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ricosuave

ricosuave

I'm lost
September 2005

NOV 06, 2006 11:39 AM

assuming they take the House, should Dems hold hearings about Bush's role in pushing us into Iraq?

I think not.

The House would be better investigating the hell out of Haliburton, etc, but Bush's folly has been revealed, and no good can come of attacking him. He is damn near irrelevant already, don't give his base an excuse to rally to his defense.

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

NOV 06, 2006 11:44 AM

Well, they pretty much have to if they are going to impeach the fucker and put his administration on trial for the war crimes they have committed.

Andvari

Andvari

Calgary, AB
April 2005

NOV 06, 2006 12:00 PM

Yes

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Waldwick, NJ
June 2003

NOV 06, 2006 12:04 PM

The question should be: Why is it taking so long for the Dems to investigate Bush?

FridgeMagnet

FridgeMagnet

Chicago, IL
November 2004

NOV 06, 2006 12:05 PM

Are you guys conveniently forgetting all the Dems who did and still "support the war."

Andvari

Andvari

Calgary, AB
April 2005

NOV 06, 2006 01:00 PM

FridgeMagnet said:
Are you guys conveniently forgetting all the Dems who did and still "support the war."



They, at the very least, need to be severly chastised. Better yet, tried fro crimes against humanity as well. But I'll take Bush if it's the only thing on offer.

FridgeMagnet

FridgeMagnet

Chicago, IL
November 2004

NOV 06, 2006 01:16 PM

Andvari said:

FridgeMagnet said:
Are you guys conveniently forgetting all the Dems who did and still "support the war."



They, at the very least, need to be severly chastised. Better yet, tried fro crimes against humanity as well. But I'll take Bush if it's the only thing on offer.



Well my point was, the investigation shouldn't turn into a partisan snipefest. There are people from both parties that need to be held accountable.

J24U

J24U

Danvers, MA
February 2006

NOV 06, 2006 01:26 PM

FridgeMagnet said:

Andvari said:

FridgeMagnet said:
Are you guys conveniently forgetting all the Dems who did and still "support the war."



They, at the very least, need to be severly chastised. Better yet, tried fro crimes against humanity as well. But I'll take Bush if it's the only thing on offer.



Well my point was, the investigation shouldn't turn into a partisan snipefest. There are people from both parties that need to be held accountable.



agreed *passes out a few more torches and pitchforks*

TedKoppel

TedKoppel

Glendale, AZ
March 2004

NOV 06, 2006 01:32 PM

FridgeMagnet said:

Andvari said:

FridgeMagnet said:
Are you guys conveniently forgetting all the Dems who did and still "support the war."



They, at the very least, need to be severly chastised. Better yet, tried fro crimes against humanity as well. But I'll take Bush if it's the only thing on offer.



Well my point was, the investigation shouldn't turn into a partisan snipefest. There are people from both parties that need to be held accountable.


Sorta, but honestly, who still supports the war on the left wing apart from Lieberman? And he's not coming back.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC
August 2004

NOV 06, 2006 01:42 PM

even if they don't investigate him over this, there's still plenty else to look into (signing statements, war profiteering, nepotism, etc etc).

MschfMayhemSoap

MschfMayhemSoap

Phoenix, AZ
April 2006

NOV 06, 2006 02:19 PM

Bush shouldnt not be tried and fried on his own. If He goes down, he whol Admin has to go with him. Rummy, Condi, Cheny, The warlus at the UN, Roberto Gonzales (true he's not really a part, but I want my pictures back biggrin)

hadees

hadees

Austin, TX
December 2003

NOV 06, 2006 02:58 PM

The Dems should only investigate Bush if they have enough votes to actually do something. Otherwise they should spend their time trying to show up the Republicans by accomplishing something.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC
August 2004

NOV 06, 2006 03:04 PM

hadees said:
The Dems should only investigate Bush if they have enough votes to actually do something. Otherwise they should spend their time trying to show up the Republicans by accomplishing something.



agreed.

skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

NOV 06, 2006 03:09 PM

mydogfarted said:
The question should be: Why is it taking so long for the Dems to investigate Bush?



And the answer to that would be: because the Republicans have been blocking them every step when they've tried to. Democrats don't control any of the committees that would do the investigating. And when Dems who were actually on those committees tried to, the Republican leadership did cute things like force them to meet in a basement room, refuse to participitate, and schedule 11 other votes during the same time, to try to cut down on attendance. Not to mention things like shutting off microphones during a Patriot Act debate, etc., etc.

Akrasia

Akrasia

Ireland
August 2004

NOV 06, 2006 03:22 PM

skeptik said:

mydogfarted said:
The question should be: Why is it taking so long for the Dems to investigate Bush?



And the answer to that would be: because the Republicans have been blocking them every step when they've tried to. Democrats don't control any of the committees that would do the investigating. And when Dems who were actually on those committees tried to, the Republican leadership did cute things like force them to meet in a basement room, refuse to participitate, and schedule 11 other votes during the same time, to try to cut down on attendance. Not to mention things like shutting off microphones during a Patriot Act debate, etc., etc.


isn't democracy a magical thing

saltonsea

saltonsea

Vancouver, BC
July 2004

NOV 06, 2006 03:36 PM

MrCrisp said:

hadees said:
The Dems should only investigate Bush if they have enough votes to actually do something. Otherwise they should spend their time trying to show up the Republicans by accomplishing something.



agreed.



Mr.Crisp....i agree with you again..

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC
August 2004

NOV 06, 2006 03:48 PM

saltonsea said:

MrCrisp said:

hadees said:
The Dems should only investigate Bush if they have enough votes to actually do something. Otherwise they should spend their time trying to show up the Republicans by accomplishing something.



agreed.



Mr.Crisp....i agree with you again..


i really don't want there to be a partisan problem when the democrats gain control. i'd much rather have everyone working together without turning everything into a power grab or a witch hunt. it's important for the democrats to distance themselves with the type of performance that's going to get the GOP booted out this election, and that definitely includes adopting a mature and professional attitude. that being said, i definitely think there are certain actions that this administration should be held accountable for.

Dead_Ringer

Dead_Ringer

I'm lost
September 2004

NOV 06, 2006 03:51 PM

FridgeMagnet said:

Andvari said:

FridgeMagnet said:
Are you guys conveniently forgetting all the Dems who did and still "support the war."



They, at the very least, need to be severly chastised. Better yet, tried fro crimes against humanity as well. But I'll take Bush if it's the only thing on offer.



Well my point was, the investigation shouldn't turn into a partisan snipefest. There are people from both parties that need to be held accountable.


It's not a question of investigating who supported the war. We already know that; their votes are on the record. The question involves investigating those who collected and manipulated intelligence; those who "planned" the war; those who executed the war; and those who drove the subsequent occupation - by definition, the executive branch.

saltonsea

saltonsea

Vancouver, BC
July 2004

NOV 06, 2006 04:25 PM

MrCrisp said:

saltonsea said:

MrCrisp said:

hadees said:
The Dems should only investigate Bush if they have enough votes to actually do something. Otherwise they should spend their time trying to show up the Republicans by accomplishing something.



agreed.



Mr.Crisp....i agree with you again..


i really don't want there to be a partisan problem when the democrats gain control. i'd much rather have everyone working together without turning everything into a power grab or a witch hunt. it's important for the democrats to distance themselves with the type of performance that's going to get the GOP booted out this election, and that definitely includes adopting a mature and professional attitude. that being said, i definitely think there are certain actions that this administration should be held accountable for.



Truly....

I would hate to see the opportunity for proper change, lost because of infighting.
The time should be spent trying to correct the mistakes made, and not punishing those who made them....

artmovesproduct

artmovesproduct

Denver, CO
August 2006

NOV 06, 2006 04:52 PM

The problem with that kind of investigation is that, especially a government investigation, is that it often reveals as much about the investigator as the investigated. The only person/people able to pull this off would be someone with nothing to hide. Good luck.

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Waldwick, NJ
June 2003

NOV 06, 2006 05:09 PM

artmovesproduct said:
The problem with that kind of investigation is that, especially a government investigation, is that it often reveals as much about the investigator as the investigated. The only person/people able to pull this off would be someone with nothing to hide. Good luck.



How about someone who doesn't give a fuck about what is there to find? I'd love to be that guy.

Stiles

Stiles

New York, NY
November 2002

NOV 06, 2006 05:10 PM

Hasn't Pelosi already said impeachment was off the table?

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC
August 2004

NOV 06, 2006 05:11 PM

oyaji said:
It's an absurd question. It's a foregone conclusion that the democrats, if they retake either house of congress, will use their subpoena powers to investigate all sorts of activities of the Bush wrecking crew that have heretofore gone un-supervised by the republicans in congress.

If by "investigate Bush" you mean begin preliminary investigations aimed at leading to impeachment, then no. There's no point.



i agree that it'd be a serious waste of time and energy, especially with there being only two years left in his term, but what you would rather them do? is a criminal case a possibility?

anyways, it'll be nice to have checks and balances back.

darwinsjoke

darwinsjoke

Virginia Beach, VA
July 2003

NOV 06, 2006 05:12 PM

MrCrisp said:

saltonsea said:

MrCrisp said:

hadees said:
The Dems should only investigate Bush if they have enough votes to actually do something. Otherwise they should spend their time trying to show up the Republicans by accomplishing something.



agreed.



Mr.Crisp....i agree with you again..


i really don't want there to be a partisan problem when the democrats gain control. i'd much rather have everyone working together without turning everything into a power grab or a witch hunt. it's important for the democrats to distance themselves with the type of performance that's going to get the GOP booted out this election, and that definitely includes adopting a mature and professional attitude. that being said, i definitely think there are certain actions that this administration should be held accountable for.


A partisan problem is inevitable when one of the sides considers bi-partisanship to be date rape.

Dead_Ringer

Dead_Ringer

I'm lost
September 2004

NOV 06, 2006 05:38 PM

artmovesproduct said:
The problem with that kind of investigation is that, especially a government investigation, is that it often reveals as much about the investigator as the investigated. The only person/people able to pull this off would be someone with nothing to hide. Good luck.


Yes - i.e. an individual NOT of the executive branch.

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