Astrology case study: Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton...
Born June 4, 1975 and August 4, 1955
I know they're through, but what was it that made them so crazy for eachother? The public displays of affection. The complementary tattoos and matching vials of blood. The sex in their car on the way to public appearances. Most people just couldn't understood why they were so mad about eachother. This is, I believe, because most people have never experienced the type of connection that they had.
I felt compelled to look up their astrology... and I wasn't at all disappointed. I will now use astrology along with my own personal experiences to explain what they had. The thing that I most want to show is that astrology and ONLY astrology can explain their phenomenal obsession for eachother. Without ridiculously good astrological energy between them, what would motivate 25 year old Angelina, one of the most beautiful women in the world at the peak of her acting career, a woman who could have any man that she wanted, to marry a man 20 years older than her?
There is one aspect that I expected to see between them... an aspect that I have had personal experience with... and indeed it was there:
Billy Bob's Venus Trine Angelina's Mars
This is the best comparative aspect for sexual compatibility. There is likely to be a strong romantic attraction here, as well as a connection conducive to emotional and social compatibility. This is an excellent combination for romantic relationships and for marriage because of the high degree of both social and sexual compatibility.
The person that I have experienced this aspect with is also the person I've had the best sex of my life with... but it was more than that... there was also a very deep connection. I would have shared vials of blood with her if only she had asked. In a Billy Bob sort of way, she was my own personal Angelina Jolie... but there is much more to their chart than this one aspect. Their chart is off the chart so to speak. They have 21 positives and only 1 negative aspect! They have 15 trines, 4 sextiles, 2 conjunctions and only 1 negative square. This is the most positive comparison report that I've ever seen and I've seen quite a few (150+). Just read this full report. It details why they were so insanely madly in love with each other:
This comparative combination favors communication and intellectual friendships, and general cooperation. The ability to communicate enables you to resolve problem areas in the relationship.
This aspect denotes a rather energetic cooperation; you like to work together and get things done. It suggests a friendly competition or stimulation to action and achievement. It is an aspect helping romantic relations.
This aspect produces a cooperative attitude and generous friendship. You are likely to make excellent traveling companions. There is general philosophical agreement at many levels.
This is one of the finest comparative combinations for a successful romantic relationship or marriage. This is especially true when it is the man's Sun and woman's Moon, but the aspect is very positive and harmonious in either direction. This trine produces a receptivity to the energy and creative self-expression of the Sun. The Sun person tends to initiate action and take the leadership role in the relationship (explaining why, in a traditional sense, it is preferable to have a 'his' Sun and 'her' Moon). The interaction between partners has a pleasant flow. The nature of the relationship tends to take on the flavor of the element (earth, fire, air or water) within which these bodies reside.
This aspect is good for communication about everyday practical affairs, especially those relating to business, work and domestic matters. There is an ability to communicate emotional matters. This is not an indicator of sexual attraction, but it does tend to improve romantic affairs.
This is one of the best combinations for a romantic attraction. You really enjoy each other's company. You are sexually attracted, and have a sympathetic, emotional harmony with each other. You enjoy an attitude of mutual consideration and kindness.
This is a favorable aspect enhancing cooperation in business, professional and domestic endeavors. The aspect denotes mutual involvement and getting along in any project that is at hand. The combination also contributes to sexual attraction, working in this regard best when it is 'her' Moon and 'his' Mars.
This is one of the best comparative aspects for mutual kindness, generosity, and helpfulness in all relationships. It is especially helpful for harmony in family and domestic relationships. Often there is a sharing of religious, social, and ethical values with respect to home and family affairs. In some cases, there may be psychic or intuitive link between the natives. You have cultural interests in common. This combination does not, of itself, indicate romantic or sexual attractions, but it does increase the durability and stability of such a relationship by providing shared cultural, educational, moral, and religious values and interests.
This aspect is good for communication about everyday practical affairs, especially those relating to business, work and domestic matters. There is an ability to communicate emotional matters. This is not an indicator of sexual attraction, but it does tend to improve romantic affairs.
This comparative combination often produces romantic attractions. You are emotionally sympathetic and understanding of each other. You have similar tastes in art, music, and social conduct.
This comparative combination has a way of creating sudden and exciting romantic attractions; few aspects are stronger in the sexual attraction department. There is a definite romantic fascination for each other, and if other signs in the chart are right it may last, but often it won't. At any rate, there is a lot of excitement and adventure in this combination.
This is a very active comparative combination showing mutual support and efforts toward mutual self-improvement and development. You are both ambitious and interested in improving your lives. There may be a strong sense of friendly competition in the relationship. The combination adds sexual attraction in a romantic relationship.
This is an aspect of mental compatibility. You work well together putting ideas into action. You enjoy games of mental challenge and competition. You have a mutual interest in politics and a fondness for debate. You stimulate each other's enthusiasm and resourcefulness.
This is the best comparative aspect for sexual compatibility. There is likely to be a strong romantic attraction here, as well as a connection conducive to emotional and social compatibility. This is an excellent combination for romantic relationships and for marriage because of the high degree of both social and sexual compatibility.
This comparative trine is favorable for mutual actions and accomplishments in a variety of areas. You tend to spur each other's drive and initiative without ego confrontations. Often encouragement is extended toward efforts of self-improvement through physical exercise, professional initiative, or business enterprise. This aspect also tends to generate sexual attraction.
This aspect denotes enjoyment in sharing outdoor activities, sports, and travel. It is a good combination for constructive, practical cooperation in family and domestic affairs. You are apt to encourage each other's efforts at physical, spiritual, or personal self-improvement. Jupiter tends to channel the energies of Mars into more constructive activity, while Mars has the effect of putting educational, philosophical, or religious goals into action.
This aspect endows the relationship with a very harmonious and mutually helpful color. Jupiter is very generous, benevolent, and optimistic toward the Sun, while the Sun provides much vitality, and encourages the Jupiter individual. In a romantic situation, this aspect produces cultural and spiritual values that give durability and lasting quality. You are apt to make excellent traveling companions.
This comparative aspect indicates you share many intellectual and philosophical interests. By itself, it does not produce romantic or sexual attractions, but in a romantic or marital relationship, it can improve communication and durability of the relationship. It tends to foster optimism and a constructive mental outlook in each other by encouraging each other to positive thinking.
This aspect denotes enjoyment in sharing outdoor activities, sports, and travel. It is a good combination for constructive, practical cooperation in family and domestic affairs. You are apt to encourage each other's efforts at physical, spiritual, or personal self-improvement. Jupiter tends to channel the energies of Mars into more constructive activity, while Mars has the effect of putting educational, philosophical, or religious goals into action.
This comparative aspect often indicates sexual attraction. Uranus supplies a great deal of interest and exciting in the relationship. Together you can have a large circle of friends, and you may use your home as a meeting place for social gatherings, organizations and unusual activities. You encourage each other to be more individualistic and creative and allow freedom of emotional expression.
This comparative combination leads to sudden, exciting, but unstable and short-lived romantic infatuations. It is often found in unlikely or unsuitable romantic attachments. Usually the lifestyle of the parties will be so different that lasting compatibility is not possible.
Well, let me just tell you that a report this positive is roughly about 1 out of 1,000 making Billy Bob and Angelina the first example of astrological soul mates that I've come across.
Angelina was quoted as saying "He's like my favorite person in the whole world" and she once broke down on a set "screaming about how much I wanted him." The primal scream wasn't an act. "It was a real deep connection, a deep marriage."
In 2000, Thornton told Us, "I was looking at her sleep, and I had to restrain myself from literally squeezing her to death. Sex for us is almost too much."
Do you understand his point of view? I do. I understand it because I have experienced some of the same aspects myself in my own sexual soul mate. When I was with her, food, sleep and everything else became over rated and unimportant. The lovemaking was pure, deep, soulful and beautiful. Passion and pleasure were off the scale. The staying power was intense. She once spoke of a couple that was found dead after spending a week locked up together. Apparently they had made love for several days without eating and drinking and both died in the act. Perhaps one died first and then the other committed suicide. I don't know. I never questioned the validity of the story because I understood that this was a possibility for her and I. The sex was almost too much. Billy Bob and Angelina understand this too.
OK, so why the breakup? Well, astrologically, there was that one negative square that says "lasting compatability is not possible"... but knowing that astrological energy has a cumulative affect, this one negative was very weak in the big picture. There was another positive aspect that also mentioned that the relationship would probably not last. From what I've learned, these aren't enough by themselves to break up a relationship.
Astrology can only show you what type of energy exists between people. What people do with that energy is another story. The one thing that can break up the best of positive energy relationships is an agenda. "They" had adopted a baby. Angelina's agenda on this was clear. Billy Bob's was not so clear.
In an interview, Jolie says not "one thing caused the problems [But] it's clear to me that our priorities shifted overnight".
"He started focusing on certain things, his music, and different films," "I started focusing on traveling a lot, and really wanted to, and knew Cambodia, and really wanted to adopt a child. Billy and I just became very different people, and that was before Maddox even came home. And, by the time Maddox came home, we were kind of living apart."
After all of her public passion for Thornton and having his name tattooed on her body Jolie says she and her ex-husband now have no contact at all.
Please notice that this is the full extent of her "lashing out" at Billy Bob. Neither one of them will ever be able to speak negatively about the other in public. Billy Bob burned the vials of blood in a small "marriage coffin" instead of returning them to Angelina as she requested. That was the full extent of his lashing out.
While some thought their relationship seemed extreme, Jolie says she simply wanted to make her husband happy.
"I wanted him to feel good. I believe that's something that you do. That's something a wife would do, for to or for her husband. And, and at the time I meant it. I thought he was amazing. And, now I just feel like I don't know him. We're not friends." she said.
I don't buy this downplaying of their relationship by Angelina for one second. I can see right through her words. Her behaviour wasn't just "something that you do for your husband". It was primal and motivated by the most amazing connection she has ever and probably will ever experience. To say that she doesn't know him is absurd. She knows him, maybe better than anyone. She sounds like she doesn't understand why he's pushing her away to me... or maybe she does. Perhaps she just didn't want to try to explain it to the press and a society who never understood or condoned their relationship from the start. She still thinks that he is amazing, their agendas have just gotten in the way. That's all. I understand this all too well from my own experiences.
Still, Jolie says she has no regrets about her marriage to Thornton. "I think you make mistakes, and you learn from them, and if you become a better person from those lessons learned, then that's good," she said.
Of course she has no regrets. I have no regrets either. My connection to my sexual soul mate opened my eyes to the next level of love making. Our connection is still entact even though we haven't seen eachother in over 6 months. We could pick back up again right where we left off, I'm certain of it. I suspect it might be the same way for Angelina and Billy... after certain realizations set in. Once you've had this type of connection with someone you tend to take on Dido's point of view and no longer believe in "the rules of it's over". This type of connection is too strong to ever truly be over.
As for me, I'm rooting for Billy Bob and Angelina. Society can kiss my ass. I will be watching them as they date others going forward. The worse thing that anyone can do is talk badly about the other in front of either of them. When it comes right down to it, they will defend each other. Stay tuned, this should be very interesting.
~~ Adam
PS. These two scored 19 points on my sexual passion indicator. It's the highest score I've seen so far.
Born June 4, 1975 and August 4, 1955
I know they're through, but what was it that made them so crazy for eachother? The public displays of affection. The complementary tattoos and matching vials of blood. The sex in their car on the way to public appearances. Most people just couldn't understood why they were so mad about eachother. This is, I believe, because most people have never experienced the type of connection that they had.
I felt compelled to look up their astrology... and I wasn't at all disappointed. I will now use astrology along with my own personal experiences to explain what they had. The thing that I most want to show is that astrology and ONLY astrology can explain their phenomenal obsession for eachother. Without ridiculously good astrological energy between them, what would motivate 25 year old Angelina, one of the most beautiful women in the world at the peak of her acting career, a woman who could have any man that she wanted, to marry a man 20 years older than her?
There is one aspect that I expected to see between them... an aspect that I have had personal experience with... and indeed it was there:
Billy Bob's Venus Trine Angelina's Mars
This is the best comparative aspect for sexual compatibility. There is likely to be a strong romantic attraction here, as well as a connection conducive to emotional and social compatibility. This is an excellent combination for romantic relationships and for marriage because of the high degree of both social and sexual compatibility.
The person that I have experienced this aspect with is also the person I've had the best sex of my life with... but it was more than that... there was also a very deep connection. I would have shared vials of blood with her if only she had asked. In a Billy Bob sort of way, she was my own personal Angelina Jolie... but there is much more to their chart than this one aspect. Their chart is off the chart so to speak. They have 21 positives and only 1 negative aspect! They have 15 trines, 4 sextiles, 2 conjunctions and only 1 negative square. This is the most positive comparison report that I've ever seen and I've seen quite a few (150+). Just read this full report. It details why they were so insanely madly in love with each other:
This comparative combination favors communication and intellectual friendships, and general cooperation. The ability to communicate enables you to resolve problem areas in the relationship.
This aspect denotes a rather energetic cooperation; you like to work together and get things done. It suggests a friendly competition or stimulation to action and achievement. It is an aspect helping romantic relations.
This aspect produces a cooperative attitude and generous friendship. You are likely to make excellent traveling companions. There is general philosophical agreement at many levels.
This is one of the finest comparative combinations for a successful romantic relationship or marriage. This is especially true when it is the man's Sun and woman's Moon, but the aspect is very positive and harmonious in either direction. This trine produces a receptivity to the energy and creative self-expression of the Sun. The Sun person tends to initiate action and take the leadership role in the relationship (explaining why, in a traditional sense, it is preferable to have a 'his' Sun and 'her' Moon). The interaction between partners has a pleasant flow. The nature of the relationship tends to take on the flavor of the element (earth, fire, air or water) within which these bodies reside.
This aspect is good for communication about everyday practical affairs, especially those relating to business, work and domestic matters. There is an ability to communicate emotional matters. This is not an indicator of sexual attraction, but it does tend to improve romantic affairs.
This is one of the best combinations for a romantic attraction. You really enjoy each other's company. You are sexually attracted, and have a sympathetic, emotional harmony with each other. You enjoy an attitude of mutual consideration and kindness.
This is a favorable aspect enhancing cooperation in business, professional and domestic endeavors. The aspect denotes mutual involvement and getting along in any project that is at hand. The combination also contributes to sexual attraction, working in this regard best when it is 'her' Moon and 'his' Mars.
This is one of the best comparative aspects for mutual kindness, generosity, and helpfulness in all relationships. It is especially helpful for harmony in family and domestic relationships. Often there is a sharing of religious, social, and ethical values with respect to home and family affairs. In some cases, there may be psychic or intuitive link between the natives. You have cultural interests in common. This combination does not, of itself, indicate romantic or sexual attractions, but it does increase the durability and stability of such a relationship by providing shared cultural, educational, moral, and religious values and interests.
This aspect is good for communication about everyday practical affairs, especially those relating to business, work and domestic matters. There is an ability to communicate emotional matters. This is not an indicator of sexual attraction, but it does tend to improve romantic affairs.
This comparative combination often produces romantic attractions. You are emotionally sympathetic and understanding of each other. You have similar tastes in art, music, and social conduct.
This comparative combination has a way of creating sudden and exciting romantic attractions; few aspects are stronger in the sexual attraction department. There is a definite romantic fascination for each other, and if other signs in the chart are right it may last, but often it won't. At any rate, there is a lot of excitement and adventure in this combination.
This is a very active comparative combination showing mutual support and efforts toward mutual self-improvement and development. You are both ambitious and interested in improving your lives. There may be a strong sense of friendly competition in the relationship. The combination adds sexual attraction in a romantic relationship.
This is an aspect of mental compatibility. You work well together putting ideas into action. You enjoy games of mental challenge and competition. You have a mutual interest in politics and a fondness for debate. You stimulate each other's enthusiasm and resourcefulness.
This is the best comparative aspect for sexual compatibility. There is likely to be a strong romantic attraction here, as well as a connection conducive to emotional and social compatibility. This is an excellent combination for romantic relationships and for marriage because of the high degree of both social and sexual compatibility.
This comparative trine is favorable for mutual actions and accomplishments in a variety of areas. You tend to spur each other's drive and initiative without ego confrontations. Often encouragement is extended toward efforts of self-improvement through physical exercise, professional initiative, or business enterprise. This aspect also tends to generate sexual attraction.
This aspect denotes enjoyment in sharing outdoor activities, sports, and travel. It is a good combination for constructive, practical cooperation in family and domestic affairs. You are apt to encourage each other's efforts at physical, spiritual, or personal self-improvement. Jupiter tends to channel the energies of Mars into more constructive activity, while Mars has the effect of putting educational, philosophical, or religious goals into action.
This aspect endows the relationship with a very harmonious and mutually helpful color. Jupiter is very generous, benevolent, and optimistic toward the Sun, while the Sun provides much vitality, and encourages the Jupiter individual. In a romantic situation, this aspect produces cultural and spiritual values that give durability and lasting quality. You are apt to make excellent traveling companions.
This comparative aspect indicates you share many intellectual and philosophical interests. By itself, it does not produce romantic or sexual attractions, but in a romantic or marital relationship, it can improve communication and durability of the relationship. It tends to foster optimism and a constructive mental outlook in each other by encouraging each other to positive thinking.
This aspect denotes enjoyment in sharing outdoor activities, sports, and travel. It is a good combination for constructive, practical cooperation in family and domestic affairs. You are apt to encourage each other's efforts at physical, spiritual, or personal self-improvement. Jupiter tends to channel the energies of Mars into more constructive activity, while Mars has the effect of putting educational, philosophical, or religious goals into action.
This comparative aspect often indicates sexual attraction. Uranus supplies a great deal of interest and exciting in the relationship. Together you can have a large circle of friends, and you may use your home as a meeting place for social gatherings, organizations and unusual activities. You encourage each other to be more individualistic and creative and allow freedom of emotional expression.
This comparative combination leads to sudden, exciting, but unstable and short-lived romantic infatuations. It is often found in unlikely or unsuitable romantic attachments. Usually the lifestyle of the parties will be so different that lasting compatibility is not possible.
Well, let me just tell you that a report this positive is roughly about 1 out of 1,000 making Billy Bob and Angelina the first example of astrological soul mates that I've come across.
Angelina was quoted as saying "He's like my favorite person in the whole world" and she once broke down on a set "screaming about how much I wanted him." The primal scream wasn't an act. "It was a real deep connection, a deep marriage."
In 2000, Thornton told Us, "I was looking at her sleep, and I had to restrain myself from literally squeezing her to death. Sex for us is almost too much."
Do you understand his point of view? I do. I understand it because I have experienced some of the same aspects myself in my own sexual soul mate. When I was with her, food, sleep and everything else became over rated and unimportant. The lovemaking was pure, deep, soulful and beautiful. Passion and pleasure were off the scale. The staying power was intense. She once spoke of a couple that was found dead after spending a week locked up together. Apparently they had made love for several days without eating and drinking and both died in the act. Perhaps one died first and then the other committed suicide. I don't know. I never questioned the validity of the story because I understood that this was a possibility for her and I. The sex was almost too much. Billy Bob and Angelina understand this too.
OK, so why the breakup? Well, astrologically, there was that one negative square that says "lasting compatability is not possible"... but knowing that astrological energy has a cumulative affect, this one negative was very weak in the big picture. There was another positive aspect that also mentioned that the relationship would probably not last. From what I've learned, these aren't enough by themselves to break up a relationship.
Astrology can only show you what type of energy exists between people. What people do with that energy is another story. The one thing that can break up the best of positive energy relationships is an agenda. "They" had adopted a baby. Angelina's agenda on this was clear. Billy Bob's was not so clear.
In an interview, Jolie says not "one thing caused the problems [But] it's clear to me that our priorities shifted overnight".
"He started focusing on certain things, his music, and different films," "I started focusing on traveling a lot, and really wanted to, and knew Cambodia, and really wanted to adopt a child. Billy and I just became very different people, and that was before Maddox even came home. And, by the time Maddox came home, we were kind of living apart."
After all of her public passion for Thornton and having his name tattooed on her body Jolie says she and her ex-husband now have no contact at all.
Please notice that this is the full extent of her "lashing out" at Billy Bob. Neither one of them will ever be able to speak negatively about the other in public. Billy Bob burned the vials of blood in a small "marriage coffin" instead of returning them to Angelina as she requested. That was the full extent of his lashing out.
While some thought their relationship seemed extreme, Jolie says she simply wanted to make her husband happy.
"I wanted him to feel good. I believe that's something that you do. That's something a wife would do, for to or for her husband. And, and at the time I meant it. I thought he was amazing. And, now I just feel like I don't know him. We're not friends." she said.
I don't buy this downplaying of their relationship by Angelina for one second. I can see right through her words. Her behaviour wasn't just "something that you do for your husband". It was primal and motivated by the most amazing connection she has ever and probably will ever experience. To say that she doesn't know him is absurd. She knows him, maybe better than anyone. She sounds like she doesn't understand why he's pushing her away to me... or maybe she does. Perhaps she just didn't want to try to explain it to the press and a society who never understood or condoned their relationship from the start. She still thinks that he is amazing, their agendas have just gotten in the way. That's all. I understand this all too well from my own experiences.
Still, Jolie says she has no regrets about her marriage to Thornton. "I think you make mistakes, and you learn from them, and if you become a better person from those lessons learned, then that's good," she said.
Of course she has no regrets. I have no regrets either. My connection to my sexual soul mate opened my eyes to the next level of love making. Our connection is still entact even though we haven't seen eachother in over 6 months. We could pick back up again right where we left off, I'm certain of it. I suspect it might be the same way for Angelina and Billy... after certain realizations set in. Once you've had this type of connection with someone you tend to take on Dido's point of view and no longer believe in "the rules of it's over". This type of connection is too strong to ever truly be over.
As for me, I'm rooting for Billy Bob and Angelina. Society can kiss my ass. I will be watching them as they date others going forward. The worse thing that anyone can do is talk badly about the other in front of either of them. When it comes right down to it, they will defend each other. Stay tuned, this should be very interesting.
~~ Adam
PS. These two scored 19 points on my sexual passion indicator. It's the highest score I've seen so far.