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AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

APR 01, 2007 02:37 PM

Nearly half (48 percent) of the public rejects the scientific theory of evolution; one-third (34 percent) of college graduates say they accept the Biblical account of creation as fact.

Source


surreal

Rin

Rin

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

APR 01, 2007 02:40 PM

yeah, but WHO are they polling? 48% of adults maybe in a rural, conservative area, but not, say, 48% of people in portland!

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

APR 01, 2007 02:46 PM

Rin said:
yeah, but WHO are they polling? 48% of adults maybe in a rural, conservative area, but not, say, 48% of people in portland!



"A belief in God and an identification with an organized religion are widespread throughout the country, according to the latest NEWSWEEK poll . . . "

I saw this article last night. Made me cry.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

APR 01, 2007 02:46 PM

Rin said:
yeah, but WHO are they polling? 48% of adults maybe in a rural, conservative area, but not, say, 48% of people in portland!


That percentage is pretty stable in poll after poll. Yes, people in urban areas tend to be more secular, but it's pretty much forty-odd percent (or, to the great shame of our educational system, even more) of the American population across the board.

Best headline ever, by the way.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

APR 01, 2007 02:50 PM

Seventy-three percent of Evangelical Protestants say they believe that God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years; 39 percent of non-Evangelical Protestants and 41 percent of Catholics agree with that view.



seriously. WTF ?

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

APR 01, 2007 02:58 PM

I read this first in the liberal group, and what was most remarkable to me was th 34% of college graduates accept the biblical account of creation as fact.

Funny thing is that every one of these folks would probably read Gilgamesh and recognize it as mythology, but they can't see that Hebrew mythology is also mythology.

The really sad thing is that mythology serves an important purpose as mythology. Once you starting trying to convert it to fact it becomes just another ideology, with nothing better to teach anyone than any other ideology.

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

APR 01, 2007 03:00 PM

Rin said:
yeah, but WHO are they polling?



Me!

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
And if Phil Collins said he created the world, I believe him!

saltonsea

saltonsea

Toronto, ON
July 2004

APR 01, 2007 03:00 PM

Rin said:
yeah, but WHO are they polling? 48% of adults maybe in a rural, conservative area, but not, say, 48% of people in portland!



don't give her any information.....
she's part of the Borg.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

APR 01, 2007 03:02 PM

NickFaust said:
I read this first in the liberal group, and what was most remarkable to me was th 34% of college graduates accept the biblical account of creation as fact.

Funny thing is that every one of these folks would probably read Gilgamesh and recognize it as mythology, but they can't see that Hebrew mythology is also mythology.

The really sad thing is that mythology serves an important purpose as mythology once you starting trying to convert it to fact it becomes just another ideology, with nothing better to teach anyone than any other mythology.


Just so. The ironic thing about about fundamentalism is that imposes a philosophically materialistic interpretation on spiritual texts.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

APR 01, 2007 03:15 PM

Rin said:
yeah, but WHO are they polling? 48% of adults maybe in a rural, conservative area, but not, say, 48% of people in portland!



Can we please, please not get into another long protracted discussion based on people's lack of understanding of statistical polling methodologies.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

APR 01, 2007 03:21 PM

Zarth said:

NickFaust said:
I read this first in the liberal group, and what was most remarkable to me was th 34% of college graduates accept the biblical account of creation as fact.

Funny thing is that every one of these folks would probably read Gilgamesh and recognize it as mythology, but they can't see that Hebrew mythology is also mythology.

The really sad thing is that mythology serves an important purpose as mythology once you starting trying to convert it to fact it becomes just another ideology, with nothing better to teach anyone than any other mythology.


Just so. The ironic thing about about fundamentalism is that imposes a philosophically materialistic interpretation on spiritual texts.




I just had no idea that 41% of Catholics were fundamentalist. I mean, I knew they were pretty hard core. What, with that funny little dude and the silly hat but reeeally.

AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

APR 01, 2007 03:24 PM

I...just don't understand it. I mean, a belief in a supreme being is one thing, I get that. But half of all people polled saying they reject the theory of evolution? A third of college graduates believing in Creationism as fact?

And what also confuses me, why do Evangelical Christians have such a strict adherence to only some parts of the Old Testament? They're all about Genesis and selective passages of Leviticus, but choose to ignore the rest.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

APR 01, 2007 03:26 PM

Ah, Leviticus. Blueprint for Utopia.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

APR 01, 2007 03:32 PM

chainlink said:

Zarth said:

NickFaust said:
I read this first in the liberal group, and what was most remarkable to me was th 34% of college graduates accept the biblical account of creation as fact.

Funny thing is that every one of these folks would probably read Gilgamesh and recognize it as mythology, but they can't see that Hebrew mythology is also mythology.

The really sad thing is that mythology serves an important purpose as mythology once you starting trying to convert it to fact it becomes just another ideology, with nothing better to teach anyone than any other mythology.


Just so. The ironic thing about about fundamentalism is that imposes a philosophically materialistic interpretation on spiritual texts.




I just had no idea that 41% of Catholics were fundamentalist. I mean, I knew they were pretty hard core. What, with that funny little dude and the silly hat but reeeally.



What is interesting is that he Catholic church pretty much disavows creationism, equating it with paganism.

What is fun is to see what the wingnuts make of that.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

APR 01, 2007 03:34 PM

Zarth said:
Ah, Leviticus. Blueprint for Dystopia.



Fixed.

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

APR 01, 2007 03:43 PM

AceT said:
I...just don't understand it. I mean, a belief in a supreme being is one thing, I get that.



I don't even understand the belief in an omnipotent supreme being.

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

APR 01, 2007 03:50 PM

"WTF is wrong with you people?"

When you find out, let me know.

I am constantly astonished at the gullibility of large proportions of the population. Really, it puts the whole 2000 and 2004 election cycle into focus: if 48% actually believe in Creationism, it doesn't put a Bush victory out of reckoning.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

APR 01, 2007 03:52 PM

NickFaust said:

Zarth said:
Ah, Leviticus. Blueprint for Dystopia.


Fixed.


Aaaauuuggghh!!! It's secular humanism!!!! Get it off! Get it OFFFFF!!!!!!!

MschfMayhemSoap

MschfMayhemSoap

Phoenix, AZ
April 2006

APR 01, 2007 04:41 PM

horatios_dreams said:
"WTF is wrong with you people?"

When you find out, let me know.

I am constantly astonished at the gullibility of large proportions of the population. Really, it puts the whole 2000 and 2004 election cycle into focus: if 48% actually believe in Creationism, it doesn't put a Bush victory out of reckoning.



Tommy Lee Jone said it best in Men in Black, thought I don't quite remember the line. blackeyed A single person can be rational and smart, and can think things through, but people, on the other hand, are scared dumb animals who just wanna be safe and secure.

Individual mentality is often of higher intelligence than Group mentality. Must be why Evangelists preach to people en masse tongue

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

APR 01, 2007 05:13 PM

MschfMayhemSoap said:

horatios_dreams said:
"WTF is wrong with you people?"

When you find out, let me know.

I am constantly astonished at the gullibility of large proportions of the population. Really, it puts the whole 2000 and 2004 election cycle into focus: if 48% actually believe in Creationism, it doesn't put a Bush victory out of reckoning.



Tommy Lee Jone said it best in Men in Black, thought I don't quite remember the line. blackeyed A single person can be rational and smart, and can think things through, but people, on the other hand, are scared dumb animals who just wanna be safe and secure.

Individual mentality is often of higher intelligence than Group mentality. Must be why Evangelists preach to people en masse tongue



makes perfect sense, really.

James_

James_

United Kingdom
March 2003

APR 01, 2007 05:28 PM

Oh come on. If your understanding of religious philosophy and mythology is so basic that you think every word of it is supposed to be true, then you have the mentality of a five year old.
The learned men of the church, who's business is studying theology (I'm talking here about actual theologians, not evangelical douchebags) do not believe that the bible is a literal historical document, and yet the uneducated masses do and their doomsaying lay preachers do.
Once again the gulf between serious spirituality and laymans religion is painfully obvious. Sad blackeyed

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

APR 01, 2007 05:41 PM

NickFaust said:

Rin said:
yeah, but WHO are they polling? 48% of adults maybe in a rural, conservative area, but not, say, 48% of people in portland!



Can we please, please not get into another long protracted discussion based on people's lack of understanding of statistical polling methodologies.



Word.

It doesn't specify who is being polled in detail:

The NEWSWEEK Poll, conducted March 28-March 29, has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points for questions based on all registered voters and plus or minus 6 percentage points for results based on registered Republicans and Republican leaners. In conducting the poll, Princeton Survey Research Associates International interviewed 1,004 adults aged 18 and older.


But one assumes that it reasonably covers various subsamples of the population (rural/urban, Dem/Repub and so on).

Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

APR 01, 2007 05:42 PM

Well at least the number of people who think that you can't be moral and athiest is down. That's something at least.

Gringo

Gringo

Spokane, WA
May 2006

APR 01, 2007 06:05 PM

And people wonder why the U.S. is the number one target of Internet/bank scams by Nigeria.

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leningradcowboy

leningradcowboy

I'm lost
February 2007

APR 01, 2007 06:07 PM

Well, we know the world is only 5,000 yrs old, so Creationism HAS to be true! whatever tongue

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