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UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

NOV 18, 2006 12:40 AM

As so many adopt the requisite "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" approach to the rise of Islamist reich, Glenn Beck manages to secrete "Exposed: The Extremist Agenda" onto CNN. See it now before YouTube yanks it.







The threat is out there. It is huge. It is ugly and it wants to kill you.



Wake up.

IKCSmiley

IKCSmiley

Asheville, NC
July 2003

NOV 18, 2006 10:10 AM

"The threat is out there. It is huge. It is ugly and it wants to kill you."

Dick Cheney?!?

Gringo

Gringo

USA
May 2006

NOV 18, 2006 10:21 AM

There are probably just as many threats by extremist groups in your own country....regardless of where you live.

You can spend the rest of your life dwelling on fear. Or, you can go on with your life and trust that those in the military and other protective positions do their jobs to the best of their abilities.

meggle

meggle

Berkeley, CA
November 2002

NOV 18, 2006 10:24 AM

be vewy vewy afwaid...propaganda by extremists...fox? cnn? beck says he's not a journalist...he's an ideologue. just like the goons in his extremist video. an extremist reporting on extremists. great idea. then he talks of balance? what is he on? why doesn't he have ann coulter with him for balance?

are you sure this isn't on comedy central?

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

Los Angeles, CA
November 2003

NOV 18, 2006 10:34 AM

meggle

meggle

Berkeley, CA
November 2002

NOV 18, 2006 10:41 AM

...and then there's this below...

meggle

meggle

Berkeley, CA
November 2002

NOV 18, 2006 10:43 AM


zoom image

Mr_Mocata

Mr_Mocata

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

NOV 18, 2006 10:53 AM

Come on folks, let's see some intelligent comments here instead of bombing this thread with joke pictures. Regardless of whether you agree with Glenn Beck's politics you have to admit that the footage shown here is shocking.

If you were to see footage of Americans or Israelis preaching hate against Iranian civilians you would be the first to stand up and condemn it. Do you not feel similarly motivated to condemn those who would preach hatred against American and Israeli civilians?

Gringo

Gringo

USA
May 2006

NOV 18, 2006 11:01 AM

archon said:
Come on folks, let's see some intelligent comments here instead of bombing this thread with joke pictures. Regardless of whether you agree with Glenn Beck's politics you have to admit that the footage shown here is shocking.

If you were to see footage of Americans or Israelis preaching hate against Iranian civilians you would be the first to stand up and condemn it. Do you not feel similarly motivated to condemn those who would preach hatred against American and Israeli civilians?


Actually, I value the right to free speech whether it's in my country or anyone else's. Sure I don't what they are chanting and suggesting, but I believe they have that right - regardless of what you or I think of it.

You may think these guys are "whacked out" or whatever...but maybe to them - they see their enemy the same way you're looking at these "terrorists." The label of "terrorist" applies to either side...depending on whose side you're viewing from.

MF_Ryan

MF_Ryan

Louisville, KY
September 2004

NOV 18, 2006 11:05 AM

if you are going to have a program about extremists shouldnt you put some stuff in about the christian extremists in america

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

Los Angeles, CA
November 2003

NOV 18, 2006 11:11 AM

archon said:
Come on folks, let's see some intelligent comments here instead of bombing this thread with joke pictures. Regardless of whether you agree with Glenn Beck's politics you have to admit that the footage shown here is shocking.

If you were to see footage of Americans or Israelis preaching hate against Iranian civilians you would be the first to stand up and condemn it. Do you not feel similarly motivated to condemn those who would preach hatred against American and Israeli civilians?



An intelligent article might get an intelligent repsonse. "Be afraid! Muslims are coming to kill you" doesn't quite meet the standard.

pascalpp

pascalpp

Brooklyn, NY
January 2004

NOV 18, 2006 11:19 AM

I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to compile a video of American movies and TV shows that would portray us as a nation of extremists. The vast majority of Muslims here and abroad are peaceful people. If you continue to cast them all as evil-doers, you will only alienate them and aid the extremists' cause. Learn to see the gray in the world.

Oh, and in case you didn't know, Glenn Beck is a racist knee-jerk reactionary idiot.

Mr_Mocata

Mr_Mocata

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

NOV 18, 2006 11:24 AM

TheGringo said:

archon said:
Come on folks, let's see some intelligent comments here instead of bombing this thread with joke pictures. Regardless of whether you agree with Glenn Beck's politics you have to admit that the footage shown here is shocking.

If you were to see footage of Americans or Israelis preaching hate against Iranian civilians you would be the first to stand up and condemn it. Do you not feel similarly motivated to condemn those who would preach hatred against American and Israeli civilians?


Actually, I value the right to free speech whether it's in my country or anyone else's. Sure I don't what they are chanting and suggesting, but I believe they have that right - regardless of what you or I think of it.



Does the right to free speech include the right to incite people to commit murder? Does it include the right to preach hatred? Does it include the right to slander? I've just listed three examples of types of speech which most people would not regard as being protected under the right to free speech. Do you accept that there should be limitations on the right to free speech?

If you were to see footage of Americans or Israelis preaching hate against Iranian civilians would you stand up and condemn it or would you simply write it off as some dudes exercising their right to free speech?

Dead_Ringer

Dead_Ringer

I'm lost
September 2004

NOV 18, 2006 11:27 AM

Why does it still take you three days after LGF cuts and pastes its drooling propoganda to cut and paste it over to SG? Does the internet take 3 days to get across the pond?

Gringo

Gringo

USA
May 2006

NOV 18, 2006 12:42 PM

archon said:
Does the right to free speech include the right to incite people to commit murder? Does it include the right to preach hatred? Does it include the right to slander? I've just listed three examples of types of speech which most people would not regard as being protected under the right to free speech. Do you accept that there should be limitations on the right to free speech?

If you were to see footage of Americans or Israelis preaching hate against Iranian civilians would you stand up and condemn it or would you simply write it off as some dudes exercising their right to free speech?


They have that right in their own country. You don't dictate what happens in THEIR country just like you don't want them dictating what happens in YOUR country. When you do, YOU become the terrorist to them.

I think that's our problem in this world...is we're so focused on what everyone else is doing...that we don't take the time and energy to fix our own internal fuck ups.

When they are killing people on your soil or planning on killing people on your soil....THEN take action. Until then...chill the fuck out and let the paranoid political and military officals deal with it.

The reality is, we're in over our heads with the Middle East. My country.is foolishly trying to force democracy on an area that doesn't want it or isn't ready for it. Although it's a noble cause....it certainly isn't working.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

NOV 18, 2006 12:47 PM

Dead_Ringer said:
Why does it still take you three days after LGF cuts and pastes its drooling propoganda to cut and paste it over to SG? Does the internet take 3 days to get across the pond?



Well, you know, it's a system of tubes and all...and sometimes when someone dumps a huge, steaming pile of shit in the tubes, it clogs it up for a bit.

R0nin

R0nin

Chicago, IL
October 2005

NOV 18, 2006 12:54 PM

I guess my question would be why the hell do people find this so shocking? There are extremists all over the world, this is nothing new.. How about we concentrate on the ones right here in the good ol' USA?? *cough* rightwingchristianextremists *cough* Ok I'm done..

Not2Bright

Not2Bright

Sumter, SC
July 2006

NOV 18, 2006 01:41 PM


This article uptight wrote isn't about right wing christian extremists. It's about Islamic extremist. If you want write that one yourself. No one is denying that there are terrorists of every religion, country, and race. That's another debate, go ahead and start it. Right wing christian extremist aren't calling for the death of every non-WASP in the world. They aren't cutting off people's heads and posting the videos on the internet. Yes, they are blowing up abortion clinics, and killing innocents, and we are combating them, with the FBI, NSA, and other federal police agencies. No one is standing back and letting them do it. The KKK is at war with the American gov't. So are the neo-Nazis. Everyday US agencies make arrests of 'home-grown' terrorists. No one is standing back and letting them continue.

Every organazation that is posing a threat to our government and the safety of it's people is being hunted by us, whether at home or abroad.


The FBI has 30,626 employees, not all of them are working on Islamic terrorists. Not every CIA agent is working on Islamic terrorists. They are trying to combat EVERY threat.

Mr_Mocata

Mr_Mocata

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

NOV 18, 2006 01:48 PM

TheGringo said:

archon said:
If you were to see footage of Americans or Israelis preaching hate against Iranian civilians would you stand up and condemn it or would you simply write it off as some dudes exercising their right to free speech?


They have that right in their own country. You don't dictate what happens in THEIR country just like you don't want them dictating what happens in YOUR country. When you do, YOU become the terrorist to them.


You can speak out against people who preach terror without advocating the invasion of a country. I am not advocating invading Iran.

My original comment was posted because, instead of discussing this topic in a sensible manner several people were treating it as a joke and posting funny pictures (obviously, my initial comment was not aimed at you - your prior comment did not include funny pictures).

I don't think that there is anything even remotely amusing about this topic and I think it deserves serious discussion.

Its good to see that since I posted my original comment the subsequent comments have been somewhat more on topic. Hence, I can say that my initial comment served its purpose in getting this thread back on track.

TheGringo said:When they are killing people on your soil or planning on killing people on your soil....THEN take action. Until then...chill the fuck out and let the paranoid political and military officals deal with it.



Its easy for people living in countries like the USA and the UK to dismiss this footage as fear mongering and paranoia. However, the fact of the London Bombings suggests that we shouldn't be too quick to do so. Islamic terrorists have already killed people on British soil. Obviously, the London Bombers were not Iranian but that's beside the point. The point is that the good old "It willl never happen in my backyard" argument is not valid.

As to my views concerning the footage from Iran, I personally do not feel that anyone is entitled preach violence and hatred. I do not care what country someone lives in or what religion or race they belong to. I do not care whether they are an American, an Israeli, an Iranian or belong to any other nationality.

joeywrists

joeywrists

Lake Grove, NY
March 2006

NOV 18, 2006 01:50 PM

Evil_Ender said:
if you are going to have a program about extremists shouldnt you put some stuff in about the christian extremists in america


i dont remeber christian extremists wanting to kill everyone

SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

NOV 18, 2006 01:51 PM

"And while some people just think he's bluffing, the IAEA has found traces of plutonium and enriched uranium at an Iranian nuclear waste site."
(emphasis added)



HEY TARD, you can't run a nuclear reactor without creating plutonium and enriched uranium. IT IS a nuclear waste product.
The hard part is extracting the plutonium or enriched uranium from the spent nuclear fuel / radioactive waste.
Duh, nuclear reactors 101.

Because only our enemies spread propaganda though ignorance! whatever

DieWhiteGirls

DieWhiteGirls

Madison, WI
July 2005

NOV 18, 2006 01:52 PM

I can't stand Glenn Beck, but I gained a bit of respect for him after this piece. As a Jew and American, this is eye opening. I thought that words could solve this problem before, but after seeing the hatred, I don't see how words can do anything. These people have been taught since childhood to hate us; they aren't going to listen to reason. The only problem with fighting them is that we create more hatred. This is truly a lose/lose situation. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

As a staunch Democrat hate to say this, but I have a bit more sympathy for the Bush administration after watching this piece. Their hands are thoroughly tied, no matter what they did in Iraq and what they continue to do in the Middle East. Yes, he has stated he wants to regulate oil prices, but I believe this administrations actions are purer than what I originally believed.

This doesn't mean that I'm going to suddenly become buddy buddy with the administrations policies in the Middle East, but I realize now that a middle ground must be met between the right and left. Every single person must unite to find a solution and the bipartisanship that we instigate is fueling the rifts in our policy making.

This was obviously a slanted piece of propaganda in it's own right, but it was nonetheless real and that's what's important. I truly hope that any other liberals watching this can see the need for change in our rhetoric. I can admit that I've obviously been wrong and now we all need to.

SirPsychoSexy

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ
January 2004

NOV 18, 2006 01:53 PM

joeywrists said:

Evil_Ender said:
if you are going to have a program about extremists shouldnt you put some stuff in about the christian extremists in america


i dont remeber christian extremists wanting to kill everyone



Not everyone, just pro abortionists, blacks, jews, and queers.

DieWhiteGirls

DieWhiteGirls

Madison, WI
July 2005

NOV 18, 2006 01:54 PM

Reading the automatic responses in this thread makes me sick. On the left, we claim to be so open minded, but all I see is rhetoric.

Admit that you can be wrong. If you can't do it, how the fuck do you expect anyone else to do it?

Longpastbedtime

Longpastbedtime

Ames, IA
March 2003

NOV 18, 2006 01:58 PM

DieWhiteGirls said:
Reading the automatic responses in this thread makes me sick. On the left, we claim to be so open minded, but all I see is rhetoric.

Admit that you can be wrong. If you can't do it, how the fuck do you expect anyone else to do it?


Admit what now? There are some good responses in here. There are also a lot of snarky comments. Welcome to the internet (try our porn). And while you're at it, get the fuck off your high horse.

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