Authors and researchers Jennifer Axen and Leigh Phillips uncovered an untapped gold mine of real-world beauty technique: strippers and erotic dancers. The pair traveled the country interviewing women who make their livings in the nude in order to find out their secrets for looking great naked. The result? The Stripper's Guide to Looking Great Naked: a fun, informative, and easy-to-use manual for real women who want to look as sexy as strippers do when they take off their clothes:
Keith Daniels:You mention in the beginning of the book that you were doing research for a documentary film when you kind of stumbled upon this subject. What was the film?
Jennifer Axen: The film was a documentary that a friend was doing on the topic of "people that are doing weird and wild things for money," and two of the subjects were actually strippers that were working at a club in San Francisco called "The Hungry Eye". Since Leigh and I both have a background in research we thought it'd be fun to tag along and help out with the shoot, and the dancers were really friendly to us. They invited us to come chat with them in their dressing room, and as we were sitting, listening to them chat about boyfriends and money, and parties and everything, the most interesting information we heard exchanged were all these great, inside, naked beauty tips. After we had that [experience], we felt like we really stumbled into this goldmine of information. So, since we both have experience in research and writing, we just decided to make a go of it and write a book.
KD: Leigh, you actually have a Master's Degree in Women's Studies. Do you feel like you learned more from doing this type of research than you may have learned in school?
Leigh Phillips: That's an interesting question. I think one of the things I focused on in school, and one of the things we focused on in the book, is how those kind of ideas, those kind of things, reflect on the lives of real women. Yeah, I think that's something that can be avoided at an academic level, but that was kind of the focus of my research anyway for my Master's Degree -- how ideas are disseminated to everyday women -- who may not have Master's Degrees in Women's Studies. The same with the book; we met a lot of real women, and that's why we felt like interviewing dancers and strippers was perfect for this subject, because they're not models, they're not actresses, and they're not perfect, yet they have this confidence with which they can go out and make a living by being comfortable being naked. Yet, they still have the same hangups regular women have, in terms of cellulite, having small boobs, or big boobs, those things that make you feel less than perfect. They're very candid about dealing with those things, and also about the fact that those kind of hangups aren't what sexiness is. So, that was kind of a really great discovery we would not have made without talking to so many real women.
KD: Is there any one thing that women in that line of work tend to have in common?
JA: Confidence. Although we had a little bit of a glimpse into that the first night that we sort of came up with this idea, I think through our research what we were just struck by was this unbelievable confidence in their own bodies that simply comes from spending so much time naked. [Laughs] I think that's the thing that we really marveled at. In a couple of instances, we were at clubs where the women who were making the most money, or getting the most attention, were also the ones who seemed to embody that confidence. It seemed like they had this very devil-may-care attitude, and that's what drew in customers. They also seemed like they were having fun, so it was sort of this spirit that the really successful dancers we saw embodied, that quality. The woman who wrote our introduction, Brynne Dearie, she was a dancer in Chicago, she definitely brimmed with that kind of enthusiasm and confidence, and just seemed like she was having fun with it, and that's part of the reason why she's so successful.
KD: I know most of your research was focused on the States, but do you think we have more hangups about being naked here than maybe some other Western countries do?
LP: Actually, I think it depends on what country you're talking about. I'm from England, and I don't think anyone has any more hangups about anything than the British. [Laughs] There's obviously a huge emphasis here on celebrity, which I don't think you find so much in other countries, and being perfect. That's something that I think is definitely shoved down the throat of American women all the time, and you don't find that so much in other European countries, especially France, Spain, and England. People [in those countries] do tend to have a bit more confidence, and aren't so hung up about exposing their bodies, because exposing the body is more normal. I mean, I think this country is quite conservative, these are conservative times, and I think that is having an effect on people. But I think people are ready to get over it. That's something that people have felt held back by, and hopefully, with books like The Stripper's Guide, people can learn that those people who are models are really exceptional people: that's not everyday, that's not hardly anyone. That's what we were trying to get at with this book: confidence, and not having those hangups that are kind of forced down your throat all the time.
KD: What sort of woman do you envision as the audience for this book?
JA: Well, we really wrote this book with real women in mind, and I think the aim was for it to be, from the outside, to reflect what we were seeing at those clubs that we went to, which was, within a certain parameter, diversity of age. Of course, like other performance professions, there definitely is a cap, in terms of you don't see a lot of strippers past the age of forty. However, all the things that we learned can translate to any stage of life. In the last chapter of the book, there are tips, for example, for a woman "getting back into the game" of dating -- I'm picturing a woman that's maybe been married and divorced, and is finally getting back out there -- and I think we have some really great tips on how to revive that sense of sexiness that this woman may have had in her younger years, but now needs to kind of capture again. Even though it isn't a magical silver bullet, there isn't one product that can do that, I think the greatest thing about this book is how instantaneous it is: we're not suggesting people go on diets, there's not an intense physical training program they have to do, the greatest part of this book is that it taps what women naturally have, no matter what age.
KD: One of the things I've noticed about women, since being married, is that, a lot of times, women, or at least my wife, do things to feel sexy for themselves. She might buy a new dress, or get some new makeup, and it's not even to show-off for me, it just makes her feel better. Do you think that applies to most women?
LP: I absolutely think that applies to most women, and I also think that's how it should be. Obviously, looking good for your partner is a huge bonus in many ways, but if you don't feel good about yourself, you're not really going to achieve that. There's a part in the book about "Why is it that when you go for a job interview, you also wear your nicest underwear?" The interviewer should not be seeing your underwear, [Laughs] but there's something about that that makes you feel more confident. Treating yourself, buying new lipstick, having a new hairstyle, and being able to look in the mirror and think "I look really great" does help you feel great. It's kind of a mutual relationship. You have to feel good about yourself, and that makes you want to do those things to help you look better and feel more confident.
KD: I actually think one of the quintessential lines of the book is when one of the dancers you interviewed says "When you look sexy, you feel sexy." That kind of turns around what you usually hear about having to have the confidence first. It seems like you would actually advise people to try to look sexy, and then they'll feel sexy.
JA: Well, it's like that expression: "Smile until the rest of you catches on." There is something to be said for doing what you need to do to look sexy in order to feel sexy. As Leigh pointed out, it's kind of that great infinite logic of one begets the other begets the other.
KD: This is kind of off-topic, but what did you learn about strip clubs and that whole culture while you were traveling around to so many? Did you get to where you could tell a good club from the outside by the end of it?
LP: We learned so much, and it was completely fascinating. Obviously, the book is about looking great naked, it's not about stripping as an industry, or strip clubs, so we didn't include a lot of those observations in the book. At first, we were a little nervous and dubious, but by the end of it we were just like "Eh, she needs to change that." We'd become experts on the subject, we thought. I think what we felt, as women, made a good strip club might be slightly different than a male audience. We tended to like the smaller clubs: they felt more fun to us, a little less corporate. You tended to see better stage performances [at smaller clubs], which is interesting to us. We like to watch the moves. We saw crazy pole tricks we thought were really great. Anything that had an unusual routine, style, or costume, that really interested us. It was very interesting, as well, observing the other people, and how the other customers and the managers of clubs reacted to us. Some people were really friendly and wanted to chat to you, other people werent so friendly and were kind of like What are you doing in here? This is ours. We discovered in Vegas that unescorted women are not allowed in strip clubs, which we didnt know.
KD: Did they give a reason for that?
LP: They didnt give an actual reason. Were guessing it might have something to do with prostitution, but we dont know. That was a funny night, actually. We had a cab driver pick us up in Vegas, and we said, OK, were in Vegas. Take us to a strip club, and he said, You cant go to a strip club. We said What do you mean? and he said Well, you cant go by yourself. So we tried, I think, three or four, and eventually one of them said You guys are just in here to have a good time, right? and we said Well, yeah, and then they let us in. But we were declined at several, which we did not expect, because its Vegas, yknow, the strip capital of the world. We had a really good time. We met some really, really great people, and it was a real eye-opening experience for us. I think theres definitely glimpses into that in the book, and I think a lot of women will want to know that. Definitely, our female friends would ask us with a lot of interest to take them with us on our trips. People want to know whats going on behind those flaps.
KD: Do you feel pressure to perform now that youve literally written the book on looking great naked?
JA: [Laughs] Thats the dreaded question. Thats why Im so happy with a phone interview. [Laughs] I mean, now that weve become sort of the self-proclaimed experts on this -- and we certainly have racked enough hours in strip clubs and talking to dancers to call ourselves experts -- there is a little bit of pressure to sort of incorporate these tips in our own lives. Certainly Leigh and I have tried out... We had one night where we had girlfriends over, it was basically like big night on the town and slumber party afterward, and we tried out the tricks ourselves that we had learned from the dancers. We made our friends guinea pigs, trying them out, but I think that Leigh and I have both found a couple of tips that we like.
LP: Yeah, exactly.
JA: ...and we use them in everyday life. It has had that effect, its like everything else, its like even if you know that it isnt something most of the world can see, even if your boyfriend or husband or partner is the only audience, it speaks to the point that we were talking about earlier: it gives you that glow of confidence, just knowing that somethings a little bit different about you today; youve got a new bronzer, or a new hairstyle thats more flattering to your physique.
KD: One of the things I was thinking when I was reading the book is that I probably wouldnt even notice most of these things. Is a lot of this attention to detail lost on men?
LP: Thats when you go out on the town. [Laughs] I think it plays back into that whole thing about how men might not notice details [as] much as they should, but they will notice if their partner is particularly happy, or more in the mood for, yknow, having a good time, wants to turn off the TV, yknow, those kind of things. I think the small details can create a whole, which is what will be noticed.
KD: A lot of what a stripper does is a very short-term illusion. What advice would you give someone on looking great long-term, over the course of a relationship?
JA: I would just say that giving an eye to this part of ones self is really important. In life, its really easy to get caught up in work, and the dozens and dozens of things and responsibilities that everybody has to do: going to Fed-Ex to pick up something, going to the grocery store, all those things that are probably empirically un-sexy. I think just keeping yourself in the mindset of this sort of confidence and sexy spirit is really important in terms of the longevity of a partnership, or marriage, or even just in terms of self-confidence. So whether that means... We have an illustration I love in the book of a woman vacuuming naked, just certain things like that, I think its a fun reminder that were all obviously sexual creatures, and even though theres a lot of layers of life that can shroud that, its important to get back in and remember the things that make you feel great about yourself.
LP: I would just say, briefly, to add to that, Im not a wife or mother, but just being kind of the whole woman, and what that means. Creating a space for yourself, keeping your bedroom a bedroom for grown-up people, and not a toy-chest, reminding yourself that you are a whole person, and that that role goes beyond the domestic.
KD: Do you think its a sign of feminist progress that a woman could want to look like a stripper without feeling that theres a negative connotation to that?
LP: I think its a sign of progress that women are allowed to celebrate their sexual side in a way that feels good for them, whether or not thats stripping, or whether its something completely different like dancing in a night-club, or getting a bikini wax. Just that people can choose what feels good for them and leave the things that dont reflect well for them, and that they can also, I dont know, celebrate those sides of themselves, and not wait for the man to be the one that defines what it is to be sexy or sexual.
KD: What would you say is the most common beauty mistake women make?
JA: I would say that something that really opened our eyes, that we saw in strip clubs, that could really have a great place in the outside world, is just the idea of not covering up what you think is a flaw. For example, its May, swimsuit season is around the corner. That always produces a certain amount of anxiety in women. I was taking a look at swimsuits recently, and theres the cover-ups, you go to the beach and you see people wearing t-shirts to cover themselves, and, as we say in the book, nothing quite screams out so badly as a t-shirt over your swimsuit, I hate myself, and thats uglier than any swimsuit you could possibly pick out. So, I think, one of things that was most enlightening to us is that when you have a sense of ownership over your body, and youre actually flaunting it, that is one of the most alluring traits in a woman. There was a club in San Francisco where we noticed that one dancer was very conventionally attractive, and another was not as conventionally attractive: a little heavier-set, definite cellulite, but she just worked the room. She made eye contact, she was friendly and smiling, and the night we were there she made more tips than any other dancer, and certainly more than the sort of girl next door that we had seen who was really attractive and skinny. Its just that sense of comfort in your own skin, and I think that really goes so far.
KD: I think thats a great place to wrap it up. Anything else youd like to add?
JA: Buy the book! [Laughs]
LP: [Laughs] Id just like to reiterate the fact that [the book] shows things that anyone can do. You dont have to be an expert, you dont have to be a makeup artist, stylist, or dancer. These are just quick fixes that anyone can do, but it focuses on just those aspects of having a good time and feeling good about yourself.
The Stripper's Guide to Looking Great Naked is on bookshelves now, and is a great purchase for gals who want to look like a million bucks naked even if they're not looking for tips.
Keith Daniels:You mention in the beginning of the book that you were doing research for a documentary film when you kind of stumbled upon this subject. What was the film?
Jennifer Axen: The film was a documentary that a friend was doing on the topic of "people that are doing weird and wild things for money," and two of the subjects were actually strippers that were working at a club in San Francisco called "The Hungry Eye". Since Leigh and I both have a background in research we thought it'd be fun to tag along and help out with the shoot, and the dancers were really friendly to us. They invited us to come chat with them in their dressing room, and as we were sitting, listening to them chat about boyfriends and money, and parties and everything, the most interesting information we heard exchanged were all these great, inside, naked beauty tips. After we had that [experience], we felt like we really stumbled into this goldmine of information. So, since we both have experience in research and writing, we just decided to make a go of it and write a book.
KD: Leigh, you actually have a Master's Degree in Women's Studies. Do you feel like you learned more from doing this type of research than you may have learned in school?
Leigh Phillips: That's an interesting question. I think one of the things I focused on in school, and one of the things we focused on in the book, is how those kind of ideas, those kind of things, reflect on the lives of real women. Yeah, I think that's something that can be avoided at an academic level, but that was kind of the focus of my research anyway for my Master's Degree -- how ideas are disseminated to everyday women -- who may not have Master's Degrees in Women's Studies. The same with the book; we met a lot of real women, and that's why we felt like interviewing dancers and strippers was perfect for this subject, because they're not models, they're not actresses, and they're not perfect, yet they have this confidence with which they can go out and make a living by being comfortable being naked. Yet, they still have the same hangups regular women have, in terms of cellulite, having small boobs, or big boobs, those things that make you feel less than perfect. They're very candid about dealing with those things, and also about the fact that those kind of hangups aren't what sexiness is. So, that was kind of a really great discovery we would not have made without talking to so many real women.
KD: Is there any one thing that women in that line of work tend to have in common?
JA: Confidence. Although we had a little bit of a glimpse into that the first night that we sort of came up with this idea, I think through our research what we were just struck by was this unbelievable confidence in their own bodies that simply comes from spending so much time naked. [Laughs] I think that's the thing that we really marveled at. In a couple of instances, we were at clubs where the women who were making the most money, or getting the most attention, were also the ones who seemed to embody that confidence. It seemed like they had this very devil-may-care attitude, and that's what drew in customers. They also seemed like they were having fun, so it was sort of this spirit that the really successful dancers we saw embodied, that quality. The woman who wrote our introduction, Brynne Dearie, she was a dancer in Chicago, she definitely brimmed with that kind of enthusiasm and confidence, and just seemed like she was having fun with it, and that's part of the reason why she's so successful.
KD: I know most of your research was focused on the States, but do you think we have more hangups about being naked here than maybe some other Western countries do?
LP: Actually, I think it depends on what country you're talking about. I'm from England, and I don't think anyone has any more hangups about anything than the British. [Laughs] There's obviously a huge emphasis here on celebrity, which I don't think you find so much in other countries, and being perfect. That's something that I think is definitely shoved down the throat of American women all the time, and you don't find that so much in other European countries, especially France, Spain, and England. People [in those countries] do tend to have a bit more confidence, and aren't so hung up about exposing their bodies, because exposing the body is more normal. I mean, I think this country is quite conservative, these are conservative times, and I think that is having an effect on people. But I think people are ready to get over it. That's something that people have felt held back by, and hopefully, with books like The Stripper's Guide, people can learn that those people who are models are really exceptional people: that's not everyday, that's not hardly anyone. That's what we were trying to get at with this book: confidence, and not having those hangups that are kind of forced down your throat all the time.
KD: What sort of woman do you envision as the audience for this book?
JA: Well, we really wrote this book with real women in mind, and I think the aim was for it to be, from the outside, to reflect what we were seeing at those clubs that we went to, which was, within a certain parameter, diversity of age. Of course, like other performance professions, there definitely is a cap, in terms of you don't see a lot of strippers past the age of forty. However, all the things that we learned can translate to any stage of life. In the last chapter of the book, there are tips, for example, for a woman "getting back into the game" of dating -- I'm picturing a woman that's maybe been married and divorced, and is finally getting back out there -- and I think we have some really great tips on how to revive that sense of sexiness that this woman may have had in her younger years, but now needs to kind of capture again. Even though it isn't a magical silver bullet, there isn't one product that can do that, I think the greatest thing about this book is how instantaneous it is: we're not suggesting people go on diets, there's not an intense physical training program they have to do, the greatest part of this book is that it taps what women naturally have, no matter what age.
KD: One of the things I've noticed about women, since being married, is that, a lot of times, women, or at least my wife, do things to feel sexy for themselves. She might buy a new dress, or get some new makeup, and it's not even to show-off for me, it just makes her feel better. Do you think that applies to most women?
LP: I absolutely think that applies to most women, and I also think that's how it should be. Obviously, looking good for your partner is a huge bonus in many ways, but if you don't feel good about yourself, you're not really going to achieve that. There's a part in the book about "Why is it that when you go for a job interview, you also wear your nicest underwear?" The interviewer should not be seeing your underwear, [Laughs] but there's something about that that makes you feel more confident. Treating yourself, buying new lipstick, having a new hairstyle, and being able to look in the mirror and think "I look really great" does help you feel great. It's kind of a mutual relationship. You have to feel good about yourself, and that makes you want to do those things to help you look better and feel more confident.
KD: I actually think one of the quintessential lines of the book is when one of the dancers you interviewed says "When you look sexy, you feel sexy." That kind of turns around what you usually hear about having to have the confidence first. It seems like you would actually advise people to try to look sexy, and then they'll feel sexy.
JA: Well, it's like that expression: "Smile until the rest of you catches on." There is something to be said for doing what you need to do to look sexy in order to feel sexy. As Leigh pointed out, it's kind of that great infinite logic of one begets the other begets the other.
KD: This is kind of off-topic, but what did you learn about strip clubs and that whole culture while you were traveling around to so many? Did you get to where you could tell a good club from the outside by the end of it?
LP: We learned so much, and it was completely fascinating. Obviously, the book is about looking great naked, it's not about stripping as an industry, or strip clubs, so we didn't include a lot of those observations in the book. At first, we were a little nervous and dubious, but by the end of it we were just like "Eh, she needs to change that." We'd become experts on the subject, we thought. I think what we felt, as women, made a good strip club might be slightly different than a male audience. We tended to like the smaller clubs: they felt more fun to us, a little less corporate. You tended to see better stage performances [at smaller clubs], which is interesting to us. We like to watch the moves. We saw crazy pole tricks we thought were really great. Anything that had an unusual routine, style, or costume, that really interested us. It was very interesting, as well, observing the other people, and how the other customers and the managers of clubs reacted to us. Some people were really friendly and wanted to chat to you, other people werent so friendly and were kind of like What are you doing in here? This is ours. We discovered in Vegas that unescorted women are not allowed in strip clubs, which we didnt know.
KD: Did they give a reason for that?
LP: They didnt give an actual reason. Were guessing it might have something to do with prostitution, but we dont know. That was a funny night, actually. We had a cab driver pick us up in Vegas, and we said, OK, were in Vegas. Take us to a strip club, and he said, You cant go to a strip club. We said What do you mean? and he said Well, you cant go by yourself. So we tried, I think, three or four, and eventually one of them said You guys are just in here to have a good time, right? and we said Well, yeah, and then they let us in. But we were declined at several, which we did not expect, because its Vegas, yknow, the strip capital of the world. We had a really good time. We met some really, really great people, and it was a real eye-opening experience for us. I think theres definitely glimpses into that in the book, and I think a lot of women will want to know that. Definitely, our female friends would ask us with a lot of interest to take them with us on our trips. People want to know whats going on behind those flaps.
KD: Do you feel pressure to perform now that youve literally written the book on looking great naked?
JA: [Laughs] Thats the dreaded question. Thats why Im so happy with a phone interview. [Laughs] I mean, now that weve become sort of the self-proclaimed experts on this -- and we certainly have racked enough hours in strip clubs and talking to dancers to call ourselves experts -- there is a little bit of pressure to sort of incorporate these tips in our own lives. Certainly Leigh and I have tried out... We had one night where we had girlfriends over, it was basically like big night on the town and slumber party afterward, and we tried out the tricks ourselves that we had learned from the dancers. We made our friends guinea pigs, trying them out, but I think that Leigh and I have both found a couple of tips that we like.
LP: Yeah, exactly.
JA: ...and we use them in everyday life. It has had that effect, its like everything else, its like even if you know that it isnt something most of the world can see, even if your boyfriend or husband or partner is the only audience, it speaks to the point that we were talking about earlier: it gives you that glow of confidence, just knowing that somethings a little bit different about you today; youve got a new bronzer, or a new hairstyle thats more flattering to your physique.
KD: One of the things I was thinking when I was reading the book is that I probably wouldnt even notice most of these things. Is a lot of this attention to detail lost on men?
LP: Thats when you go out on the town. [Laughs] I think it plays back into that whole thing about how men might not notice details [as] much as they should, but they will notice if their partner is particularly happy, or more in the mood for, yknow, having a good time, wants to turn off the TV, yknow, those kind of things. I think the small details can create a whole, which is what will be noticed.
KD: A lot of what a stripper does is a very short-term illusion. What advice would you give someone on looking great long-term, over the course of a relationship?
JA: I would just say that giving an eye to this part of ones self is really important. In life, its really easy to get caught up in work, and the dozens and dozens of things and responsibilities that everybody has to do: going to Fed-Ex to pick up something, going to the grocery store, all those things that are probably empirically un-sexy. I think just keeping yourself in the mindset of this sort of confidence and sexy spirit is really important in terms of the longevity of a partnership, or marriage, or even just in terms of self-confidence. So whether that means... We have an illustration I love in the book of a woman vacuuming naked, just certain things like that, I think its a fun reminder that were all obviously sexual creatures, and even though theres a lot of layers of life that can shroud that, its important to get back in and remember the things that make you feel great about yourself.
LP: I would just say, briefly, to add to that, Im not a wife or mother, but just being kind of the whole woman, and what that means. Creating a space for yourself, keeping your bedroom a bedroom for grown-up people, and not a toy-chest, reminding yourself that you are a whole person, and that that role goes beyond the domestic.
KD: Do you think its a sign of feminist progress that a woman could want to look like a stripper without feeling that theres a negative connotation to that?
LP: I think its a sign of progress that women are allowed to celebrate their sexual side in a way that feels good for them, whether or not thats stripping, or whether its something completely different like dancing in a night-club, or getting a bikini wax. Just that people can choose what feels good for them and leave the things that dont reflect well for them, and that they can also, I dont know, celebrate those sides of themselves, and not wait for the man to be the one that defines what it is to be sexy or sexual.
KD: What would you say is the most common beauty mistake women make?
JA: I would say that something that really opened our eyes, that we saw in strip clubs, that could really have a great place in the outside world, is just the idea of not covering up what you think is a flaw. For example, its May, swimsuit season is around the corner. That always produces a certain amount of anxiety in women. I was taking a look at swimsuits recently, and theres the cover-ups, you go to the beach and you see people wearing t-shirts to cover themselves, and, as we say in the book, nothing quite screams out so badly as a t-shirt over your swimsuit, I hate myself, and thats uglier than any swimsuit you could possibly pick out. So, I think, one of things that was most enlightening to us is that when you have a sense of ownership over your body, and youre actually flaunting it, that is one of the most alluring traits in a woman. There was a club in San Francisco where we noticed that one dancer was very conventionally attractive, and another was not as conventionally attractive: a little heavier-set, definite cellulite, but she just worked the room. She made eye contact, she was friendly and smiling, and the night we were there she made more tips than any other dancer, and certainly more than the sort of girl next door that we had seen who was really attractive and skinny. Its just that sense of comfort in your own skin, and I think that really goes so far.
KD: I think thats a great place to wrap it up. Anything else youd like to add?
JA: Buy the book! [Laughs]
LP: [Laughs] Id just like to reiterate the fact that [the book] shows things that anyone can do. You dont have to be an expert, you dont have to be a makeup artist, stylist, or dancer. These are just quick fixes that anyone can do, but it focuses on just those aspects of having a good time and feeling good about yourself.
The Stripper's Guide to Looking Great Naked is on bookshelves now, and is a great purchase for gals who want to look like a million bucks naked even if they're not looking for tips.
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cherrysoda:
Wow! I totally want to buy that book! 
keegan:
The fucker is out, I already own a copy, maybe Canada isn't last to get everything 