Here we go.
I like Nazis. They make great villains. It's always fun to watch Indiana Jones kick their ass and foil their plans. That's all they were while I was growing up, movie villains. Noone ever explained the holocaust to me. Even in school, we never went past the first great war. Schindler's List was my teacher, and I think I should have been taught sooner.
So of course now I know better, and slaughtering terrified Nazis in Bloodrayne had a sort of kharmic justice element. Watching a stormtrooper run around screaming because I just took his arm off remains one of the most entertaining moments of my gaming experience. It's right up there with the first time I ever got to blast TIE fighters.
I never got the impression that Nana was a Neo-Nazi. I never got the sense that she was promoting a Nazi agenda; or that she hated anyone, let alone Jews; or that she was talent-spotting for the Fourth Reich. Maybe it's just because she just couldn't talk about it here. Despite that, she was open and honest about her Nazi fetish from the start. I don't really get it, but I am aware that Hitler once employed a good tailor, and that people with dark tastes get off on wearing the uniforms.
Nana explained that the Nazi pin was symbolic of... decadence and debauchery, was it? I didn't know it's history or Nazi association until someone pointed it out, but it didn't surprise me. I think people were so quick to complain that they never tried to figure out why it was included, but as I was falling asleep last night I think I figured it out: she was wearing it from the start. She was already decadent and debauched. If she hadn't been drugged it wouldn't have been rape, and her only regret afterwards is that she didn't get to enjoy the experience. It's a play on the whole rape fantasy thing.
I consider the reaction to the Nazi emblem to be a knee-jerk reaction.
Whenever someone made a reference to the child aspect I wanted to reply with "Look, tits!" I'd rather see a slut dress up as a little girl than a little girl dress up as a slut. Unfortunately, I don't get much choice when I go out in public - some parents really deserve to be smacked over the head - but that wasn't even what Nana was doing. The dress was a reference to some Japanese movie I've never seen; and as I understand it, that girl had tits too. In my book, fucking children involves preteens, and that wasn't it. Jailbait, definitely, but I don't think anyone can accuse her of advocating paedophilia.
It's all about the 'rape.'
I have never been sexually assaulted or raped. The worst I ever got was a wire coat-hanger across my ass for... I forget, something involving rollerskates after dark. I can only guess how traumatic the experience can be, at whatever age. I'm tempted to join that group someone mentioned, rape survivors or something, so I can get a better perspective on it... but not having gone through it myself, I automatically doubt I'd be allowed to join.
It surprises me that rape victims would, later on, get naked on the internet; or associate with girls who do. I wonder why, and the only answer I've come up with is this: something was taken away from them, and now they're getting it back.
So, we come back to the ill-fated set. Why was I not offended by it? Because I've never been raped? Because I already knew it was Nana's fantasy? Because I'm a colossal pervert? I'm still not sure, so I'm inclined to think it's all of the above. I'm not going to apologise to everyone that was offended, for not being offended myself. But I understand why those who automatically found the implied rape offensive, were offended.
I saved my favourite shots from the set when I began to suspect that SG would lose too much money if they didn't pull it. Looking at it now, I'm not seeing what the 'after' sequence has to do with the 'before.' I'm starting to agree with whoever first suggested that leaving out the first dozen shots might have been a good idea. I wonder if that would have been considered art. The photography itself certainly didn't suck.
Nana was one of the most gorgeous girls on this site. She has her fetishes and fantasies and faults, as do we all. She fulfilled something personal shooting the set, which is fine; it was shared with us here, which apparently is not.
SG bought the set. They put it up. They didn't include a warning. They didn't edit it. Someone should probably be fired for not doing their job properly. And now the set is gone... I don't call it censorship. I call it trying to avoid getting sued for emotional damage.
In the end I guess I'm against the set. But I'm not against Nana.
I like Nazis. They make great villains. It's always fun to watch Indiana Jones kick their ass and foil their plans. That's all they were while I was growing up, movie villains. Noone ever explained the holocaust to me. Even in school, we never went past the first great war. Schindler's List was my teacher, and I think I should have been taught sooner.
So of course now I know better, and slaughtering terrified Nazis in Bloodrayne had a sort of kharmic justice element. Watching a stormtrooper run around screaming because I just took his arm off remains one of the most entertaining moments of my gaming experience. It's right up there with the first time I ever got to blast TIE fighters.
I never got the impression that Nana was a Neo-Nazi. I never got the sense that she was promoting a Nazi agenda; or that she hated anyone, let alone Jews; or that she was talent-spotting for the Fourth Reich. Maybe it's just because she just couldn't talk about it here. Despite that, she was open and honest about her Nazi fetish from the start. I don't really get it, but I am aware that Hitler once employed a good tailor, and that people with dark tastes get off on wearing the uniforms.
Nana explained that the Nazi pin was symbolic of... decadence and debauchery, was it? I didn't know it's history or Nazi association until someone pointed it out, but it didn't surprise me. I think people were so quick to complain that they never tried to figure out why it was included, but as I was falling asleep last night I think I figured it out: she was wearing it from the start. She was already decadent and debauched. If she hadn't been drugged it wouldn't have been rape, and her only regret afterwards is that she didn't get to enjoy the experience. It's a play on the whole rape fantasy thing.
I consider the reaction to the Nazi emblem to be a knee-jerk reaction.
Whenever someone made a reference to the child aspect I wanted to reply with "Look, tits!" I'd rather see a slut dress up as a little girl than a little girl dress up as a slut. Unfortunately, I don't get much choice when I go out in public - some parents really deserve to be smacked over the head - but that wasn't even what Nana was doing. The dress was a reference to some Japanese movie I've never seen; and as I understand it, that girl had tits too. In my book, fucking children involves preteens, and that wasn't it. Jailbait, definitely, but I don't think anyone can accuse her of advocating paedophilia.
It's all about the 'rape.'
I have never been sexually assaulted or raped. The worst I ever got was a wire coat-hanger across my ass for... I forget, something involving rollerskates after dark. I can only guess how traumatic the experience can be, at whatever age. I'm tempted to join that group someone mentioned, rape survivors or something, so I can get a better perspective on it... but not having gone through it myself, I automatically doubt I'd be allowed to join.
It surprises me that rape victims would, later on, get naked on the internet; or associate with girls who do. I wonder why, and the only answer I've come up with is this: something was taken away from them, and now they're getting it back.
So, we come back to the ill-fated set. Why was I not offended by it? Because I've never been raped? Because I already knew it was Nana's fantasy? Because I'm a colossal pervert? I'm still not sure, so I'm inclined to think it's all of the above. I'm not going to apologise to everyone that was offended, for not being offended myself. But I understand why those who automatically found the implied rape offensive, were offended.
I saved my favourite shots from the set when I began to suspect that SG would lose too much money if they didn't pull it. Looking at it now, I'm not seeing what the 'after' sequence has to do with the 'before.' I'm starting to agree with whoever first suggested that leaving out the first dozen shots might have been a good idea. I wonder if that would have been considered art. The photography itself certainly didn't suck.
Nana was one of the most gorgeous girls on this site. She has her fetishes and fantasies and faults, as do we all. She fulfilled something personal shooting the set, which is fine; it was shared with us here, which apparently is not.
SG bought the set. They put it up. They didn't include a warning. They didn't edit it. Someone should probably be fired for not doing their job properly. And now the set is gone... I don't call it censorship. I call it trying to avoid getting sued for emotional damage.
In the end I guess I'm against the set. But I'm not against Nana.
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riae:
Kiwi??no... but flavor like kiwi...
savage:
MMMMmmm stew and dumplings - I love the winter
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