:56 AM

Zarth said:

This story needs a link or two.



Sorry. Was a bit out of it (hungoveer) when i wrote this one.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

JUN 20, 2007 09:58 AM

FearTheReaper said:

Zarth said:
This story needs a link or two.


Sorry. Was a bit out of it (hungoveer) when i wrote this one.


'Scool. The writing was first rate, anyway. "Thrusting like an animal" is the kind of prose that leaves a scar.

wenis

wenis

San Francisco, CA
July 2006

JUN 20, 2007 10:22 AM

scalia and the canadian judge have a hard time discerning their real lives from there imdb accounts.
david palmer for president? tongue

Tea

Tea

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

JUN 20, 2007 10:22 AM

that is hilariously worrisome.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

JUN 20, 2007 10:26 AM

Jesus H. fucking christ on a crutch.

I have an idea. In the next season, let's write Jack Bauer taking down Scalia.

thatoneguy23

thatoneguy23

Ewa Beach, HI
October 2005

JUN 20, 2007 10:26 AM

Zarth said:

Zarth said:

FearTheReaper said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
I enjoy the show 24. I enjoy violence and things blowing up and torture. Mainly I enjoy those things on television because they are not real. If Jack Bauer was torturing and killing his own brother in my living room I would probably be very uncomfortable. I may even vomit. I strongly believe in my heart that Jack Bauer is not real and that no real human being could do the things Jack does.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, however, seems to think Jack Bauer is real. And he kind of has a man crush on Jack. Based on what happened in Canada this week, I think we can conclude that Scalia wants to be inside Jack Bauer, or more probably, wants Jack to be inside him, thrusting like an animal.

Scalia was at a legal conference in Ottawa during which a panel of judges was discussed torture and terrorism law. A Canadian judge made the mistake of saying this:


"Thankfully, security agencies in all our countries do not subscribe to the mantra 'What would Jack Bauer do?'


Well, you don't talk about Scalia's fantasy lover that way. Antonin lost his fucking mind.


"Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives," Judge Scalia said. Then, recalling Season 2, where the agent's rough interrogation tactics saved California from a terrorist nuke, the Supreme Court judge etched a line in the sand.

"Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" Judge Scalia challenged his fellow judges. "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so.

"So the question is really whether we believe in these absolutes. And ought we believe in these absolutes."


Um, absolutes? Like Jack Bauer is absolutely not real? Like Antonin Scalia is an absolute nut job?

The Canadian judge who started the entire lunatic festival off with his slight comment has dealt with terrorists in his courtroom. He had a different opinion that Scalia.


Judge Mosley told the panel that rights-respecting governments can't take part in torture or encourage it in any way. "The agents of the state, and the agents of the Canadian state, under the Criminal Code, are very much subject to severe criminal sanction if they would engage in torture," he said.


Scalia was not down with that idea. I mean, Jesus, he has seen this shit go down ON TELEVISION. He knows counterterrorism agents should not be constrained by laws. Most of the judges in the room agreed that confessions made during torture carry little weight because they might be false and are almost never accepted into evidence. But Scalia was not talking about the court, he was talking about being out on the streets, taking down the bad guys with minutes to spare. He wants agents to have the freedom to get the job done and thwart attacks.


"I don't care about holding people. I really don't," Judge Scalia said.

Even if a real terrorist who suffered mistreatment is released because of complaints of abuse, Judge Scalia said, the interruption to the terrorist's plot would have ensured "in Los Angeles everyone is safe." During a break from the panel, Judge Scalia specifically mentioned the segment in Season 2 when Jack Bauer finally figures out how to break the die-hard terrorist intent on nuking L.A. The real genius, the judge said, is that this is primarily done with mental leverage. "There's a great scene where he told a guy that he was going to have his family killed," Judge Scalia said. "They had it on closed circuit television - and it was all staged. ... They really didn't kill the family."


Um. Okay. You're a Supreme Court Justice, huh? I feel good about the direction of our country right now. But season 2 was one of the best seasons, so he's not all that wrong.


This story needs a link or two.


Okay, fine, I'll do it myself.

And here.

Now for the big question - how did a clueless fuckwit like Scalia become one of the most powerful men in the American judicial system?



Reagan put him into office. The sad part is he was fully approved by a vote of 98-0 by the Senate. Yes, that is right he recieved 100% approval by the Senate (with 2 no shows).

Those are the facts, as to how did he do it? Well how did Bush do it... he pretended to be a moderate (a little bit right of center moderate, but still one nonetheless) and then showed his true colors later on.

More or less this man is a religious zealot on a lot of issues... hes made some pretty damning calls in the past. He's a very vocal conservative and spends time with the likes of Cheney.

He proved in Hamdi v. Rumfeld that he supports American rights when it comes to due process in procedure, instead of simple detention. At the same time though, he has made a rather firm stance that constitutional rights ONLY cover American citizens, not foriegn nationals (enemy combatants). So for him to support this... welp not a huge surprise.

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

JUN 20, 2007 10:26 AM

wenis said:
scalia and the canadian judge have a hard time discerning their real lives from there imdb accounts.
david palmer for president? tongue



josiah bartlet for pres.

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

JUN 20, 2007 10:36 AM

Just when you thought Canadians couldn't look down on you any more than they already did.

elysianfielder

elysianfielder

Los Angeles, CA
March 2003

JUN 20, 2007 10:36 AM

Great article.

There's more to the creepy relationship between "24" and the federal government. The first link below is a New Yorker article on the extreme right-wing politics of Joel Surnow, the show's producer, and his friendly rapport with Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, and Tony Snow, who've all met with Surnow and are big fans of the show.

The second link, from Democracy Now, tells about how the Dean of West Point, Brigadier General Patrick Finnegan, met with 24's producer to plead with him NOT TO SHOW SO MUCH FUCKING GOVERNMENT-SANCTIONED TORTURE, because it's actually interfering with the Army's attempts to teach their cadets not to use torture.

Jesus Christ. We're fucked. What's next? Justice Alito saying it's okay for the White House to destroy all its email communication because on Season 2 of The Sopranos, he saw Tony burn an incriminating piece of paper?

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/02/19/070219fa_fact_mayer

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/22/1448252

d20

d20

San Francisco, CA
September 2003

JUN 20, 2007 10:40 AM

NickFaust said:
Jesus H. fucking christ on a crutch.

I have an idea. In the next season, let's write Jack Bauer taking down Scalia.



i think that might actually cause a singularity.

mgcchkn

mgcchkn

Bakersfield, CA
October 2005

JUN 20, 2007 11:48 AM

Jack Bauer is my hero tongue

wenis

wenis

San Francisco, CA
July 2006

JUN 20, 2007 11:50 AM

yourfashionwar said:

wenis said:
scalia and the canadian judge have a hard time discerning their real lives from there imdb accounts.
david palmer for president? tongue



josiah bartlet for pres.




palmer>bartlet

guerillasphere

guerillasphere

San Francisco, CA
March 2006

JUN 20, 2007 12:04 PM

Tea said:
that is hilariously worrisome.



Exactly. We were cracking up in my office when we saw this, but then everyone was genuinely concerned.

Squire

Squire

I'm lost
November 2003

JUN 20, 2007 12:17 PM


"So the question is really whether we believe in these absolutes. And ought we believe in these absolutes."



Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes.

Greybeard

Greybeard

Los Angeles, CA
December 2006

JUN 20, 2007 12:27 PM

Isn't the inability to distinguish between reality and fantasy a symptom of schizophrenia?

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

JUN 20, 2007 01:17 PM

I have John Roberts' Friend Code. We firmly believe Animal Crossing is real.

paperpterodactyl

paperpterodactyl

Pittsburgh, PA
July 2006

JUN 20, 2007 01:51 PM

I'm not sure is this is funnier or scarier.

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