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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

JUL 15, 2006 10:30 AM

Our great leader is currently in Russia attending the G-8 conference. He took some time out of pretending to know what was going on in the meetings to hold a joint news conference with Putin. It did not go well. Here's what born-again Christian Bush had to say:



"I talked about my desire to promote institutional change in parts of the world, like Iraq where there's a free press and free religion, and I told him that a lot of people in our country would hope that Russia would do the same."



Nice. Deluded, uninformed and insulting all in one sentence. Here are some examples of the freedom of religion that has occurred in Iraq in the last week:



Shiite militiamen set up checkpoints, inspected ID cards and killed 42 people they identified as being Sunnis. They also broke into homes and killed their inhabitants. Corpses were found in the street with drill holes and pierced by nails and bolts. In turn, the checkpoint killings spurred two more huge Sunni car bomb attacks in the Sadr-dominated neighborhood of Talbiyeh, killing 25 and wounding 41.





In a predominantly Sunni area of Dawra, a district in southern Baghdad, gunmen ambushed a bus carrying Shiite mourners from the holy city of Najaf, where they had buried a relative, government officials and family members said. The gunmen pulled 10 people from the bus and executed them, the Interior Ministry official said.





Two mortar grenades hit a Shiite mosque in Dawra, killing 9 and wounding 11 civilians, the Interior Ministry official said.





In other violence, a family of five - a father, mother, grown daughter and two teenage sons - were found beheaded in a predominantly Sunni sector of Dawra, according to an official at Yarmouk Hospital, the main medical facility in western Baghdad.





The killings this week are similar to the "Black Saturday" massacre in December 1975 that started the Lebanese civil war. On that day, Christian Phalangist militiamen stopped 40 Muslims at a checkpoint in Beirut and cut their throats. In retaliation, Muslim militiamen set up their own checkpoint and slaughtered Christians. Things in Lebanon did not go so well after that.



So what was Putin's response to religious fanatic George Bush's statement? He handled it like a man talking down to a child.



"We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy that they have in Iraq, quite honestly."



Those in the audience who understand Russian then burst into laughter.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUL 15, 2006 03:10 PM

you didnt add bush's response:

"just wait"

oh george, youre such a good DBATER

OctEgon

OctEgon

Tustin, CA
July 2005

JUL 15, 2006 03:14 PM

He's not just a good DBATER.

He's a MASTER DBATER!

Zing!

Ahhh, 4th grade humor.

Cassiel

Cassiel

Aurora, CO
September 2004

JUL 15, 2006 03:18 PM

+1 for Putin's response

vampiresoldier

vampiresoldier

I'm lost
March 2004

JUL 15, 2006 03:31 PM

dholokov

dholokov

Toronto, ON
April 2003

JUL 15, 2006 03:37 PM

Why couldn't some world leader have had a one-liner like that when Colin Powell pointed at pictures of a sandy landscape and called it proof positive Iraq had WMDs? The world might be a very different place today.

Princelogos

Princelogos

USA
November 2005

JUL 15, 2006 03:43 PM

Drinking all that high grade crude oil has clogged his brain, which is located just behind his hips.
Nationaly embarrassed again. blackeyed

vampiresoldier

vampiresoldier

I'm lost
March 2004

JUL 15, 2006 03:47 PM

Princelogos said:
Drinking all that high grade crude oil has clogged his brain, which is located just behind his hips.
Nationaly embarrassed again. blackeyed



INternationally embarrassed again.

mentalrage

mentalrage

United Kingdom
March 2006

JUL 15, 2006 03:49 PM

If I didn't know better I'd think Bush was just an actor doing a damn fine job of coming off like a "born again saviour/ corporate puppet" (delete as appropriate) and I used to think Prince Phillip was bad.

Holden_Caulfield

Holden_Caulfield

Ann Arbor, MI
April 2004

JUL 15, 2006 03:55 PM

For some reason, I can't see John Kerry making a comment like that.

highcontrast

highcontrast

San Francisco, CA
March 2003

JUL 15, 2006 04:31 PM

bush clearly has no idea what is going on in iraq.

none.

3nd3rwiggin

3nd3rwiggin

Eau Claire, WI
November 2005

JUL 15, 2006 05:06 PM

Russia does have its own problems, but kudos to Putin for that one. I soooo wish we had something like Prime Minister's questions in the US, then they'd have to know what the fuck they were talking about or everyone would see it and no one (except maybe o'reily) could deny it.

photoline

photoline

Edmonton, AB
January 2005

JUL 15, 2006 05:42 PM

The Bush presidency has been a joke since Election Night in November 2000.

MschfMayhemSoap

MschfMayhemSoap

Phoenix, AZ
April 2006

JUL 15, 2006 05:44 PM

photoline said:
The Bush presidency has been a joke since Election Night in November 2000.



YOu mean when he got up on Stage and Dance with Ricky Martin?

stainedecho

stainedecho

Bloomington, IN
September 2005

JUL 15, 2006 06:43 PM

highcontrast said:
bush clearly has no idea what is going on in iraq.

none.



Either that or he hopes the rest of the world is stupid enough to believe the lies he tells them.

_Pauly_

_Pauly_

United Kingdom
June 2004

JUL 15, 2006 07:59 PM

I'm not a fan of any politician but Putin's little quip was pure quality lol.

quagmirething

quagmirething

I'm lost
June 2005

JUL 15, 2006 08:15 PM

Putin did much the same to Blair, on the subject of corruption. There's actually a tiny chance of Blair being arrested for, the rather obscure crime of, the selling of honors. At the end of the day, Putin needs to do it this way because there's a lot he's open to criticism on.

DanTheGreater

DanTheGreater

Anacortes, WA
November 2004

JUL 15, 2006 09:04 PM

FearTheReaper said:


"I talked about my desire to promote institutional change in parts of the world, like Iraq where there's a free press and free religion, and I told him that a lot of people in our country would hope that Russia would do the same."


Nice. Deluded, uninformed and insulting all in one sentence. Here are some examples of the freedom of religion that has occurred in Iraq in the last week:



Sooooo...propmoting freedom of the press and freedom of religion is a bad thing....?

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JUL 15, 2006 09:08 PM

DanTheGreater said:

FearTheReaper said:


"I talked about my desire to promote institutional change in parts of the world, like Iraq where there's a free press and free religion, and I told him that a lot of people in our country would hope that Russia would do the same."


Nice. Deluded, uninformed and insulting all in one sentence. Here are some examples of the freedom of religion that has occurred in Iraq in the last week:



Sooooo...propmoting freedom of the press and freedom of religion is a bad thing....?



And there are no examples in the entire world of democracies that adhere to those principles better than than Iraq?

DanTheGreater

DanTheGreater

Anacortes, WA
November 2004

JUL 15, 2006 09:11 PM

Subrosa said:

DanTheGreater said:

FearTheReaper said:


"I talked about my desire to promote institutional change in parts of the world, like Iraq where there's a free press and free religion, and I told him that a lot of people in our country would hope that Russia would do the same."


Nice. Deluded, uninformed and insulting all in one sentence. Here are some examples of the freedom of religion that has occurred in Iraq in the last week:



Sooooo...propmoting freedom of the press and freedom of religion is a bad thing....?



And there are no examples in the entire world of democracies that adhere to those principles better than than Iraq?



Sure there are: the USA.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JUL 15, 2006 09:18 PM

DanTheGreater said:

Subrosa said:

DanTheGreater said:

FearTheReaper said:


"I talked about my desire to promote institutional change in parts of the world, like Iraq where there's a free press and free religion, and I told him that a lot of people in our country would hope that Russia would do the same."


Nice. Deluded, uninformed and insulting all in one sentence. Here are some examples of the freedom of religion that has occurred in Iraq in the last week:



Sooooo...propmoting freedom of the press and freedom of religion is a bad thing....?



And there are no examples in the entire world of democracies that adhere to those principles better than than Iraq?



Sure there are: the USA.


Absolutely. Of course, there are also dozens and dozens of others. Any one of which would have been a better comparison for Bush to make than Iraq, which is an unmitigated clusterfuck and not especially in a position to be promoting either core value effectively (as shown in the examples in FTR's original post).

In other words, it's not the fact that Bush was touting freedom of speech and freedom of religion to foriegn soveriengns that makes him look stupid. It's the example he chose to do so. No one but a total mouth-breathing neathderthal would hold Iraq aloft as the paragon of freedom in this day and age.

ill_will

ill_will

Detroit, MI
September 2004

JUL 15, 2006 09:31 PM

Subrosa said:

DanTheGreater said:

Subrosa said:

DanTheGreater said:

Sooooo...propmoting freedom of the press and freedom of religion is a bad thing....?



And there are no examples in the entire world of democracies that adhere to those principles better than than Iraq?



Sure there are: the USA.


Absolutely. Of course, there are also dozens and dozens of others. Any one of which would have been a better comparison for Bush to make than Iraq, which is an unmitigated clusterfuck and not especially in a position to be promoting either core value effectively (as shown in the examples in FTR's original post).

In other words, it's not the fact that Bush was touting freedom of speech and freedom of religion to foriegn soveriengns that makes him look stupid. It's the example he chose to do so. No one but a total mouth-breathing neathderthal would hold Iraq aloft as the paragon of freedom in this day and age.



Wow! I find it suprising that you'd have to explain your original post.

DanTheGreater

DanTheGreater

Anacortes, WA
November 2004

JUL 15, 2006 09:40 PM

Subrosa said:
Absolutely. Of course, there are also dozens and dozens of others. Any one of which would have been a better comparison for Bush to make than Iraq, which is an unmitigated clusterfuck and not especially in a position to be promoting either core value effectively (as shown in the examples in FTR's original post).

In other words, it's not the fact that Bush was touting freedom of speech and freedom of religion to foriegn soveriengns that makes him look stupid. It's the example he chose to do so. No one but a total mouth-breathing neathderthal would hold Iraq aloft as the paragon of freedom in this day and age.



I understand your point but look at history for a minute. It took TEN YEARS to stop the nazi insurgency in post WW II Germany. And how long after that before Germany became a proper democracy? This stuff is never easy.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JUL 15, 2006 09:56 PM

DanTheGreater said:

Subrosa said:
Absolutely. Of course, there are also dozens and dozens of others. Any one of which would have been a better comparison for Bush to make than Iraq, which is an unmitigated clusterfuck and not especially in a position to be promoting either core value effectively (as shown in the examples in FTR's original post).

In other words, it's not the fact that Bush was touting freedom of speech and freedom of religion to foriegn soveriengns that makes him look stupid. It's the example he chose to do so. No one but a total mouth-breathing neathderthal would hold Iraq aloft as the paragon of freedom in this day and age.



I understand your point but look at history for a minute. It took TEN YEARS to stop the nazi insurgency in post WW II Germany. And how long after that before Germany became a proper democracy? This stuff is never easy.



And how exactly does that make Iraq a good example of a government that upholds the principles of freedom of speech and religion in modern society?

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUL 15, 2006 09:57 PM

DanTheGreater said:

Subrosa said:
Absolutely. Of course, there are also dozens and dozens of others. Any one of which would have been a better comparison for Bush to make than Iraq, which is an unmitigated clusterfuck and not especially in a position to be promoting either core value effectively (as shown in the examples in FTR's original post).

In other words, it's not the fact that Bush was touting freedom of speech and freedom of religion to foriegn soveriengns that makes him look stupid. It's the example he chose to do so. No one but a total mouth-breathing neathderthal would hold Iraq aloft as the paragon of freedom in this day and age.



I understand your point but look at history for a minute. It took TEN YEARS to stop the nazi insurgency in post WW II Germany. And how long after that before Germany became a proper democracy? This stuff is never easy.


uh, wasnt germany ALWAYS a democracy? just because theyre an invading and conquering democracy doesnt invalidate the term democracy.

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