so yes, i went with the 4 point knees....and it was great..everybody had fun and went up smoothly...so thanks to everybody that anwered my little poll....i hurt today thou.not as bad as yesterday,i felt so old.it took all of my energy that night..but it was worth it, i just wish we got there earlier...so yeah i'll put some pics up in the next couple of days...bye
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