In DOG we trust...

Yeah, so if you love Dog the Bounty Hunter like I do, you know the story about how the Mexican government is trying to bring them back and prosecute Dog, Tim, and Leland for taking Andrew Luster back to the U.S. after he had jumped bail in California for 86 counts of rape. (this guy is the Max Factor heir, if you didn't know)
ANYWAY there is a petition going on Dog's site to try to raise awareness and get the government to reconsider these ridiculous charges.

http://www.xkastclients.com/dog2/petition/

If he's so big on law enforcement maybe he should try obeying the laws ?
He knew bounty hunting was a crime in Mexico, he should go back and face the music.

Sometimes it's necessary to break the law in order to do what's right. In this case, the right course of action was to apprehend a convicted serial rapist before he could run again.

Now, if someone can prove to me that they hand plenty of time to alert the Mexican police, and that the Mexican police would actually do something about it, I'll consider changing my tune.

For that matter, why don't we all just summarily execute people we see committing a crime?

You know ? It's not like it was a little crime he was commiting either. Going into a foriegn country to kidnap someone is a HUGE crime. In our own country, if I remember correctly, thats a mandatory 25 year sentence. Dogshit knew that. He's as much a criminal as anyone else. Spare me the Robinhood bullshit.

Still... 85 counts of rape? What a cunt.

I thought he didn't know it was a crime, I'm sure he was just following lead after lead and it ended him up in Mexico. He was so focused on capturing that bastard that's all he could see. It's not like HE raped and video taped 85 women, fled the country and was living the good life. So the moral of this story is, you rape, kill, kidnap, whatever. Long as you flee the country while you're on bail, you're free and clear!!
Well, you'd probably have to go to either Mexico or Canada, because they usually take your passport when you're a flight risk. So plan your escape carefully after you commit heinous crimes!

If I remember correctly, Tim spotted him in a bar or restaurant, after a few sightings they couldn't catch him. I think they were afraid they'd lose him if they didn't grab him then. The guy is fucking sly, obviously. He was probably at the bar to pick up his next victim.

And really, why hasn't Law and Order SVU done a "ripped from the headlines" episode on this?

If someone could prove to me that they DIDN"T have any time to alert any authorities and that the Mexican or American police would have actually done nothing, and I'd consider changing my tune.

To be honest, If you're a fan you probably know more than I do, but I find that a little hard to believe. It is his job. I believe he thought it was worth the risk for a million bucks (the reward money), and because that was his primary motivation, not the apprehension, he would have never told the authorities.
He could give two shits about what the man did. The only reason he went after Andrew Luster was because he was a famous high ticket reward.
I'm no fan of rapists either but I wouldn't commit a felony in a foreign country to apprehend one. Thats what police are for. We have special treaties in place to ensure that fugitives are returned. If Dog had a crew of guys watching him and tracking him at some bar it seems a very easy thing to keep an eye on him until the authorities arrive. Why couldn't they even follow him to his place ? From what I briefly read the Mexican police even gave him an opportunity to surrend the guy but he refused because he was afraid he wouldn't get the bounty.

I personally feel he made that choice and considering his history I think it's telling. He's a convicted murderer and armed robber. And while he claims to have found Jesus, reformed himself and preaches a bunch of mocho Honor crap to young impressionable jarheads, he's still perfectly willing to commit felonies if there's enough money in it and he thinks he can get away with it.
Fuck him. Fuck Rapists too. but fuck him, I'm not gonna cry for him or sign petitions

I guess generally, while I firmly believe that anyone is capable of changing or reform and that a debt payed is payed, in his position I don't think the man has any business making a career out of apprehending criminals. And, I just don't care for him or his hair cut very much.

If you watch him or the show he seems to really practice what he preaches, not to mention what he did was in 03 they waited till 06 to go after him in any way.

Bounty hunting is a misdemeanor in mexico btw.

Yeeeeah Colinism, sneaking into a foreign country with intent to kidnap someone and transport them across borders is a misdemeanor.

. . . And it seems they didn't wait until 2006 to go after him in any way. He was immediately arrested. Posted bail. And ironic isn't it ? Fled the country. Isn't that how the story goes ? Mexico actually requested his exdradition like a good little neighbor in 2006. They didn't have a bunch of felons sneak into the country to kidknap the Dog.

I don't know exactly how Mexican law works - but then I suspect you don't either - but in the U.S. (in most states) a misdemeanor carries a maximum sentence of one year. Some states have aggravated misdemeanors, with maximum sentences of two years. The maximum sentence the Chapmans face is four years.

In the U.S., that would mean it's a felony.

Hmm, I was sure this was over. It was all over the news here and I thought they said the charges had been dropped.

He seem to still have his petition going on . But it's very vauge what it's for. Pleading for both governments to "call for a special investigation into this case in the interest of a quick and fair resolution. "

but yeah you live where he's from right ? You hear a lot about him ? Whats your take PRock ? Is he a hero or a sleazy opportunist ?

I know he's kind of obnoxious (at least that's my take with all the showboating) but I've never heard anyone have anything bad to say about the man. I think he really does mean well. I'm on another island, but I have friends over there, and yeah, I think he's a good guy.

hrrrpf. *flag*

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ok, I guess I'll grudgingly give him +1 in his column, but I still hate his hair cut. I'd like him extradited to Mexico just for that alone.

I think it's a matter of principle... Kidnapping IS illegal anyway you slice it. We wouldn't like it if someone came into the U.S. and tried to illegally spirit someone off to stand trial in another country (that's what extradition is for). However, circumventing the laws of other countries isn't exactly a problem with our government, so why should it be with it's citizenry? (Extraordinary rendition doesn't exactly set a good example, ironically though, he was being held by U.S. Marshals for extradtion...). He took a big risk going down there, but it payed off for him, sort of (he didn't get the bounty, but he got a lot of publicity, but now he's facing the music for violating international laws). I could really care less about the Dog, there are so many other more important things in life to worry about then his legal fate in Mexico. I imagine that if he just payed off the Federales, they'd get off his back for good.

Yea, because capturing a fugitive who is a serial rapist makes him a sleazy opportunist. Are you fucking serious ? Do you even know anything about how shitastic the Mexican police are ? The guy probably has money to burn, and most likely could have kept evading capture given a little more time.

If the Mexican government even cared about getting a serial rapist behind bars. They would have worked this out, instead of trying to make some big incident out of it, and probably getting paid off to do it. It's called working together...and even though he didn't go about it correctly, this whole incident could have been aavoided easily.

I don't know how long they were in Mexico getting this guy. If they were in there for a long while, then I will agree they were wrong not to notify authorities if they knew what they were doing was wrong. But, it was a small slight. It's ok for them to come pouring over our borders...but we can't chase a criminal into there country ?

chainlink...I agree...his haircut is terrible and it makes me want to punch something. Mullets must die.

Yes, and sometimes it is necessary to destroy the village to save it. Right?

When I said that you sometimes have to break the law to do what's right, I didn't mean to imply that you shouldn't have to suffer the consequences of your actions. He put a very bad person behind bars; a person that both the American and Mexican authorities didn't seem to be able to find. However, he broke the law (knowingly or unknowingly) and he should face the music.

I would have the same concerns as he, such as whether or not he would receive a fair trial in Mexico. I wouldn't exactly trust the Mexican police or their judicial system. I'm sure there are honest individuals that work in both, but I read way too many stories about the corruption down there to put one ounce of faith in them.

There's probably a good chance the trial will be made an example of, but there's also a chance that this could be resolved with a couple hundred dollar fine. In this case the best course of action would probably be both countries sitting down and discussing the issue. On the one hand, he put a wanted sleaze ball behind bars. That has to get him a couple of gold stars, even from the Mexican government. On the other hand, he broke the law to do so and needs to face some kind of consequence. Someone needs to work out a plea bargain of some sort. In the CNN article below, a California judge ruled that Dog's team did not get any of the bounty. I think that's a pretty fair punishment. That doesn't help the Mexican government, though, so maybe the bounty should go to a Mexican charity?

This CNN article also says that he jumped bail and fled the country after he was ordered not to. That obviously doesn't lend much to Dog's case. Federal marshals arrested him and took him away, which I assume is where the $300K bail came from. The Mexican courts ordered them to pay $1,500 each and stay in Mexico until the issue was resolved.

It also makes it sound like they happened upon the Max Factor guy outside of a night club and seized the opportunity, but I haven't come across anything that says for sure either way. I'm curious if he knew about the fact that bounty hunting was illegal in Mexico and picked up the guy anyway, or if he was just ignorant about the law there.

Regardless, "ignorance of the law is no excuse." I'm quoting a New York City judge on that one.

And oh my god, if I read one more bad pun from the AP, Reuters, or any other press agency, I'll have to hang myself.

"Dog collared for jumping bail in Mexico."

*groan*

Not 86 counts of rape. He was convicted of 86 crimes of which some were rape. In total, he's been convicted of raping three women.

"Dog, you're gonna have to stop kidnapping people now."

"That's cool, I'm done filming my video anyway."

Yeah I'm fucking serious. Breaking laws and treaties in multiple countries for a million dollars makes him a sleazy opportunist in my book.
What ? you think he did it because he's a noble hero and hates rapists ?