- commentary
- THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 13 2007 9:00 AM
Mythical Mexicans Are Scary
Submitted by FearTheReaper
Edited by FearTheReaper
Tags: Immigration, La Raza

The anti-immigrant movement has descended into madness. I know this because I have a relative who sends me the occasional anti-immigrant email. He knows I have a daily article here on SG and wants to keep me informed of the scary immigrant activities taking place in America. Previously he sent me an article on the NAFTA Superhighway. Upon further research I discovered that the Superhighway is entirely fictional.
The emails are flying back and forth between the anti-immigrant folks and they are scaring the shit out of each other. The latest one that came into my inbox has been forward to hundreds of people in the anti-immigrant revolution. They apparently believe it is real. I, on the other hand, thought it was completely insane and much like the NAFTA Superhighway, entirely fictional. The email is a real work of art.
Here is a *REAL INTERVIEW *with an illegal Mexican at a protest march in Texas.
Trying to reason with an Illegal Mexican.
This is good! Below is a good example of a discussion with a master of circular logic. Don't be logical, don't respect the truth or your adversary, just say what you think makes a new case when the previous case gets too difficult to defend. Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station on the streets of downtown Houston, May 1, 2006:
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Jim: Juan, I see that you and thousands of other protesters are marching in the streets to demonstrate for your cause. Exactly what is your cause and what do you expect to accomplish by this protest?
Juan: We want our rights. We will show you how powerful we are. We will bring Houston to its knees!
Jim: What rights?
Juan: Our right to live here legally. Our right to get all the benefits you get.
Jim: When did you come to the United States?
Juan: Six years ago. I crossed over the border at night with seven other friends.
At this point, I believe this could be a real interview. Juan came over, looking for work with some friends and now he is feeling the power one feels when involved in a large protest. Pretty standard stuff. Then the wheels come off.
Jim: Why did you come?
Juan: For work. I can earn as much in a month as I could in a year in
Mexico. Besides, I get free health care, our Mexican children can go to school free, if I lose my job I will get Welfare, and someday I will have the Social Security. Nothing like that in Mexico!
Wow. Juan suddenly started talking in right wing rhetoric bursts. He seems to have quite a bit of knowledge about how to scam the American system and is even excited about getting Social Security. Sadly, he has no access to Social Security because he has no Social Security number. But why shouldnt he be excited? He is actually right in the middle of transforming from a human being into a cartoon villain.
And note that Juan called his own children "Mexican children." That is what people do. In America, when we talk about our children, we say, "Have you met my American child, Billy?"
Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our immigration laws when you came?
Juan: No! Why should I feel bad? I have a right to be here. I have a right to amnesty I paid lots of money for my Social Security and Green Cards.
Jim: How did you acquire those documents?
Juan: From a guy in Dallas. He charged me a lot of money too.
Ha ha. Cartoon Juan, now you are speaking in classic joke form. That is weird, but VERY common among Mexicans.
Jim: Did you know that those documents were forged?
Juan: It is of no matter. I have a right to be here and work.
Jim: What is the "right" you speak of?
Juan: The right of all Aliens. It is found in your Constitution. Read it!
Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember it saying anything about rights for Aliens.
Juan: It is in that part where it says that all men have Alien rights, like the right to pursue happiness. I wasn't happy in Mexico, so I came here.
Jim: I think you are referring to the declaration of Independence and that document speaks to unalienable right
Not Alien rights.
Holy shit. Seriously? This is the best you have, you right wing lunatics? That joke was so bad it made me what to punch myself in the face for reading it.
Jim: Since you are demanding to become an American citizen, why then are you carrying a Mexican Flag?
Juan: Because I am Mexican.
Ah, yes. This is something that really enraged the anti-immigrant crowd. When immigrant rallies were held across the country, many in the crowd carried Mexican flags. It was outrageous! I havent seen anything like it since the St. Patricks Day parade in New York, with all those fucking Irish flags! Hey Paddy, its America, not Ireland!
Jim: But you said you want to be given amnesty
to become a US citizen.
Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is our country, a part of Mexico that you Gringos stole from us. We want it returned to its rightful owner.
Jim: Juan, you are standing in Texas. After wining the war with Mexico, Texas became a Republic, and later Texans voted to join the USA. It was not stolen from Mexico.
Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was stolen. So was California, New Mexico and Arizona. It is just like all the other stuff you Gringos steal, like oil and babies. You are a country of thieves.
Jim: Babies? You think we steal babies?
Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam and China. I see them all over the place. You let all these foreigners in, but try to keep us Mexicans out. How is this fair?
Sigh. At this point you just have to become sad for anyone who actually thinks this dialogue is real. Yes, the Mexicans want their land back. They dont want to just make a living wage and support their families. They are not concerned with making enough money to survive the month, but rather reclaiming land that was lost over a century ago. I cant tell you how many conversations I have had with Mexicans about the reclamation of Southern California. Our situation is very similar to the Israeli Palestinian conflict and the Balkan states of the former Yugoslavia.
Jim: So, you really don't want to become an American citizen then.
Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a right to live, work, and speak their native language wherever and whenever they please. That's another thing we demand. All signs and official documents should be in Spanish. Teachers must teach in Spanish. Soon, more people here in Houston will speak Spanish than English. It is our right!
Jim: If I were to cross over the border into Mexico without proper documentation, what rights would I have there?
Juan: None. You would probably go to jail, but that's different.
Jim: How is it different? You said everyone has the right to live wherever they please
Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land grabbing thieves. Now you want Mexico too? Mexico has its rights. You Gringos have no rights in Mexico. Why would you want to go there anyway? There is no free medical service, schools, or welfare there for foreigners such as you. You cannot even own land in my country. Stay in the country of your birth.
Cartoon Juan just needed to hit the free schools and welfare points again before he wrapped it up, just in case the reader had forgotten.
Jim: I can see that there is no way that we can agree on this issue. Thank you for your comments.
Juan: Viva Mexico!
Jim is obviously an unbiased reporter who takes his job seriously and argues with people in the street, rather than simply presenting their viewpoint. And Juan, God bless him, is only after the free things here in America. He certainly doesn't want to work. You never see a Mexican immigrant looking for work. And in addition, Juan is looking forward to some sort of revolution. What he does not care about is making enough money to survive. He is a cartoon that the anti-immigrant crowd believes is real.
Juan is what I like to call the mythical Mexican. They have created him out of fictional stories, far-away observations, rumors and paste. Fake Juan is quite scary because he wants to destroy our country. The Mexican villain taps into every fear artery that Americans care about. They include healthcare, schools, welfare, crime, sovereignty and even baby kidnapping. He is the ultimate example of the La Raza demon. At the end of the email, they request that we take action:
Pass this along to every American citizen in your address books and to every representative in the state and federal government. If you choose to remain uninvolved, do not be amazed when you no longer have a nation to call your own nor anything you have worked for left since it will be "redistributed" to the activists while you are so peacefully staying out of the "fray". Check history, it is full of nations/empires that disappeared when its citizens no longer held their core beliefs and values. One person CAN make a difference. One plus one plus one plus one plus one plus one
The battle for our secure borders and immigration laws that actually mean something, however, hasn't even begun.
If this ticks YOU off...PASS IT ON!
And they are passing it on. This email is being sent around the country to enraged citizens. Some of these people actually believe that La Raza is a revolutionary group that is planning a civil war in 2008, right here in Southern California.
The National Council of La Raza describes itself as the largest Latino civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States, but it caters to the radical Chicano movement that says California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas belong to Aztlan.
The takeover plan is referred to as the reconquista of the Western U.S. and it features ethnic cleansing of Americans, Europeans, Africans and Asians once the area is taken back and converted to Aztlan.
Ethnic cleansing. Yes, white Americans are speaking of ethic cleansing without a hint of irony. The information highway is here, feel the pride.
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- SUNDAY JULY 15 2007 4:00 PM
Michael Savage Thinks Immigration Activists Should be Put Into Captivity
Submitted by Subrosa
Edited by erin_broadley
Tags: Michael Savage, Immigration, Right-Wing Radio, I Can't Believe This Fucker Lives In San Francisco

Hee hee. Im just kidding yall. Right-wing shock idiot Michael Savage doesnt think that activists should be put into a poorly-reviewed torture porn opus. Rather, he wishes that certain activists who participated in a hunger strike for immigrant rights should die. Seriously.
Bay Area immigrant rights advocates say radio host Michael Savage should be fired for using hateful language when suggesting supporters of an immigration reform bill who fasted in San Francisco's Civic Center Plaza last week should starve to death.
During a July 5 broadcast of "The Savage Nation," his nationally syndicated talk show, Savage said, "I would say let them fast till they starve to death ... because then we won't have a problem about giving them green cards because they're illegal aliens."
Well, I know what youre thinking. Youre thinking that the protesters were probably a bunch of hippie San Francisco liberal pussies who want to open our borders and let a bunch of dirty Mexicans take our jobs. And if thats the case, fuck em for advocating amnesty. Let em starve. Am I right?
Well, no.
The immigrant students fasted to show support for the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act, which would make higher education or military service a part of the path to citizenship for young illegal immigrants. The DREAM Act was introduced in Congress in 2001 and most recently stalled in June as part of the Senate's hotly debated immigration reform bill.
In other words, they were arguing that young people who have marketable skills or prove their loyalty to America should have a shot at becoming citizens. How horrible!
Savage is just doing what he always does, of course. He stirs up controversy by advocating for the most vile and callous ideas, and by defending the indefensible. This isnt much different than anyone else who deals in shock. After all, no one has ever gone broke playing to stupid peoples baser instincts. That said, even among the vast intellectual wasteland that are the right-wing political radio smut-peddlers, Savage is one of a kind.
Here are a sampling of some of his more intelligent tidbits:
"The next time youre in your backyard grilling hot dogs, dont be surprised if your Korean neighbor is actually grilling his dog. Thats the way things are done in Korea.
"Youre the ones who did it. You liberals are the descendents of Adolf Hitler, only you dont know it. Youre the most dangerous people on planet Earth. I am your enemy. I am your worst nightmare. I will expose you. I know who you are and I know youre suicidal and Im going to expose you until this government acts finally to stop you. I am not kidding you. Im telling it as it is."
He called affirmative action "The Fairness for Dummies Act"
"We need another brave Senator, like McCarthy, whom history has proven to be a loyal patriot."
"I'm beginning to think that women should be denied the vote. Their hormones rage; they are too emotional."
Or how about some of his choicer thoughts on the tsunami disaster in 2004:
You could take the argument that it's God's will, it's too bad and let's move on. And then let others help them. They're not in our sphere of interest.
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You could argue, maybe this is God's hand, because some of their brethren struck Christian America. Maybe God speaks the truth but waits. Seeks the truth and waits.
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Many of the countries and the areas in these countries that were hit by these tidal waves were hotbeds of radical Islam. Why should we be helping them destroy us? ... I think what we're doing is feeding our own demise. ... I truthfully don't believe in foreign aid.
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We shouldn't be spending a nickel on this, as far as I'm concerned. ... I don't want one nickel of my money going over there. ... I am sick of being bled to death by every damn incident on the earth.
So clearly, hes a very classy guy. While advocating the death of peaceful activists is (amazingly) not the worst thing the guy has said, one would think that someone as allegedly pro-free speech as Savage would have a little bit more sympathy for folks who are exercising their constitutional rights. I guess those who chose to speak freely are only worthy of praise (or, in this case, life) if he agrees with their message. What else is new?
Of course at base, Savage is simply another hate-filled idiot intent on lowering the bar for civilized debate ever further that it already has been. Hes a parasite on our national dialogue, leeching off whatever shred of rationality and compassion may remain within it. And thats fine. Everyone has a part to play, I suppose. His part is legitimizing lunacy and hate.
Savages remarks arent getting the national ink that Imus did, so I doubt he has to worry about losing his job. But wouldnt it be nice if he had to worry about a pink slip not because of this idiocy but because people got fed up with this garbage and stopped listening?
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- TUESDAY JUNE 26 2007 7:00 PM
California Woman May Have Voted Herself Out Of The Country
Submitted by Uncognitive
Edited by erin_broadley
Tags: immigration

Remember way back in 2004, when everyone from Hunter S. Thompson to that annoying dude who fucked up Kashmir were urging Americans to vote?
Zoila Meyer, a single mother of four living in Adelanto, California, was one of over 122 million Americans who hopped on the representative democracy bandwagon that year. In fact, she took it a step further. Not only did she register to vote, she decided to run for Adelantos City Council, filing her candidacy papers only 10 days before the deadline.
She never expected to actually win a seat on the City Council, so in true American underdog tradition, Zolia wound up winning the election.
Her electoral victory must have surprised someone else as well, since shortly thereafter one of her family members went to the authorities and got to snitchin.
Zolia, who was originally born in Cuba and had been living in the United States since the age of one, might not actually be a US citizen. She just assumed she was a citizen, as many people who have been living in the United States since before they could talk might tend to do. This meant that when she cast her vote in the 2004 election, she was actually committing a felony.
Facing criminal charges, Zolia resigned from the Adelanto City Council only 10 weeks after taking office. She then applied to become a naturalized citizen, and struck a deal with the government. In 2006, Zolia pled guilty to the misdemeanor charge of fraudulent voting, paid a fine, and got probation. The fine citizens of Adelanto were thus spared having such a flagrant lawbreaker in their city government. Well, until the mayor and his wife were busted for stealing $20 grand from Little League fundraisers. Classy!
Just when you thought that was the happy ending, earlier this year the INS decided that Zolias guilty plea was enough reason to deport her. So now after being arrested (again), Zolia faces a court hearing in July to see if the horrible crime of voting will get her kicked out into Canada. That is, if shes not actually an American citizen. Apparently nobody really knows if she is one or not, due to the complexity of immigration laws. At least the INS got to handcuff her and make her post bail.
I feel safer already.
- news
- THURSDAY MAY 17 2007 8:00 PM
Conservatives Get A Piñata Style Beat Down
Submitted by FearTheReaper
Edited by Rahodeb
Tags: Immigration, Bush, Congress

The White House and some members of Congress have reached an agreement on immigration reform that would grant legal status to millions of people who have illegally crashed our party. Apparently lawmakers have been meeting secretly and only today revealed the fruit of their naughty bargaining.
The deal mandates increased border security and creates a new Z visa, which would put immigrants on track to get citizenship in 8 to 13 years. They would have to pay fees and a $5,000 fine and also return to their home country first. What could possibly be a problem in that scenario? Most immigrants have thousands of dollars lying around and would not at all be suspicious of leaving and coming back.
The plan would create an immigration system based on skills, education levels and job experience. The current system emphasizes family ties. Low-skilled immigrants would be forced to return home after two years in the US. They could renew their visas twice, but would have to leave for a year in between. If they wanted to become citizens they could apply for a green card under a point system.
One big reason to reject the plan is that Bush supports it. Everything he touches turns to shit and this would be no different.
President Bush said the proposal would "help enforce our borders but equally importantly, it'll treat people with respect. This is a bill where people who live here in our country will be treated without amnesty but without animosity.
Liberals and conservatives came out against the reform plan. Liberals say the proposal is unworkable and unfair, while conservatives are losing their minds over the idea of amnesty. Take a look at what the kids on the Free Republic website are saying.
dEPORT tHE pRESIDENT aND cLOSE tHE bORDERS.
Interesting idea. We're going to table it.
Hail it all you want Mr. President you just lost a lot of my support. What an absolute disgust with all politicians. Cant trust those who your supposed to have confidence in.
Nor can you trust grammar, apparently.
High-tech employment? Show me how many of the 12 million could even work in high-tech. Get rid of the idea of being born here makes a person a citizen. The 14th ammendment that states that was only for the black slaves, not immagrants.
Note: I, FearTheReaper, hate "immagrants" too.
Good Lord, how many more do they intend to bring into the country? Isn't 30-50 million enough for them? The sorry bast*rds. They're traitors to America/Americans. I hope they rot in hell.
30-50 million is a big difference. That's a twenty million spread. I'm going to need you to pick an exact exaggeration.
Im done with him on this and many other issues. Ill never vote for him again. Illegal invaders are going to kill us all.
I pretty sure this guy is talking about the Visogoths, in which case he should be on another forum.
Si, claro que si, el guapo presidente.
Somebody whipped out the mother fucking translator! BAM!
Im startin to get on board with the impeachment folks. Treason is the reason.
They finally get around to talking about impeachment and its over immigration. Gotta love the conservatives.
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- MONDAY APRIL 23 2007 12:00 PM
Mayor McDreamy Pledges to Keep San Francisco Open for Undocumented Immigrants
Submitted by Subrosa
Edited by erin_broadley
Tags: San Francisco, Immigration, Newsom

In our never-ending quest to ensure that San Francisco remains ahead of Massachusetts on wingnut talk radios list of Evil Liberal Areas Wherein Everyone Will Soon Explode From Sheer Lack of Moral Fiber, Mayor/gay rights icon/philanderer/matinee idol/Democratic wunderkind Gavin Newsom went out of his way this weekend to let everyone know that illegal aliens are a-OK in the Baghdad by the Bay.
The mayor cannot stop federal authorities from making arrests, Newsom told about 300 mostly Latino members of St. Peter's Church and other religious groups supporting immigrants. But no San Francisco employee will help with immigration enforcement.
"I will not allow any of my department heads or anyone associated with this city to cooperate in any way shape or form with these raids," Newsom declared. "We are a sanctuary city, make no mistake about it."
Suck it, Massholes! You may have had legal gay marriage and universal health care before us, but were not backing down without a fight. Oh, and were also banning plastic bags. Ill bet you didnt even think of that shit. You can take your clam chowdah and your Hahvahd Yahd and shove it.
Returning to Newsoms announcement, the border freaks out there need not worry too much. Newsoms pledge is both a renewal of a 1989 Board of Supervisors action and a statement with little legal effect. Newsom may be able to discourage federal raids on suspected undocumented immigrants San Francisco, but he cant necessarily stop them. So why make the announcement?
Well, for one its good politics in an election year. Newsom is a political genius at sewing up blocks of voters who may not be his "natural" base. However, in addition to the standard election-cycle pandering, theres a bigger reason why this issue is making news in this area: the INS have been freaking the fuck out of people lately.
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials have since May 2006 conducted raids across the country, including arrests in San Rafael, Oakland, Richmond, San Pablo, Santa Clara and other cities across the Bay area. Immigration officials have said they were executing arrest warrants for immigrants who had committed crimes or were in the country illegally and had ignored final deportation orders.
In the course of serving deportation warrants, the officials said, other people whom officers suspected of being illegal immigrants were questioned and then arrested. Of at least 65 Marin County residents arrested in March, for example, just five had been ordered deported.
The raids, many of which conducted at private homes before dawn and some of which caught up legal immigrants and even citizens, have created an uproar in the Bay Area. Politicians and community leaders have demanded they end, saying some immigrants parents are now afraid to send their children to school or leave home.
But why should people be upset about being questioned by the Feds? I mean, if theyre legal then they should have nothing to hide, right?
Porfirio Quintano was one of those who pleaded with Newsom, Senator Carole Migden and Assemblyman Mark Leno during Sunday's meeting to do what they can to make San Francisco safe for immigrants.
The 42-year-old immigrant from Honduras said his Richmond home was raided in 2003 by federal immigration agents based on what turned out to be bad information.
"We are victims," said Quintano, adding that his wife and two daughters, then ages 4 and 10, live in fear of another raid, even though they are in the country legally. "They were looking for somebody unrelated to us, but they lined us up against the wall and held us for an hour. It was terrifying, especially for our daughters."
Sounds like a party. Seeing as the INS is often set off on these raids by tips fed to them by state or local authorities, San Franciscos policy is a reasonable one and designed to minimize this sort of blatant bullying and xenophobia. The City cant stop the Feds from enforcing their draconian and illogical immigration policy, but that doesnt mean we have to help them do it.
Subrosa thinks the plastic bag ban is quite silly. Really.
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- THURSDAY APRIL 5 2007 11:00 PM
Bill OReillys Head Finally Explodes
Submitted by FearTheReaper
Edited by FearTheReaper
Tags: Bill O'Reilly, Geraldo, Immigration
It finally happened. Bill OReillys head exploded today on the air. It was bound to happen, although nobody expected it to occur during an ugly exchange with Geraldo. The two met today on The Factor to discuss a drunk driving-illegal immigrant case that Bill has been pounding his chest over.
On Friday night in Virginia Beach, two teenage girls were killed when a drunk driver hit their car. The driver, Alfredo Ramos, is an illegal immigrant who had previously been arrested for driving while intoxicated. OReilly believes Ramos should have been deported after the first conviction and plans on making an example out of Virginia Beach. He is on a crusade to get the Mayor removed from office.
The Virginia Beach police chief says his officers only question immigration status when there is a felony involved, otherwise it is a federal matter. OReilly also said the governor is doing nothing about immigration. The governor also responded that immigration is supposed to he handled at the federal level.
The father of one of the deceased girls said OReilly turning this into an immigration issue loses the focus that the girls were killed by a man that police said was driving drunk.
So, today Geraldo came on The Factor and he had a different opinion than crazy Bill. Bill no likey when people dont agree with him.
Okay, that is a lunatic. How much rage can one man have inside him? He seriously looks like he is going to hit Geraldo at one point. Its called Wellbutrin, Bill.
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- TUESDAY APRIL 3 2007 6:00 PM
Newt Gingrich is Still an Asshole
Submitted by Subrosa
Edited by erin_broadley
Tags: Gingrich, bilingual education, voting, ballots, citizenship, immigration

Former Speaker of the House, habitual adulterer, general fuckwit and (naturally) possible GOP presidential candidate is at it again. You may remember Newt from the time he said this:
The idea that a congressman would be tainted by accepting money from private industry or private sources is essentially a socialist argument.
Or the time he vomited out this nugget of civic wisdom:
A mere forty years ago, beach volleyball was just beginning. No bureaucrat would have invented it, and that's what freedom is all about.
You might also remember him from that time he told his first wife he wanted a divorce while she was recovering from cancer surgery. Im sure you remember him. Like your first venereal disease, hes kind of hard to forget.
Well the hits, they just keep a-coming. This time, hes trying to stir up predictable xenophobic sentiment by bashing bilingual education efforts.
"The government should quit mandating that various documents be printed in any one of 700 languages depending on who randomly shows up" to vote, said Gingrich, who is considering seeking the Republican presidential nomination in 2008. He made the comments in a speech to the National Federation of Republican Women.
"The American people believe English should be the official language of the government. ... We should replace bilingual education with immersion in English so people learn the common language of the country and they learn the language of prosperity, not the language of living in a ghetto," Gingrich said to cheers from the crowd of more than 100.
"Citizenship requires passing a test on American history in English. If that's true, then we do not have to create ballots in any language except English," he said.
Ok. For the moment, lets set aside the extremely offensive insinuation that if you dont speak English youre automatically living on skid row. Instead, let us analyze his equally asinine comparison of the American history test to a ballot. The US Citizenship and Immigration Services Department publishes some sample questions on their website. For now, we'll also ignore the fact that non-English speakers who are born in this country dont have to take this test and lets take a gander at some of these brainteasers shall we?
10. Independence Day celebrates independence from whom?
11. What country did we fight during the Revolutionary War?
12. Who was the first president of the United States?
13. Who is the President of the United States today?
14. Who is the Vice President of the United States today?
15. Who elects the President of the United States?
16. Who becomes President if the President dies?
17. What is the Constitution?
18. What do we call changes to the Constitution?
Yikes. Not exactly the college boards. Also please take note that while the answers were meant to be relatively simple, short and easy, the actual questions themselves are exceptionally simple, short and easy. So while its true that citizenship requires you to know some basic English in the context of American history, were not exactly requiring you to have an advanced degree in the King's English.
So how does that compare to your typical ballot? Not quite the same simplicity. The two aren't remotely comparable in the level of English fluency required. This is, of course, where Newt's predictably simple-minded comparison predictably fails. And spectacularly so.
Ballots, ballot summaries and other official documents are printed in many languages to ensure that the decisions our citizens make are as well-informed as possible. The ability to make those informed choices should not be infringed upon simply because Newts got a bug up his ass about getting distracted by squiggly lines on the Mandarin ballot. Its not just about coddling people who dont speak English very well, its about making sure your electorate has all the tools necessary to vote intelligently.
Of course, if were voting intelligently were certainly not voting for Newt. So I guess it makes sense why he wouldn't be in favor of something like that.
When Subrosa was in high school, he weighed 127 pounds, had long hippie hair, listened to awful wanky guitar-rock and had a big Newt Free Zone sign in the back window of his gray 1980 Toyota Celica hatchback. Subrosa also never got laid in that car. Ever.
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- THURSDAY FEBRUARY 22 2007 6:00 PM
Catching Fake Immigrants For Attention
Submitted by FearTheReaper
Edited by erin_broadley
Tags: College Republicans, NYU, Immigration

You can always count on those rascal-like College Republicans to do something offensive in a desperate attempt to get attention. This time its the NYU branch of daddys party that wants America to know they exist. And it seems to have worked.
The zany Republicans have held contest called, "Find the Illegal Immigrant." Its a brilliant game full of strategy and intrigue in which a student poses as an immigrant by wearing a name tag, while other students pose as INS agents, also by wearing name tags. Then they try to find the immigrant! Clever, exciting and not at all retarded!
College Republicans president Sarah Chambers claims the contest was created to bring attention to the issue of illegal immigration.
"The event will open up both vocally and physically the issue of illegal immigration," she said. "That it's not right to come here illegally while others are waiting to come here legally and receive free health care and jobs that undercut wages of American workers and people that are living here legally."
I love a group that physically opens up the issue of illegal immigration, whatever the fuck that means. Open the shit out of it, you crazy College Republican.
"The goal here is to get people talking about it," said Chambers.
Fuck yeah it is. Let me start. Youve come up with an idiotic idea that will only offend the overly sensitive because youre a dumb cunt who is totally distanced from reality. Your turn. No? Oh, I thought we were starting an intellectual debate by being stupidly offensive.
Instead of mocking the young, rich kids for their idiotic idea, other students pursued the most predictable path and took to the streets in protest! Many student groups, such as ACLU at NYU, the College Democrats and other multicultural clubs, came together to protest the racist event.
Protesters carried signs and handed out pamphlets that stated, "No one is illegal. Really, what about murderers? Rapists? One organizer pushed for a silent protest. No idea whether or not that came off and we will probably never know.
The national news media swarmed onto NYU's campus yesterday and the story made headlines nationwide, including coverage on CNN, Fox News, NPR and talk radio.
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- SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 30 2006 4:00 PM
Senate to Fence in Mexico
Submitted by legionnaire
Edited by legionnaire
Tags: Senate, immigration, Mexico
Is it just me, or do our Congressional representatives seem to take a hell of a lot more vacation than the rest the country? In the mad dash to get something accomplished before yet another break in this year's session of Congress (and score a few political points with base voters before the midterm elections) the Senate overwhelmingly voted in favor of a bill that approves construction of a 700 mile long fence between the US and Mexico.
The Senate vote, 80 to 19, came as lawmakers finished a batch of legislation before heading home to campaign. It sent the fence measure to President Bush, who has promised to sign it despite his earlier push for a more comprehensive approach that could lead to citizenship for some who are in the country illegally.
House Republicans, fearing a voter backlash, had opposed any approach that smacked of amnesty and chose instead to focus on border security in advance of the elections, passing the fence bill earlier this month. With time running out, the Senate acquiesced despite its bipartisan passage of a broader bill in May.
I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with the midterm elections coming up. Right. With scandals abounding, the government still expanding, federal spending on the rise, ties between the GOP leadership and Jack Abramoff still fresh on people's minds, the return of hurricane season stirring up not-so-pleasant memories of FEMA's performance during hurricane Katrina, the GOP needs to do something to convince conservatives they can get something done and are still, well conservative.
Not everyone in the Senate thinks it's the greatest idea, however.
Some Democrats ridiculed the fence idea and said a broader approach was the only way to halt the influx. You dont have to be a law enforcement or engineering expert to know that a 700-mile fence on a 2,000-mile border makes no sense, said Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate. Nevertheless, more than 20 Democrats moved behind the measure.
Point well taken - that's a huge border. However, unlike some of my other progressive contemporaries, I actually don't fundamentally oppose the idea of a little more border control between the US and its neighbors. It would only seem prudent to try and at least monitor who is coming in and out of the country for security purposes, and also to try and get a better handle on just how many people pass the border each day. Plus, having the government in charge presents a better face to the rest of the world than just letting a bunch of vigilante psychos all juiced up after watching Red Dawn like the Minutemen try to pretend like they're the ones controlling the border.
However, the real problem isn't the construction of the fence, but the fact that the GOP and its candidates are virtually guaranteed to claim that having it there is a simple, band-aid solution to the very complex problem of illegal immigration. Even if the fence does limit the number of migrants crossing the border it doesn't help the farmers who depend on seasonal migrant labor who won't have enough pickers for their crops to harvest them. Nor will a fence change anything about the status of the millions of illegal immigrants currently resising in the US. Or the economic conditions abroad that offer laborers the stark choice of either not working or coming to the US illegally to find a decent, paying job.
Don't expect this Congress (or really any future ones) to realistically address any of these concerns. Projects like a giant fence are easy to point to and say they represent progress, but actual solutions take time, money and understanding that may be beyond the capacity of our nation's leaders to implement.
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- THURSDAY JULY 20 2006 4:00 PM
Judge Criticized For Helping Lovers
Submitted by FearTheReaper
Edited by FearTheReaper
Judge Pro Tem Bruce R. Fink of the Los Angeles Superior Court is in trouble for simply attempting to help two wayward lovers. Aurora Gonzalez was looking for a restraining order against her husband of six years, Francisco Salgado. She claimed Salgado was "verbally and emotionally abusive" to both her and their children. Gonzalez said Salgado called her a derogatory term and threatened to call immigration authorities. The case was heard in court last week.
Luckily the case was heard by substitute Judge Bruce Cupid Fink. Bruce listened and knew in a heartbeat what was going on.
He said he thought the couple "obviously wanted to get back together."
Clearly. Why else would she be in court seeking restraining order? Is there a better way to say, I want you inside me? I submit to you there is not. Fink didnt want to grant a restraining order because it would keep them apart for almost a year. This is exactly the problem with restraining orders; they keep people apart.
Judge Fink then took the next logical step. He asked Gonzalez if she really was an illegal. She said yes. He took the appropriate action.
"I'm going to count to 20, and if you people have left this courtroom and disappeared, she isn't going to Mexico forthwith," Fink said, according to the court transcript. "One. Two. Three. Four. Five. Six. When I get to 20, she gets arrested and goes to Mexico."
He never got to twenty. Fink then dismissed the case because the plaintiff was running terrified down the courthouse steps. He explained the obvious.
What I saw was nothing more than some yelling and screaming between a husband and wife. I also saw that they really didn't want to not be together anymore.
If he had issued the restraining order, Fink said, "we'd wind up with exactly the opposite of what these people wanted." "The cure could be far worse than the illness.
Thanks for giving the anti-immigrant, anti-activist judge, right wing lunatics the greatest ammunition ever. And thanks for making me believe in love again.
- commentary
- WEDNESDAY JULY 5 2006 3:00 PM
So Long Guest Workers, Bring on the Minutemen!
Submitted by legionnaire
Edited by legionnaire
Tags: Bush, immigration
One of the most surprising moves taken by Bush this past year, as far as progressives could tell, was his significantly more moderate stance with respect to proposed changes in US immigration policy and enforcement of laws dealing with illegal immigrants. Bush's plan has been a "guest worker" program, along with some possibilities for amnesty for illegals currently residing in the US, provided they pass an English proficiency test. While some progressives worry that guest workers could just be legitimizing the creation of a permanent underclass, the departure from the xenophobic rhetoric that had surrounded the issue from the GOP was a refreshing change. Unfortunately for Bush, with his approval continuing to swirl down the toilet and House reps getting nervous about reelection, the more conservative wing of the party seems to have decided to tell him where he can stick his guest worker plan. It's time to start building walls!
Republicans both inside and outside the White House say Mr. Bush, who has long insisted on comprehensive reform, is now open to a so-called enforcement-first approach that would put new border security programs in place before creating a guest worker program or path to citizenship for people living in the United States illegally.
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"The willingness to consider a phased-in situation, that's a pretty big concession from where they were at," said Representative Tom Cole, Republican of Oklahoma, whose closeness to Mr. Bush dates to his days as a top Republican National Committee official. "It's a suggestion they are willing to negotiate."
In a sign of that willingness, the White House last week invited a leading conservative proponent of an enforcement-first bill, Representative Mike Pence, Republican of Indiana, to present his ideas to Mr. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney in the Oval Office.
What's the real difference here? Timing. Bush's original plan was one of those "big tent" proposals that was supposed to make everybody happy all at once; simultanously continuing the GOP courtship with the Hispanic vote while also throwing a bone or two to the militiamen who form the party's core. That idea no longer seems plausible, and apparently the party has come to the conclusion that the Hispanic vote can wait, it's time to keep the yokels happy. Here's Rep. Pence's plan in a nutshell:
CAVUTO: How does your plan work?
PENCE: Well, its a very simple plan. We embrace, in whats come to be known as the Pence Plan, a comprehensive immigration reform that begins with what we passed in the House strong border security. In fact, my bill is nothing but border security and reinforcement for the first two years of implementation.
Admittedly the plan does eventually allow for some form of guest worker program. But it does seem preoccupied with the border security aspect of it first and foremost. And two years is plenty of time to keep pushing back promises of any sort of amnesty or path towards citizenship - keep the carrot out there to try and entice Hispanic voters to support the plan, but no delivery is required. A disappointment for sure, but not really a surprise.
- commentary
- SUNDAY JUNE 25 2006 10:00 PM
A New Solution to Immigration: Forced Labor!
Submitted by legionnaire
Edited by legionnaire
Tags: immigration, republican, labor, camp., Goldwater
Amidst the heated national debate currenty circulating around the topic of how to deal with illegal immigration, it's nice to know that there are plenty of options to choose from, like guest worker plans, deportations, a giant wall, amnesty, and now forced labor camps. That's right, Don Goldwater, nephew of the infamous 1964 presidential candidate Barry Goldwater who advocated the use of nuclear weapons in Vietnam, is running for governor of Arizona, with a plank in his platform consisting of putting illegal immigrants to work - just not the way they'd prefer.
Don Goldwater, nephew of the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, caused an international stir this week when EFE, a national news agency of Spain, quoted him as saying he wanted to hold undocumented immigrants in camps to use them "as labor in the construction of a wall and to clean the areas of the Arizona desert that they're polluting."
The article described Goldwater's plan as a "concentration camp" for migrants.
Goldwater, a candidate for governor in Arizona, said in a statement Friday that his comments were taken out of context. He said he was calling for a work program for convicted nonviolent felons, similar to "tried and tested, effective and accepted practices" used by state and local jails.
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Goldwater made a similar comment at an April anti-immigration rally.
"Build us that wall - now!" Goldwater said, referring to a proposal to add 700 miles of fences along the U.S.-Mexico border. He promised then that if elected, he would put illegal immigrants in a tent city on the border and use their labor to build the wall.
To be sure, Republicans are jumping down Goldwater's throat for his comments that don't really jibe with the GOP agenda that's trying so desperately to placate its newer Hispanic consitutency while still showing the tough guy image that keeps the hardliners coming to the voting booths. But Goldwater's candidacy is no joke, for someone with such a certifiably fringe position as creating "tent cities" for illegal immigrants to be put to work (curious how a mobile, unpaid labor force will be used to help preserve domestic jobs) he's the leading Republican in the race so far, though trailing behind Democratic incumbent Janet Napolitano by about 8 percentage points.
And while the rest of his platform contains some points that are more moderate and toe the party line a little more effectively, like actively prosecuting business owners who employ illegal immigrant labor and pushing municipalities to enforce laws they have on the books already about the subject, he's also a supporter of the "Minutemen" and other "civil defense forces," essentially groups of vigilantes seeking to establish border security on their own, with or without government sanction.
Future polling data following Goldwater's more public sentiments about stricter measures to be taken against illegal immigrants should be a useful measure to determine just how many people in Arizona, and possibly other border states feel similarly on this issue. While I think there is little chance that any of them will vote Democratic in the 2006 elections, Republicans still need to pay heed - an immigration policy not viewed as being decisive enough by these people could cause them not to vote at all, and that could cost them dearly in this election and in 2008. When these sorts of people make up your political base, that's the price you have to pay for not keeping them satisfied.
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- TUESDAY JUNE 20 2006 7:00 PM
Immigration Discussion Delay Could Signal GOP Weakness
Submitted by legionnaire
Edited by legionnaire
Tags: immigration, GOP, congress
The issue of how best to deal with illegal immigration in the US has come to a head quickly this year, with protests on both sides (but far more, and larger demonstrations in favor of some form of amensty or path to citizenship) and politicians scrambling to figure out a solution that could either galvanize key constituencies for the midterm elections or get them tossed out of office. It's a delicate balancing act, particulatly at the national political level, where the President and Senate have to juggle the competing interests of businesses that benefit from cheap migrant worker labor, legal voters whose families contain some living illegally, those who feel as if American jobs and services are being taken by illegal immigrants, and masses of supporters on both sides of the issue. At the congressional level, however, it's a very different fight. With smaller constituencies to satisfy, congressional representatives have much more pointed agendas, particularly those who represent districts within border states, and going along with a more moderate policy of compromise may not spell reelection for them this year. On that note, congressional leaders have tabled discussion on immigration until later on this summer, with the possibility that no new legislation will be submitted before election season in the fall.
The announcement was the clearest sign yet that House Republicans have largely given up on passing a broad rewrite of the nation's immigration laws before the November elections. House GOP leaders said today they would hold the hearings even before naming negotiators to work out a compromise between the House's get-tough approach on illegal immigration and the Senate measure that couples border security with a new pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the United States.
"I'm not putting any timeline on this thing, but I think we need this thing done right," said House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.).
Asked whether a deal could be struck with the Senate this fall, when lawmakers will be in the midst of a difficult reelection season, House Majority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) said, "I think that's possible. I don't know how likely it is."
Sounds like the wind has mysteriously fallen out of the sails of those in Congress who enjoy making bold statements about immigration including endorsing sending military troops to guard the border to prevent illegals from entering. Could it be that the impending national elections are making it hard to keep those sorts of statements alive while getting Republican senators reelected or increasing support for Bush?
House Republicans have long frowned upon the president's approach, passing instead a bill that would tighten border controls, clamp down on employers who hire undocumented workers and declare illegal immigrants and those who assist them to be felons. Their position solidified this month after a California special election to replace jailed former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R). Republican candidate Brian Bilbray won the seat, beating back a tough Democratic challenge by running hard against the president's approach.
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And the subject matter is likely to be volatile. Among possible topics, according to GOP aides: the decision by the Senate to allow undocumented workers to keep Social Security benefits earned while they worked in the country illegally; the assertion that under the Senate bill, illegal immigrants would be required to pay back taxes on only three of the last five years of tax liabilities to get on the path to citizenship; and the projection that the Senate plan could allow as many as 100 million new immigrants into the country over the next 20 years.
It's a dangerous line the house is trying to toe, and one that Democrats should take advantage of if they're smart (which means they probably won't, but that's another story for another time.) The Senate is looking for broad consensus, as is the president, in keeping with the GOPs fairly successful program to incorporate moderate and conservative hispanic voters in national elections. But that won't fly in Congress, where looking tough is the only way that many Republican border state reps have any chance of getting reelected. Democrats need to push for finishing draft legislation and a vote on this topic, and they need to keep it in the public consciousness that it is Republicans who are being obstructionists in dealing with an issue that people are clearly very concerned about, for purely political reasons.



