The following conversation took place,last night at work. It involves me and my manager at work:
Him: First of all, you guys don't need to be up here, pissing and hollering about letting people off early tonight. I TOLD you guys on Friday this was going to happen, and now I hear you guys are up here crying about it!
Me: It was as stupid decision, period. We're looking at overtime now, we were looking at overtime when we had to let people go...I just don't understand the rationelle in letting people go...all we're doing is pissing more people off.
Him: But I told you, you were standing right here...RIGHT HERE on Friday when I told you. WE HAVE TO LET HOURS GO TO MAKE OUR BUDGET, plain and simple.
Me: Well, our budget isn't working the way it should then(our budget is a computer screen that does all the calculations for upper management). Why then, are we sending 20 extra people down to the K Mod(another sectiona t work that's heavy heavy this week), and another 10 people to M1(a floor in our section)...and we're still not going to make our hour call?
Him: We got to do what we got to do to make budget
Me: We WON"T make budget, you just put over 150 people on overtime, when we only cut 60 hours out. How's is that going to make budget?(I was getting more and more irate at this point)
Him: I told you on Friday we was going to do this, so you need to stop bickering about it, and deal with it.
Me: Well, you don't have 20 people coming up to you, and complaining about it, do you? I'm dealing with that, I've been dealing with that, ever since you made us cut hours.
Him: Send them to me then, I don't care if people are pissed off.
Me: I guess that's where you and I differ then, because I do care. Come the ned of this week, people are going to be so pissed off, they're not going to want to come to work...and the people calling in sick is going to increase.
Him: So? I don't care.
Me: Well, I do care. We need those people here to get the job done in a reasonable time.
Him: But we're not making budget.
Me: I told you, budget doesn't work, regardless of what your boss tells you, and like you're telling me...it doesn't work.
Him: I guess I'm surprised, you and John were standing right there when I told you on Friday, I could see if we didn't tell you, but we did.
Me: It doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
Him: I'm not saying you do, but you need to do it. The past 3 months, we haven't made budget, and it's because of you guys.
Me: Leave him out of this(referring to the new lead I'm training), he's only been here for a few weeks, he has nothing to do with the budget for the last 3 months.
Him: I'm not blaming you guys! I just said we haven't made budget the past three months.
Me: Youjust stood right there, and told me that we haven't made budget becuase of me..you just said it.
Him: Welll, you guys haven't cut the hours like we needed.
Me: I cut hours when I can, but if we're not going to get done in 8 hours, and we're going to be forcing overtime on people, obviously I'm not going to cut hours.
Him: You should have.
Me: How can you say that? We would have been in overtime everyday if I did that, we STILL wouldn't make our budget, and all that would happen is you would strip everyone's motivation on a daily basis.
Him: If that's what we need to do, we need to do it.
Me: Welll, then I tell you what, you do the cutting of hours, and you can deal with the anger that's being generated.
Him: Hold on, that's not what I'm saying.
Me: You blamed me for not making you budget, now you can take the blame yourself if you think I do such a bad job at it.
Him: I didn't say you did a bad job, you guys do great at what you do.
Me: Well, i guess I'm getting mixed messages then, cause that's not what i just heard.
And so on an so forth. My boss is cool, and I usually get along great with him. Generally, we work on the same page-but my guess is, his getting his ass chewed by his bosses, as I will get my ass chewed because I'm a boss lower than him.
So yeah, great fucking day yesterday-and now I have to look forward to this fucking shit the rest of the fucking week. I can hardly wait...
Fuck it, I may demote myself soon...I hate this management bull fucking shit
Him: First of all, you guys don't need to be up here, pissing and hollering about letting people off early tonight. I TOLD you guys on Friday this was going to happen, and now I hear you guys are up here crying about it!
Me: It was as stupid decision, period. We're looking at overtime now, we were looking at overtime when we had to let people go...I just don't understand the rationelle in letting people go...all we're doing is pissing more people off.
Him: But I told you, you were standing right here...RIGHT HERE on Friday when I told you. WE HAVE TO LET HOURS GO TO MAKE OUR BUDGET, plain and simple.
Me: Well, our budget isn't working the way it should then(our budget is a computer screen that does all the calculations for upper management). Why then, are we sending 20 extra people down to the K Mod(another sectiona t work that's heavy heavy this week), and another 10 people to M1(a floor in our section)...and we're still not going to make our hour call?
Him: We got to do what we got to do to make budget
Me: We WON"T make budget, you just put over 150 people on overtime, when we only cut 60 hours out. How's is that going to make budget?(I was getting more and more irate at this point)
Him: I told you on Friday we was going to do this, so you need to stop bickering about it, and deal with it.
Me: Well, you don't have 20 people coming up to you, and complaining about it, do you? I'm dealing with that, I've been dealing with that, ever since you made us cut hours.
Him: Send them to me then, I don't care if people are pissed off.
Me: I guess that's where you and I differ then, because I do care. Come the ned of this week, people are going to be so pissed off, they're not going to want to come to work...and the people calling in sick is going to increase.
Him: So? I don't care.
Me: Well, I do care. We need those people here to get the job done in a reasonable time.
Him: But we're not making budget.
Me: I told you, budget doesn't work, regardless of what your boss tells you, and like you're telling me...it doesn't work.
Him: I guess I'm surprised, you and John were standing right there when I told you on Friday, I could see if we didn't tell you, but we did.
Me: It doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
Him: I'm not saying you do, but you need to do it. The past 3 months, we haven't made budget, and it's because of you guys.
Me: Leave him out of this(referring to the new lead I'm training), he's only been here for a few weeks, he has nothing to do with the budget for the last 3 months.
Him: I'm not blaming you guys! I just said we haven't made budget the past three months.
Me: Youjust stood right there, and told me that we haven't made budget becuase of me..you just said it.
Him: Welll, you guys haven't cut the hours like we needed.
Me: I cut hours when I can, but if we're not going to get done in 8 hours, and we're going to be forcing overtime on people, obviously I'm not going to cut hours.
Him: You should have.
Me: How can you say that? We would have been in overtime everyday if I did that, we STILL wouldn't make our budget, and all that would happen is you would strip everyone's motivation on a daily basis.
Him: If that's what we need to do, we need to do it.
Me: Welll, then I tell you what, you do the cutting of hours, and you can deal with the anger that's being generated.
Him: Hold on, that's not what I'm saying.
Me: You blamed me for not making you budget, now you can take the blame yourself if you think I do such a bad job at it.
Him: I didn't say you did a bad job, you guys do great at what you do.
Me: Well, i guess I'm getting mixed messages then, cause that's not what i just heard.
And so on an so forth. My boss is cool, and I usually get along great with him. Generally, we work on the same page-but my guess is, his getting his ass chewed by his bosses, as I will get my ass chewed because I'm a boss lower than him.
So yeah, great fucking day yesterday-and now I have to look forward to this fucking shit the rest of the fucking week. I can hardly wait...
Fuck it, I may demote myself soon...I hate this management bull fucking shit