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Oi, mate!!! Halloween was yesterday! *Sigh* Halloween: The mundanes chance to be Goth-for-a-day. A chance for them to dress like you, and tell you just how like you they are! A chance for them to get all gothed-up....
*Sigh* Goth has, or rather had, a certain dignity and decorum, particularly in its aesthetics: what ever these costumes bring to these tiresome people is a plane-trip away from either. Getting gothed-up? WTF? For them to announce that they will be getting all gothed-up on the sanctioned-spooky-day and turn out as they do is, quite frankly, insulting. Kids I can excuse, adults well perhaps its just a day of turning-the-tables where I get to belly-laugh at them.
On every other day of the year it seems anyone forced to have to deal with me seems to feel they have to adopt the guise of goth for successful communication. On this... special day, do they feel they have suddenly opened some new channel of discourse with their masquerade? Do they really think their IS something that alien about being a part of a once-obscure sub-culture? *Sigh*And to think in the past Ive been accused of taking it all too seriously!!! *Sigh*
Really, there's nothing more annoying to a burgeoning goth elitist than seeing his subculture co-opted by the mainstream and turned into a novelty, or even worse, a joke.
Yes, quite, but to be honest with you and paraphrase the ossified Obi-Wan from the film where New and Hope actually had relevance, I dont so much blame the fool as the fools that follow him! It is ironic that the icon most mundanes associate with goth (Marilyn Manson if your not following) is the very person likely to clear the goth dour-dancefloor quicker than a burst of sunlight! [Perhaps I should note here that Marilyn Manson has never had much credability with the UK/European goth scene, where his music is considered more more to be 'metal'--anathema to many Euro goths, but that he is much more accepted in the US.]
Don't get me wrong: I do give Antichrist Superstar a spin every now and then, and thoroughly enjoy it, but it's not goth. Nor are the bloody Bee Gees, but that dosn't stop me giving them an airing ever now and again either! I have enough self-assurance in my self-identity that I don't have to make everything I like 'goth' in fear that if I don't I won't be 'goth' enough.
What some goths, 'antiquated' goths if you like, object to is that the sub-culture they once felt apart of has been hijacked--in some cases by the very people that once ridiculed it.
IN HIS SOON-to-be-released memoir, The Long Hard Road Out of Hell, our 48th president, Marilyn Manson [
], recounts a recent meeting with his earthly idol, Anton LaVey, founder of the Church of Satan.
Bare in mind that that article is from 96, so the word r-e-c-e-n-t is only appropriate if you dont read or get out much and, as you can see here, LaVey was a popular man at that time. He died bankrupt a year later and the actual Church of Satan soon followed him, although it does still retain a farcical web-presence. Doesnt that splash-screen logo just make to want to go out and be... e-v-i-l-!-!-!
*Sigh* Goth, that post-punk dead bloom, never did have anything to do with Satanism and I have grown so tired of saying it that I usually just smile inanely when the clueless yap on about Lucifer as if hes witnessed to be wearing pikes and a mesh shirt and singing Bela Lugosis Dead.
One bit of interesting trivia for you though is that for many of LaVeys 'worshippers', his bellicose, elitist and rather trashy philosophy was/is a springboard to the more grown-up but equally belligerent philosophy one Friedrich Nietzsche.... Im not sure if thats progress are not, he says with tongue very firmly in cheek!
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Oi, mate!!! Halloween was yesterday! *Sigh* Halloween: The mundanes chance to be Goth-for-a-day. A chance for them to dress like you, and tell you just how like you they are! A chance for them to get all gothed-up....
*Sigh* Goth has, or rather had, a certain dignity and decorum, particularly in its aesthetics: what ever these costumes bring to these tiresome people is a plane-trip away from either. Getting gothed-up? WTF? For them to announce that they will be getting all gothed-up on the sanctioned-spooky-day and turn out as they do is, quite frankly, insulting. Kids I can excuse, adults well perhaps its just a day of turning-the-tables where I get to belly-laugh at them.
On every other day of the year it seems anyone forced to have to deal with me seems to feel they have to adopt the guise of goth for successful communication. On this... special day, do they feel they have suddenly opened some new channel of discourse with their masquerade? Do they really think their IS something that alien about being a part of a once-obscure sub-culture? *Sigh*And to think in the past Ive been accused of taking it all too seriously!!! *Sigh*
Really, there's nothing more annoying to a burgeoning goth elitist than seeing his subculture co-opted by the mainstream and turned into a novelty, or even worse, a joke.
Yes, quite, but to be honest with you and paraphrase the ossified Obi-Wan from the film where New and Hope actually had relevance, I dont so much blame the fool as the fools that follow him! It is ironic that the icon most mundanes associate with goth (Marilyn Manson if your not following) is the very person likely to clear the goth dour-dancefloor quicker than a burst of sunlight! [Perhaps I should note here that Marilyn Manson has never had much credability with the UK/European goth scene, where his music is considered more more to be 'metal'--anathema to many Euro goths, but that he is much more accepted in the US.]
Don't get me wrong: I do give Antichrist Superstar a spin every now and then, and thoroughly enjoy it, but it's not goth. Nor are the bloody Bee Gees, but that dosn't stop me giving them an airing ever now and again either! I have enough self-assurance in my self-identity that I don't have to make everything I like 'goth' in fear that if I don't I won't be 'goth' enough.
What some goths, 'antiquated' goths if you like, object to is that the sub-culture they once felt apart of has been hijacked--in some cases by the very people that once ridiculed it.
IN HIS SOON-to-be-released memoir, The Long Hard Road Out of Hell, our 48th president, Marilyn Manson [
], recounts a recent meeting with his earthly idol, Anton LaVey, founder of the Church of Satan.
Bare in mind that that article is from 96, so the word r-e-c-e-n-t is only appropriate if you dont read or get out much and, as you can see here, LaVey was a popular man at that time. He died bankrupt a year later and the actual Church of Satan soon followed him, although it does still retain a farcical web-presence. Doesnt that splash-screen logo just make to want to go out and be... e-v-i-l-!-!-!
*Sigh* Goth, that post-punk dead bloom, never did have anything to do with Satanism and I have grown so tired of saying it that I usually just smile inanely when the clueless yap on about Lucifer as if hes witnessed to be wearing pikes and a mesh shirt and singing Bela Lugosis Dead.
One bit of interesting trivia for you though is that for many of LaVeys 'worshippers', his bellicose, elitist and rather trashy philosophy was/is a springboard to the more grown-up but equally belligerent philosophy one Friedrich Nietzsche.... Im not sure if thats progress are not, he says with tongue very firmly in cheek!
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