NEWS: Guntards Hate Bloomberg

POLITICS: Guntards Hate Bloomberg

Sweet Virginia, you’re always there for me when I need a moronic story. This time gun loving Virginians are hopping mad at New York City Mayor and raging hippie, Michael Bloomberg. The mayor has filed a lawsuit against 27 out-of-state gun dealers for selling firearms illegally to undercover private investigators who were working for NYC. Bloomberg wants to force the 27 gun dealers from Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Virginia to allow monitoring of sales. But Virginia is striking back, like a retard throwing a haymaker.

The Virginia Citizens Defense League came up with the idea of a “Bloomberg Gun Give Away.” It is fucking brilliant. Customers who spend $100 are eligible to win a handgun or a rifle in a raffle that will be held on April 19. The winner will receive a handgun or a rifle worth around $900. Two stores are partaking in this example of swift and brutal Virginia vengeance.

Well, consider him beaten. On one side, Bloomberg filed a lawsuit that caused two Virginia gun dealers to go out of business due to legal fees and two others to settle and agree to the court monitoring. And on the other side, the tough-as-nails Virginians started a raffle. Game, set, and match.

You have to feel for the Virginian gun dealers. All they were doing was illegally selling guns. According to private investigators running the sting, one person would fill out legal forms in order to buy a gun for another person – who was not legally allowed to own a firearm. But now they are being punished for selling guns to people who could have been felons. Typical big city bullshit.

Bloomberg took aim at the out of state dealers because 90% of guns used in crimes in New York City come from out of state. But Virginia gun dealers see it from another point of view.

So, let me see if I can get this straight: We should all have guns to protect us because someone might break into our house to take our guns. Gotcha.

At Bob Moates Sport Shop there are pictures of Bloomberg, Sarah Brady of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and Wisconsin Governor Jim Doyle taped to a shotgun rack. Bloomberg’s face is circled in pink. "Here are our worst enemy" is written below. Which is confusing, because either “enemy” should be plural or “are” should be replaced with “is,” unless of course the store is just looking to maintain that “Virginia mountain feel.”

Either way, the raffle is a success. One “longtime customer” claimed he had earned “six or seven” tickets and will probably buy more just to get back at mayor Bloomberg. Sadly, he will not get back at mayor Bloomberg because he is already a legal gun owner, which would mean the gun transfer would be legal. That is exactly what Bloomberg wants. The only way he could really get even with Bloomberg would be to give the gun to a felon and hope the criminal would kill a child on the streets of Brooklyn. Then he could yell a big and victorious, “Gotcha.”

they could hold the raffle to coincide with the kick off of Confederate History Month! that would be a real knockout blow for the south!

at least americans can defend theirselfs..... in england .... in major cities only the knob asshole gangsters are carrying..... and its just getting worse!


-Matt

um, if you are selling guns illegally you should get much worse than a "monitoring". we're hard on people selling cigarettes to minors, and this is much worse.

hahaha brilliant!

Ha ha. Good ol' Virginia. Always fun.

I've read about this illegal VA-NY gun trafficking for *decades*. And it's about fucking time that someone is making an effort to crack down on it. Virginians have apparently been too busy drinking six-packs of Busch and shooting cans to do anything about it, so I'm glad NYC has sent undercover cops to (god forbid) *enforce the law*.

Certainly, law abiding gun owners don't have a problem with enforcing the law, right?

And I love the 'you can break into a house anywhere and get anything you like' argument. By that logic, we might as well give up on trying to control anything. Let's just hand out drugs and guns on the street to children -- I mean, what's the point, they can just get them somewhere else by breaking into a home!

But you have to expect this kind of red herring. The point is, these gun stores are illegally selling guns. They have been doing it for years, and police have repeatedly traced guns used in NYC street crimes to stores like this one.

Wah! I feel so sad for them, just like I feel sad for kids at grocery stores being told they can't have candy.

Grow up, rednecks. If pro-gun activists really gave a fuck about legal gun sales, they'd be the first to speak out against illegal bullshit like this.

If it's a strawman purchase scam, why is NYC getting involved? The ATF has jurisdiction to revoke licenses and throw people in jail for that. Strawman purchases are very very illegal.

The fact that the ATF is not pursuing action, and instead NYC is filing a civil suit makes my BS detector go off.

It is a serious situation, but gun crime accounts for less than half a percent of crime in the UK. I can support having many more armed police, but surely you can't see us having guns to 'defend' outselves without gun crime levels rising? We need tougher laws to prevent guns being obtained, not laws allowing everyone to have one.

Because criminals have the utmost respect for the law, and will respectfully turn in their guns, once made illegal

Bwahaha! You hit that one on the head.

The idiocy of people still amazes me.

The ATF has been sitting on their ass about this for years.

Maybe they've also been too busy with the Alcohol and Tobacco to worry about the Firearms.

i want a picture of that

They are illegal (for the most-part), I'm talking about the UK.

And criminal's will obtain guns the same ways they currently are and probably have even more options to obtain weapons if they are legal. = More criminals with more guns + More 'innocent' people with guns to 'defend' themselves / kill their boss & co-workers etc if they'd have a 'bad day' / '101 other fun things to do with gun'

If Bloomberg are their worst enemy, man, Virginia must be nice.

Make all guns legal

It's not your right to deny me my right to lawful defense. I'm a non-violent person, and I don't even have a speeding ticket on my record. I have no history of mental illness and I have no indications that I could develop anything latent.

Why shouldn't I be able to own a gun, if I deem it appropriate to buy one? Hell, I don't want to shoot anyone, i'd feel like shit no matter HOW much they deserved it. That said, i'd rather feel guilty then be dead. I am also have principles, and if you try to put me at a disadvantage so I have to rely more upon the Government to protect me, thereby becoming more of a slave and more dependant on the Keynesian system then I assure you I will circumvent your attempts any way I can.

Oh, and btw, I sure as fuck don't trust the GOVERNMENT with weapons. Talk about irresponsible, they don't even need to worry about getting thrown in prison so long as they have an executive command.

I'm not saying everyone is responsible or smart enough to handle a fully automatic assault weapon. What i'm saying is that those of us who are capable should not be pulled down by the fucking retards who aren't.

One of the most prosperous and crime-free nations on Earth features unlimited private ownership of firearms. Anyone care to guess which one? HINT: When a man comes home from Army Boot Camp, he brings his assault rifle and a case of ammo with him.

I don't really know how to respond to this. I'd say I was happy to live in Michigan but we had/have the Michigan Militia.

Can you offer any proof that having access to firearms has anything to do with the prosperity or low crime rate of said nation?

Saying that if guns are legal people are going to flip out and kill their boss on a bad day is about the same as the argument that if abortion is legal people wont practice safe sex. There is a really big difference between cursing and or fighting someone and pulling a gun on them. Shooting someone is not an action that you can just walk away from. People who would resort to a gun in such a manner are the type of people who should already be under psychiatric evaluation and not allowed to own any sort of weapon much less a gun. ... Im not saying stupid people don't do stupid things I am just saying that it is an inaccurate generalization and that in any country where firearms are legal, people attempting to purchase one should be required to take some courses to educate them on exactly what the item they are purchasing does and the magnitude of its effect

This story is about stores selling guns to felons. It says nothing about rights to lawful defense.

Jump to conclusions much?

But since you mentioned it. Why shouldn't I deny you this 'right'? And where do you draw the line for weapons?

For the sake of argument, why shouldn't I be allowed to own a giant goddamned nuclear missile silo in my backyard? Or even a hundred, if that's what I wanted. And why not a big stockpile of chemical and biological weapons -- just to be safe?

You never know when you've got to eradicate burglars who are trying to steal your missiles.

...I mean, I have no history of mental illness. Sure, some people aren't capable of building and maintaining this kind of arsenal, but I shouldn't be pulled down by the fucking retards who aren't.

I'm pretty sure Switzerland allows this.
And your point?

It's hard to compare our society with theirs -- for example, instead of an enormous military budget, they spend a lot of money on nationalized healthcare and widespread education.

Ironic, because what NYC seems to be suing VA gunshops for is not adhering to the laws against strawman purchases well enough. The stores may have indeed sold guns to felons, but that isn't what this case is about.

No proof, as such. Maybe it's just a coincidence, maybe prosperity itself discourages crime, maybe criminals prefer unarmed victims. In a society where just about anyone may be legally carrying, the personal risk of criminality goes way up.

Switzerland it is.

It's just an example, not a comparison. They do, in fact, have an enormous military budget. Switzerland doesn't have an Army, Switzerland is an Army. Every physically and mentally capable man between ages 18 and 66 is in the Ready Reserve, and they all do active duty for training every year. Because of that, they have fully trained and responsible firearm ownership.

They are armed to the teeth, nobody messes with them, and more importantly, they don't mess with each other.