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Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

APR 08, 2007 10:55 AM

Because that’s the only explanation as to why she’d leave this great country to go waltzing around with the terrorists, right? Why would she DARE to undermine George Bush's fantastic foreign policy efforts? By going to Syria, she’s sending them a clear message that the United States is interested in avoiding conflict through diplomacy, and we just can’t have that.

As if you needed more evidence that Pelosi hates America, look no further than the Middle Eastern press’ favorable reaction to her visit. If the terrorists like her, then she must be evil.

"Bush thinks Pelosi's visit to Syria would make the Syrian president feel part of the international community again," wrote Masoud el-Henawi in Egypt's al-Ahram newspaper. "The question that gnaws at me now is: Is it better to isolate a country in Syria's weight or start a dialogue with it so that the reality behind its positions becomes known?

"I think dialogue and diplomacy are the best ways to deal with it, even if the American president would look with disgust at such an approach."


Heaven forfend! Here's some more Al-Jazeera-type journalists talking favorably about the visit:

"When I compare it, for example, to the visits of Condoleezza Rice, who is the secretary of state, this definitely created more of a buzz," he said. "People in the States think this is a Democratic propaganda campaign. ... This has been seen totally differently in the Middle East. It has been seen as a breath of fresh air being brought into the region as far as diplomacy."

Some of the reason for that buzz, Dajani said, may be a broad perception in the Middle East that America is politically homogenous, with widespread support in the public and government for the White House's approach.

"Nancy Pelosi defying the administration, it has shown a little bit of a balance of power that people have not been used to seeing from here," he said.

Writing in English for Al-Jazeera's Web site, Seifulah Rahim went so far as to describe Pelosi's visit as a "bold end-run around President Bush, to raise her profile as a kind of Democratic prime minister to Bush's Republican presidency."


A "breath of fresh air." "Balance of power." "Diplomacy." Those are thinly-veiled code words for “Hating America” and “Not supporting the troops.” It couldn’t be clearer that Pelosi’s visit has had a positive effect on the perception of America in the Middle Eastern diplomatic community. And positive means bad. Or something.

Pollster John Zogby said a reading of other English-language press from the region also gave the sense that Pelosi was being seen as "the anti-Bush."

"That is extremely important, because there has been serious damage done in terms of both the elite and how they view the U.S. and in terms of general public opinion," he said. "The trip is playing, generally speaking, very well in both regions -- both within Iran and within the Arab world."

A number of outlets, Zogby said, connected Pelosi's visit to a number of developments within the region, such as rumored efforts of talks between Syria and Israel, the newly unified Palestinian government and even some White House measures such as scheduled regional talks on Iraq that are expected to include both Iran and the United States.

"The sense here is that this kind of trip by a leading U.S. official is the start of the glue that might put all of those initiatives together," he said.


No no no! We don’t want any sort of glue that will bring people together! We want more saber-rattling and threats of direct military action. That’s how you bring stability to a region. Someone get Condi over there to push everyone around again, asap!

Thankfully some folks back here like Mitt Romney are still willing to call a spade a spade.

"I just don't know what got into her head, to be completely honest with you. Her going to a state which is without question a sponsor of terror and having her picture taken with Assad and being seen in a head scarf and so forth is sending the wrong signal to the people of Syria and to the people of the Middle East," Romney said.


That wrong signal is, of course, that we as a country are willing to discuss our problems with other countries before bombing them. And we just can’t have that.

Can we?

Subrosa would never admit to having voted for Pelosi at least 4 times.

SignalNoise

SignalNoise

USA
February 2004

APR 08, 2007 11:08 AM

This is kinda really neat stuff. There's th famous, that was more cute saying than true anyway, that "politics ends at the water's edge." More and more, that's clearly breaking down as Pelosi acts more like a "prime minister," in her capacity as head of the legislature, to work about Bush's goofy policies. And, with the proliferation of news media around the world (thanks to satellites and internets), clearly foreign governments and citizens are becoming really sensitive to partisan differences. So, while these actors may have problems with the US, they also recognize they have *more* problems with the current administration than the Democrats in Congress. I hate predictions - but these kinds of moves might actually alter foreign policy actions and the job of the legislature in that arena.

nonfcomm

nonfcomm

Pittsburgh, PA
June 2006

APR 08, 2007 11:12 AM

Dammit! What is she thinking? How else will we get to bomb them now?!? We can't bomb people who talk to us!

cunninglinquist

cunninglinquist

Quakertown, PA
November 2003

APR 08, 2007 11:14 AM

Condi is useless, she was out of her league as National Security Advisor and even more now in her new job. Of course Nancy will get good press, that part of the world hates Bush, but then who can blame them. Creating a war to get Saddam for his father, creating false testimony in front of the American people and then the world at the UN as delivered by Powell.
Why not attack the Republicans that went with her or that have visited the exact same leaders, because you only attack the other party. Also you fire them when they will not enforce the laws the way you want to.
Nancy probably should not have gone, but then neither should any other member of Congress or the House, but since she is in the position of power and can offer a different view of the world instead of Dubya's myopic one she was a welcome visitor.
We need the President to understand that his party was voted out of power because of him and his policies, and he is President not King.

Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

APR 08, 2007 11:19 AM

Is this level of sarcasm needed for all news politics posts that go up?

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

APR 08, 2007 11:20 AM

nonfcomm said:
Dammit! What is she thinking? How else will we get to bomb them now?!? We can't bomb people who talk to us!


Say what?

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

APR 08, 2007 11:26 AM

Lemonkid said:
Is this level of sarcasm needed for all news politics posts that go up?



Yes, it is absolutely postively required now. Sorry.

madbax

madbax

Nome, TX
March 2005

APR 08, 2007 11:29 AM

Lemonkid said:
Is this level of sarcasm needed for all news politics posts that go up?



Sarcasm is the primary outlet on these boards because most have nothing positive to contribute.

Hate hate hate.

Horrorflick

Horrorflick

Detroit, MI
February 2003

APR 08, 2007 11:29 AM

Subrosa said:

Lemonkid said:
Is this level of sarcasm needed for all news politics posts that go up?



Yes, it is absolutely postively required now. Sorry.



HAHAA HA HA HAAAA!!!!

Horrorflick

Horrorflick

Detroit, MI
February 2003

APR 08, 2007 11:31 AM

madbax said:

Lemonkid said:
Is this level of sarcasm needed for all news politics posts that go up?



Sarcasm is the primary outlet on these boards because most have nothing positive to contribute.

Hate hate hate.



I'd hate myself too if I had voted for that douchebag...

wildswan

wildswan

I'm lost
June 2006

APR 08, 2007 11:35 AM

Subrosa said:

Lemonkid said:
Is this level of sarcasm needed for all news politics posts that go up?



Yes, it is absolutely postively required now. Sorry.



Hehe. Sarcasm is sweet, sweet, burning nectar

ratzaz

ratzaz

Nashville, TN
March 2007

APR 08, 2007 11:40 AM

I can't believe there are right-wing morons on this site. Hey, Ronnie, this is not FOX news, go home!

NikkiIs

NikkiIs

Drexel, MO
April 2005

APR 08, 2007 12:06 PM

ratzaz said:
I can't believe there are right-wing morons on this site. Hey, Ronnie, this is not FOX news, go home!



Just as many right wing morons as left wing morons. Diversity makes the web go round.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

APR 08, 2007 12:09 PM

NikkiIs said:

ratzaz said:
I can't believe there are right-wing morons on this site. Hey, Ronnie, this is not FOX news, go home!


Just as many right wing morons as left wing morons. Diversity makes the web go round.


Morans. The word is morans. As in, "Your all morans."

Sheesh. Some people.

BabyBlue

BabyBlue

Portland, OR
August 2003

APR 08, 2007 12:25 PM

Zarth said:

NikkiIs said:

ratzaz said:
I can't believe there are right-wing morons on this site. Hey, Ronnie, this is not FOX news, go home!


Just as many right wing morons as left wing morons. Diversity makes the web go round.


Morans. The word is morans. As in, "Your all morans."

Sheesh. Some people.



You mean that word exists outside of Fark? I had no idea.

OctEgon

OctEgon

Tustin, CA
July 2005

APR 08, 2007 01:15 PM

Topic should read: "Why Do SG Members Hate The News Feed?"

Munke

Munke

Penngrove, CA
May 2004

APR 08, 2007 02:03 PM

I love Nancy.

She makes me feel funny in my pants.

Thanks god at least someone is trying to do something... diplomatic... these days.

Neumie

Neumie

North Hollywood, CA
December 2004

APR 08, 2007 02:14 PM

Munke said:
I love Nancy.

She makes me feel funny in my pants.

Thanks god at least someone is trying to do something... diplomatic... these days.



ElizaTheTroll

ElizaTheTroll

Australia
January 2006

APR 08, 2007 02:15 PM

So is Subrosa the new FTR? shocked

Not that I had any say in these matters, but I think you guys should co-impeach Bush and Cheney already and make Nancy president. wink

OctEgon

OctEgon

Tustin, CA
July 2005

APR 08, 2007 02:32 PM

oyaji said:

OctEgon said:
Topic should read: "Why Do SG Members Hate The News Feed?"


Thank you for caring, fuck you for sharing.


Slow your roll buddy. I comment here all the time. If I hated, I'd find better things to do. Just making a comment on the comments.

peace be with you.

HarManic

HarManic

Urbana, IL
March 2005

APR 08, 2007 02:34 PM

See, this is why I don't understand the Hillary thing. I feel like Hillary is the ultimate blow-with-the-wind politician, and Pelosi is showing some actual leadership. I'd love to see more action in the legislature, but it's on the way.

Why must we try to manufacture a female leader in Hillary, when an actual one is already around? I'd love to see Pelosi as Obama's running mate.

agapao

agapao

Santa Cruz, CA
December 2005

APR 08, 2007 02:37 PM

I am most certainly no pacifist. On the contrary, I believe that violence is sometimes necessary to protect innocents and can be ethically applied. But this bullshit of refusing to talk to enemies is counter-productive. The core problem is that war is so profitable for our ruling clique . . .

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

APR 08, 2007 03:11 PM

bald_eagle said:

Zarth said:

NikkiIs said:

ratzaz said:
I can't believe there are right-wing morons on this site. Hey, Ronnie, this is not FOX news, go home!


Just as many right wing morons as left wing morons. Diversity makes the web go round.


Morans. The word is morans. As in, "Your all morans."

Sheesh. Some people.





Zarth is always right.


Yet another reason to hate St. Louis Cardinals fans.

JekyllAndHyde

JekyllAndHyde

Baltimore, MD
April 2005

APR 08, 2007 03:14 PM

BernardShakey said:

bald_eagle said:

Zarth said:

NikkiIs said:

ratzaz said:
I can't believe there are right-wing morons on this site. Hey, Ronnie, this is not FOX news, go home!


Just as many right wing morons as left wing morons. Diversity makes the web go round.


Morans. The word is morans. As in, "Your all morans."

Sheesh. Some people.





Zarth is always right.


Yet another reason to hate St. Louis Cardinals fans.



Go Cubs

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

APR 08, 2007 03:18 PM

Wow. Politics lesson. Both parties think the other is destroying America. The difference is what they say the motivation for that destruction is.

Democrats think Republicans are destroying America because of greed and anti-intellectualism.

Republicans think that democrats are destroying America because Democrats hate America?!?

I really think there are two Republican parties. The one's that have the most to gain, the rich and powerful. And the people that are too anti-intellectual to avoid the tools of oppression that their own party uses.

Democrats should continue work to free the minds of these people. Freedom isn't free, after all.

The Social Conservative religion is a means to supress the unhappiness of the oppressed, just like the radical islamic party.

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