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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

NOV 12, 2006 08:06 PM





Thankfully, Care Net, which used to be known as the Christian Action Council, receives state and federal funding. In 2006 Care Net scored a $2 million grant from Florida to operate a pregnancy "Option line," which is a toll-free phone number that gives young ladies other fetus options.



Care Net also pushes abstinence-only education. At least one Care Net affiliate, Care Net Pregnancy Services of DuPage, Illinois, receives $295,422 annually through the federal Community Based Abstinence Education Program.



And they throw shindigs where fathers can commit emotional incest with their daughters by getting overly involved in the loss of their virginity.



Your tax dollars at work.

_Elichrusos

_Elichrusos

Australia
November 2004

NOV 12, 2006 10:09 PM

Thankfully, Care Net, which used to be known as the Christian Action Council, receives state and federal funding. In 2006 Care Net scored a $2 million grant from Florida to operate a pregnancy "Option line," which is a toll-free phone number that gives young ladies other fetus options.


What, like Skim-fetus, half and half fetus, 2% fetus, homo fetus (no funding for that one)?

Fuck abstainence education right in the uterus.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Georgia, USA

NOV 12, 2006 10:18 PM

I feel like I need a shower now.

Daven

Daven

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

NOV 12, 2006 10:21 PM

So. Fucking. Creepy.

DieWhiteGirls

DieWhiteGirls

Madison, WI
July 2005

NOV 12, 2006 10:37 PM

Is this like the technical virgins? If you fuck your father, you're still a virgin?

Gringo

Gringo

USA
May 2006

NOV 12, 2006 10:40 PM

DieWhiteGirls said:
Is this like the technical virgins? If you fuck your father, you're still a virgin?


Dunno, it seemed to me like they are suggesting that if a daughter has a close/healthy/blahblahblah relationship with her father that she will somehow skip puberty and the urges that go with it and not want to fuck.

MisterEnrolled

MisterEnrolled

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

NOV 12, 2006 10:40 PM

What is this, The Electra Cult?

muy5

muy5

I'm lost
September 2006

NOV 12, 2006 10:40 PM


Your tax dollars at work.


I'd agree with you here, but I know you're only saying that because you disagree with the agenda of the group being funded and not because you think the government shouldn't be involved in any of this stuff period. It's liberal hypocrisy as usual; It's fine and necessary when the tax money is going to Planned Parenthood and their education programs, but it's mocked and condemned when someone uses Uncle Sugar's money to promote an opposing viewpoint.

PRockGirlScout

PRockGirlScout

Hawaii National Park, HI
October 2005

NOV 12, 2006 10:52 PM

Quality fathering does keep girls from fucking any guy who pays her the least bit of attention, but there is nothing the government can do to get men to do their fucking job. The guys in programs like this one are already committed fathers.

I wish the republicans would get their heads out of their asses and stop cutting programs that actually help, like headstart. Grrr, this shit makes me so mad. mad

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

NOV 12, 2006 10:56 PM

muy5 said:


Your tax dollars at work.


I'd agree with you here, but I know you're only saying that because you disagree with the agenda of the group being funded and not because you think the government shouldn't be involved in any of this stuff period. It's liberal hypocrisy as usual; It's fine and necessary when the tax money is going to Planned Parenthood and their education programs, but it's mocked and condemned when someone uses Uncle Sugar's money to promote an opposing viewpoint.



Wow. Nice stretch. I, much like the gentlemen who wrote the constitution, do not believe religious groups should get tax dollars. Your argument is pathetic.

Ziltoid

Ziltoid

Australia
April 2006

NOV 12, 2006 11:05 PM

That was absolutely terrifying on multiple levels.

muy5

muy5

I'm lost
September 2006

NOV 12, 2006 11:06 PM


And they throw shindigs where fathers can commit emotional incest with their daughters by getting overly involved in the loss of their virginity.


So what does that make sex education by an adult teacher in a public school, emotional rape of a child? I fail to see how it is repulsive to you that a child's legal guardian be involved in educating them and teaching them sexual values and be, presumably, fine with it when a parent delegates (abdicates?) that duty to the public school system.

DieWhiteGirls

DieWhiteGirls

Madison, WI
July 2005

NOV 12, 2006 11:06 PM

FearTheReaper said:

muy5 said:


Your tax dollars at work.


I'd agree with you here, but I know you're only saying that because you disagree with the agenda of the group being funded and not because you think the government shouldn't be involved in any of this stuff period. It's liberal hypocrisy as usual; It's fine and necessary when the tax money is going to Planned Parenthood and their education programs, but it's mocked and condemned when someone uses Uncle Sugar's money to promote an opposing viewpoint.



Wow. Nice stretch. I, much like the gentlemen who wrote the constitution, do not believe religious groups should get tax dollars. Your argument is pathetic.



You forgot to call him retarded.

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

NOV 12, 2006 11:15 PM

Daddy needs to be able to trust daughter...because, ya know...don't want to catch any STDs from her...

muy5

muy5

I'm lost
September 2006

NOV 12, 2006 11:18 PM

PRockGirlScout said:
but there is nothing the government can do to get men to do their fucking job.


And what if it could, would it advocate it get involved? That is the fundamental problem of government, the people in charge fail to recognize that not only will they not succeed, but that they probably shouldn't even be trying in the first place. Regrettably, the inevitable outcome is that some liberal or religious nut will try and legislate their particular viewpoint and the crushing tyranny of the trillion dollar beast will roll forward over ever more of my freedom.

futuramagoo

futuramagoo

Canada
March 2005

NOV 12, 2006 11:19 PM

This eternal accusation against Christianity I shall write upon all walls, wherever walls are to be found - I have letters that even the blind will be able to see... I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct of revenge, for which no means are venomous enough, or secret, subterranean and small enough, - I call it the one immortal blemish upon the human race...

F.W. Nietzsche

muy5

muy5

I'm lost
September 2006

NOV 12, 2006 11:23 PM

FearTheReaper said:
Wow. Nice stretch. I, much like the gentlemen who wrote the constitution, do not believe religious groups should get tax dollars.


So you'd be completely fine with it if it weren't a religious group doing this? Your comment about it being "emotional incest" suggests you find fault with the whole notion, because that assessment doesn't change meanings if the group is religious or not.

Coliwali

Coliwali

I'm lost
February 2003

NOV 12, 2006 11:26 PM

muy5 said:


Your tax dollars at work.


I'd agree with you here, but I know you're only saying that because you disagree with the agenda of the group being funded and not because you think the government shouldn't be involved in any of this stuff period. It's liberal hypocrisy as usual; It's fine and necessary when the tax money is going to Planned Parenthood and their education programs, but it's mocked and condemned when someone uses Uncle Sugar's money to promote an opposing viewpoint.



There is a pretty wide gulf between using government money to give children factual information on sex, sexuality and sexual health and using government money to teach children that baby Jesus cries if they go past first base.

Tangus

Tangus

Winter Park, FL
November 2005

NOV 12, 2006 11:31 PM

hey, at least we can thank the Christian Right for giving us extremely large hair on that one woman!!

Gringo

Gringo

USA
May 2006

NOV 12, 2006 11:38 PM

Muy, I see the point you're trying to make and I do respect it. The problem is, in my opinion, that most parents don't take the necessary steps to educate their children on either abstinence or birth control. It's kind of an either/or teaching. We grew up Catholic and were taught to "abstain" from sex. I started having sex at the age of 15. My sister went to an all-girls Catholic school near our home in Agoura Hills, CA. She is 9 years younger than me was having sex at age 13.

My father only taught abstinence in our home and all three of us lied to our parents about our sexual involvement because of the fear of rejection, disapproval, and punishment. Now, my sister wasn't taught about birth control but my brother and I were since we went to a public school. Fortunately, my sister's first boyfriend also went to public school and was taught that a condom would prevent pregnancy and STDs.

Sure, most kids aren't ready for sex at a young age but telling them "NO" isn't going to be enough. There will always be those kids who are going to do what they want regardless. I'm sure you did. I know that I did and most of my friends did as well.

Even parents who have the best of intentions cannot control their children's desires and actions. At least arm them with the knowledge and support of how to handle BOTH choices when it comes to sex.

muy5

muy5

I'm lost
September 2006

NOV 12, 2006 11:45 PM

futuramagoo said:
I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct of revenge,
F.W. Nietzsche


Wrong, the great intrinsic depravity of mankind is our inability to leave individuals alone to live their lives as they see fit and the skill with which we build entities of oppression to regulate those behaviors which the vocal majority finds objectionable. This course of action predates Christianity by thousands of years.

Nietzsche once again discredits himself by failing to realize that Christinaity, or any religion, isn't a problem, it is only the extent to which people will go to control other's that is the scourge. That is done in more names than religion and is equally objectionable under any banner. After all, is the government taxing you to feed the poor any worse than Jesus commanding you to do it? At least Jesus views himself your master because he believes he created you, the government believes itself your master because of where you live.

Capt_Sparrow

Capt_Sparrow

Russian Federation
January 2004

NOV 12, 2006 11:46 PM

we all know what happens after the prom wink

futuramagoo

futuramagoo

Canada
March 2005

NOV 12, 2006 11:53 PM

muy5 said:
At least Jesus views himself your master because he believes he created you, the government believes itself your master because of where you live.



frankly, I see no difference between the two.

you are absolutely correct that it is not religion but the extent to which people control others that is the scourge...I dont agree however that non-religious groups do it more than religious ones. my experience has been that 99.99999999999% of the time it's church goers who harrass you on the street, at your place of buisiness, at your home, and lobby congress (usually the GOP, Tories here in canada) to pass legislation that fits in with their theological view of life that is good enough for them and consequently for you too.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

NOV 12, 2006 11:54 PM

muy5 said:


And they throw shindigs where fathers can commit emotional incest with their daughters by getting overly involved in the loss of their virginity.


So what does that make sex education by an adult teacher in a public school, emotional rape of a child? I fail to see how it is repulsive to you that a child's legal guardian be involved in educating them and teaching them sexual values and be, presumably, fine with it when a parent delegates (abdicates?) that duty to the public school system.



The term "emotional incest" was one my wife used after watching the tape. She is what is known as a doctor, of psychology. Your an idiot. See the difference?

DhD_No_Pants

DhD_No_Pants

Katy, TX
May 2006

NOV 12, 2006 11:56 PM

I'm going to get so bashed for saying this, but:

If the girls are choosing to do this, it is a choice that they are making, the same as if they had chosen to have sex. Some people take great comfort from their religion, and as long as they are happy with it, and are not attempting to harm other people with their views, I'm not going to be one to bash them for it. It should be a father's job to care, protect, and nurture their children in all aspects of their life. To me, what the fathers are saying is that they are going to attempt to support their daughters in their decision by leading a pure life in return.

And not to sound like a bad after school special here, but I was one of those girls that sought out male affection from a very early age, and I do think that it was because I had a horrible dad. I had a lot of issues with my current relationship because I projected anger at my father onto my husband. It took me a very long time to realize that our worst fights happened directly after my father had done something to make me feel horrible inside. It is something I still struggle against, but at least I have realized it and am attempting to get around it.

I know that religion fucks people up and brainwashes people, but not everyone is some drone created by religion. Some people are happy with the faith that they have found, and if it is a true happiness, I am not going to begrudge anyone that.

If my daughter chose to be sexually active, as long as I was convinced that she was responsible and mature enough to do so, I would support her in any way, get her birth control, and teach her about sexual safety. If my daughter chose to be abstinent, I would also support that, again, as long as I knew that her reasons behind it were sound, and I would still teach her about sexual safety. If I truly believed that she was using sex to fill something in her life that was missing, I would still offer my support, and I would try to help her find out what it was that she needs. (at least, I hope that I am still reasonable enough to act like this when I have a daughter)

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